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Comply or die, Irish or English?

  • 07-04-2008 10:32AM
    #1
    Burnt Toast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭


    My sister backed the first three horses to be Irish in the national (5 bob, 20/1), and when she went to collect from the bookies she was told Comply or Die was English.

    I've checked aload of places and everywhere says Comply or die is an english trained, irish horse. When i asked one of the lads, i was told that because he's english trained, its an english horse.

    