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Prostitution & Boyfriend

  • 10-04-2008 03:39PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi Guys,

    I posted earlier on about this situation but it must’ve gotten deleted. I’m very upset about it so I’ll keep it brief.
    My boyfriend of 6 months who I’m really crazy about last night after dinner mentioned that he’s been with a few
    Prostitutes. We were talking about traveling and swapping holiday stories when he said, really casually that the
    Red light district in Paris is way less seedy than any other one he’s been too. He was in Paris with all his mates
    For the rugby just before he met me. He said Amsterdam is by far the sleaziest. I just sat there in shock. I had no
    Idea that he’d been to a prostitute before never mind several!!

    I know it’s technically none of my business as it was before he met me but I feel cut up over this and don’t want him
    Anywhere near me. I keep picturing him banging some girl in a seedy red room then regailing his frinds with all the
    Sordid details in the pub later on….yeah lads, I did this to her and that to her..

    Please help me deal with this, girls would this bother you? Whether it’s right to let it affect me or wrong, the fact is it’s
    Tearing me apart so any kind words will be appreciated. I asked my friend in work and he said I’d be hard pushed to find
    A guy who hasn’t or wouldn’t sh*g a prostitute so I really should just suck it up kinda thing. This did not help. Thanks.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Sickandsad wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    I posted earlier on about this situation but it must’ve gotten deleted. I’m very upset about it so I’ll keep it brief.
    My boyfriend of 6 months who I’m really crazy about last night after dinner mentioned that he’s been with a few
    Prostitutes. We were talking about traveling and swapping holiday stories when he said, really casually that the
    Red light district in Paris is way less seedy than any other one he’s been too. He was in Paris with all his mates
    For the rugby just before he met me. He said Amsterdam is by far the sleaziest. I just sat there in shock. I had no
    Idea that he’d been to a prostitute before never mind several!!

    I know it’s technically none of my business as it was before he met me but I feel cut up over this and don’t want him
    Anywhere near me. I keep picturing him banging some girl in a seedy red room then regailing his frinds with all the
    Sordid details in the pub later on….yeah lads, I did this to her and that to her..

    Please help me deal with this, girls would this bother you? Whether it’s right to let it affect me or wrong, the fact is it’s
    Tearing me apart so any kind words will be appreciated. I asked my friend in work and he said I’d be hard pushed to find
    A guy who hasn’t or wouldn’t sh*g a prostitute so I really should just suck it up kinda thing. This did not help. Thanks.

    Yes, it would bother me.. I know if I told my bf I had been with male jiggalos (sp) on holidays he'd dump my ass there and then, why should it be different for fellas, I know people will say, 'but it's in the past', I just couldn't be with someone who would pay for sex, I would just immediately put them into a certain catagory... That's my personal opinion...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Wow, i can see this thread going completely pear-shaped so i will just say this....it doens't matter what other people feel OP.

    If it's getting to you this much then take some time to think about it and see if it is something you can get over.

    For what it is worth, i can't really see where you are coming from. If any girl i was going out with told me she had paid for sex at some point it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    As a girl I can totally empathise with you. It would bother me big time, I dont think I would ever be able to get over it. I know some people might not agree but for me it shows an inherent disrespect for women, not to mention himself and I find the thought of paying for sex disgusting and degrading. I have been with my boyfriend for three years now and love him dearly but if I found out something like this I would not be able to stay with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭c - 13


    Sickandsad wrote: »
    We were talking about traveling and swapping holiday stories when he said, really casually that the
    Red light district in Paris is way less seedy than any other one he’s been too. He was in Paris with all his mates
    For the rugby just before he met me. He said Amsterdam is by far the sleaziest. I just sat there in shock. I had no
    Idea that he’d been to a prostitute before never mind several!!

    Did he specifically say that he had sex with the prostitutes ? Its entirely possible he just went to the red light districts for a look and didnt do anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,931 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    I can empathise OP, I know how a partners past can bother people. It depends on the person. A lot on here will say 'the past doesn't matter, now get over it' but I know it takes time.

    If you love your BF enough, you will see past something that in all likelyhood he probably isn't that proud of, and will see what attracted you to him in the first place. Try writing out all your feelings, and then writing down how you'd feel if the tables were turned. It might make you think differently, if the roles were reversed and he was giving you the boot for the same thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    i have and most of my mates have. it's all part of growing up :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    c - 13 wrote: »
    Did he specifically say that he had sex with the prostitutes ? Its entirely possible he just went to the red light districts for a look and didnt do anything.

    Yeah most people would go for a look - its like a tourist attraction in Berlin. You better ask him before you dump him. If he did then by all means it warrants a dumping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭the GALL


    If it happened in the past well its in the past
    Is he like that now?
    well what's the problem?

    as for him showing an inherant disrespect for women he was probably drink/stoned egged on by his mates and when he got in there with her found it hard to 'rise to the occasion' pardon the expression and he still paid for the service .... now who took advantage of who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,931 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    kmick wrote: »
    Yeah most people would go for a look - its like a tourist attraction in Berlin. You better ask him before you dump him. If he did then by all means it warrants a dumping.

    In fairness, it doesn't really... he's the same guy now as he was when they met. I'd at least give him a chance to explain and see if they could work through it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭easyontheeye


    in fairness, it proves hes honest if he can be open about things like that....isnt that a good thing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Yes, he specifically said he was with prostitutes. He said it just matter of factly. I just feel so disgusted by him and I can't even look at him. The images in my head are unreal...what did he do with them, how many times, what was she wearing, was she better then me, will he do it again..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭seaner


    troll?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,931 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Doubt its a troll.
    Sickandsad wrote: »
    Yes, he specifically said he was with prostitutes. He said it just matter of factly. I just feel so disgusted by him and I can't even look at him. The images in my head are unreal...what did he do with them, how many times, what was she wearing, was she better then me, will he do it again..

    What did you say? And whats happened since?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Beerlao wrote: »
    i have and most of my mates have. it's all part of growing up :D

    I asked for kind words not gloating.

    It sounds like you still have a lot of growing up to do.

    You've probably never even had sex little boy, please don't post in my post again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Dragan wrote: »
    Wow, i can see this thread going completely pear-shaped so i will just say this....it doens't matter what other people feel OP.

    If it's getting to you this much then take some time to think about it and see if it is something you can get over.

    For what it is worth, i can't really see where you are coming from. If any girl i was going out with told me she had paid for sex at some point it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

    Yeah but girls don't really pay for sex, they don't have to and probably wouldn't anyway. Girls go on holiday and have fun and maybe score or even sleep with men but they don't go to a specific district to leer at men and pay them. It really is different.

    I have nothing against prostitution per-se, just the image of my bf with one makes me sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    HI OP

    I dont really see it as much of a problem. Everybody has a past and whatever he has done or whoever he has done in the past, should stay in the past. As long as you were not in a relationship together at the time.

    I admire his honesty with you and he obviously doesnt see it as much of an issue.

    Having a sexual history is normal for people in a relationship. Of course it is going to be difficult for you to imagine him with someone else, so maybe its best not to be talked about.



    Best of Luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Doubt its a troll.



    What did you say? And whats happened since?

    I didn't really say anything, I felt ill and kinda clammed up. We were in his car parked up listening to music, smoking and talking and I just asked him to take me home. I'm sure he knew I was upset but I didn't actually say I was. My mind was racing too much and needed time to let the information sink in. I just feel terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭c - 13


    Fair enough he traded up money for sex but this was all before he met you. As someone else pointed out he's still the same person as when he met you.

    Personally I dont think its very fair to drop him over something like this. I mean if thats the case should all the participants in a relationship have to fill out a questionaire to let their partner decide if theres anything in their past that they dont like ?

    Everyone does stuff in their life that other people dont agree with its as simple as that, and youve found one in his you dont agree with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    He was single and horny, whats the problem? would you rather he was a rapist or something, once he got no diseases and does not cheat on you with hookers i dont see the problem.

    would it be any different if he had slept with loads of free sluts?

    if he's good to you then leave it alone..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭the GALL


    yea... what was she wearing

    but seriously some things(past) are not ment to be said he could have been a bit more tactful
    have the conversation with him once say everything what you've got to say and never bring it up again or it will just ruin whats left of your relationship


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    c - 13 wrote: »
    Did he specifically say that he had sex with the prostitutes ? Its entirely possible he just went to the red light districts for a look and didnt do anything.
    This is what I was thinking too before the OP cleared it up.
    Sickandsad wrote: »
    Yes, he specifically said he was with prostitutes. He said it just matter of factly. I just feel so disgusted by him and I can't even look at him. The images in my head are unreal...what did he do with them, how many times, what was she wearing, was she better then me, will he do it again..
    I'm not sure there's a future for you with him then.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Sickandsad wrote: »
    Yes, he specifically said he was with prostitutes. He said it just matter of factly. I just feel so disgusted by him and I can't even look at him. The images in my head are unreal...what did he do with them, how many times, what was she wearing, was she better then me, will he do it again..

    Then would you feel the same if he told you he had a really slutty girlfriend in the past? Where does your problem lie, is it the paying for it or the sleaze of the situation?

    Everyone has a past, just not everyone is as open about it. Most women in your situation actually arent in your situation, because their other halves have never told what they got up to.

    There really are only two ways to deal with this, either find a way to move past this, or leave him. But remember that no matter who you meet in the future they will always have some skeletons in the closet that you might have to deal with someday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,931 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    You just have to realise:

    1) If he was that much into a prostitute / another girl, why would he give it up to be with you.

    2) he's happy with YOU. And he's with YOU for many, many reasons.

    3) everybody makes mistakes. Including you. Yes, you have. You might not have slept with a gigolo, but I'm sure there is stuff you've done that he'd prefer you hadn't.

    4) **** all people have a totally clean past. As stated above, will you now ask every possible boyfriend their entire past, and then judge whether to go out with them? And how well would your past stand up to scrutiny?

    5) Its done and over with. A long time ago. You cannot change it - thinking and obsessing about it will not un-do it. Nothing will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭LaVidaLoca


    alright.

    That said I think the fact that this was done abroad does say something about it.

    Lots of guys (particularly Irish ones) would be far more tempted to sleep with a prostitute in a foreign country than to do it at home. I would not judge too harshly the thousands of Irish guys who've gone nuts as soon as hitting the tarmac at Bangkok airport.

    Whereas somehow the idea of picking up some skanky Dublin heroin addict in Adidas by the Grand Canal seems far far more sordid. If it was a 'lads on holiday' type thing and that's it, I wouldnt worry about it (though I know its probably hard not to).

    As far as the poster who said it shows an 'inherent disrespect for women' to sleep with a prostitute, I think thats very 1980's rhetoric. Most men at all periods of history and the present fancy the chances of a casual encounter here and there a great deal more than most women do. Hence prostitution's existence as 'the oldest profession' - there's money to be made out of that gap. I dont see where disrespecting women comes in to it. Do you think that gay men that have casual encounters in toilets disrespect each other? No they're simply having casual fun. Unfortunately, for hetero men, it's pretty hard to have that kind of casual fun, cause most women aren't up for it. So you pay.

    Now that doesnt mean it's nice - it's not. But plenty of really, nice, decent, kind, Irish guys that you'd take home to your mammy have slept with prostitutes while abroad. And you know why? Usually becuase the fact that they are nice kind and decent means they probably have difficulty convincing women to sleep with them when they're at home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭aye


    Sickandsad wrote: »
    I asked my friend in work and he said I’d be hard pushed to find
    A guy who hasn’t or wouldn’t sh*g a prostitute so I really should just suck it up kinda thing. This did not help. Thanks.

    thats not true, i havent and wouldnt shag a protitute, and i know plenty of guys that havent also.
    i also know guys who have done it and regretted it completely.
    you cant paint all guys the same.
    Beerlao wrote: »
    i have and most of my mates have. it's all part of growing up :D

    no its not part of it.
    in fairness, it proves hes honest if he can be open about things like that....isnt that a good thing?

    exactly, he could have lied here. instead he admitted it.
    kmick wrote: »
    Yeah most people would go for a look - its like a tourist attraction in Berlin. You better ask him before you dump him. If he did then by all means it warrants a dumping.

    why does it warrant a dumping? he did it before he was with you, and he didnt lie about it!
    Sickandsad wrote: »
    Yes, he specifically said he was with prostitutes. He said it just matter of factly. I just feel so disgusted by him and I can't even look at him. The images in my head are unreal...what did he do with them, how many times, what was she wearing, was she better then me, will he do it again..

    were the images in the head the same when you thought about him and an ex? are they worse cos they are prostitutes?

    it seems to me this only happens when he is away, and probably with the rugby crowd, so it's possible he was pressuried into it.

    if you cant look at him, take a break and think about it.
    but remember OP no one is perfect and everyone has a past.
    it should matter more how you two get on, then some silly mistakes he made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭Seraphina


    as a female, i personally would find it a big turn off if i found out my boyfriend had been with not one, but several prostitutes.

    i can understand the curiosity and trying it once, but repeated visits? i guess its just that i would associate it with the kind of guys who use women, and regard them as sex objects. i wouldn't associate it with the kind of guy who has a respectful attitude towards women.

    the thing is, its so 'normal' these days, sure all the guys do it, get over it, blah blah blah. i know two different people who have paid for sex, and i guess the attitude of one of them really turned me against the idea. he was all about describing the sordid details, two at a time, i did this and that to them etc. and it made me quite insecure as my boyfriend at the time seemed really jealous of the whole thing, and it made me feel inadequate.

    i know these are obviously personal reasons for disliking the situation, but i also have a problem with the whole, you don't know who you're shagging, where she's been, did she use condoms every time and what i could be exposed to in the situation

    from a moral standpoint, sex trafficking is a huge business these days, and yeah there are a lot of women in it for the money they can make, but at the same time, there's a huge proportion of women forced into it, for whatever reason, especially anywhere prostitution is illegal (everywhere except amsterdam i think?) and as a woman, that prospect disturbs me (i.e. that he potentially paid a pimp to rape a woman)

    i know its all a little extreme, and theoretically i don't have a problem with prostitution per se, but in reality, the idea of being with a guy who has paid for sex a number of times while on 'lads' holidays or whatever, makes me feel a bit sick too, so i don't really blame you.

    at the end of the day, its your decision. if you just can't look at him without thinking of it in disgust, well there's really no point in continuing the relationship. **** whatever anyone thinks about it being the norm and every guy has done it (i call bull**** on that completely, thats just what losers/sleazes who have to pay for sex say to make themselves feel better) in this case, its really your opinion that matters.

    everyone in saying 'it's in the past' yea, *just* before they met, and if he's done it before several times, he's likely to be the kind of guy to do it again (not saying he'll do it while he's with you though)

    look at it this way though, at least he was honest with you. which means he probably quite likes you, and didn't want this to come up in an awkward situation in future and potentially cause a huge row.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    So is it a moral disagreement you have with him about paying for sex ?
    Or is it that as he did, he doesn't respect women ?
    Or is it the idea he might do so while in a relationship with you ?
    Or is it the worry of what he may have come in contact with from a health point of view ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    OP , have you confirmed with your fella that he actually paid to sleep with these women?

    As pointed out, in your initial post it just says he commented on the area's?

    Why is that in the majority of my PI response these days i have advocated that the person talk to their partner/friend/landlord/monkey?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    Dragan wrote: »
    OP , have you confirmed with your fella that he actually paid to sleep with these women?

    As pointed out, in your initial post it just says he commented on the area's?

    Why is that in the majority of my PI response these days i have advocated that the person talk to their partner/friend/landlord/monkey?

    She says after that post that he did definitely sleep with several prostitutes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    i think its important to keep in mind that men are in a more difficult position than women when it comes to being desperete for sex
    a woman can choose to bring someone home for sex whenever they feel like it
    a man may be simply too ugly to get a woman and thus be left with no choice but to pay for it

    i know this isnt relative to the OP,s situation but i think in general its important to see the broader picture


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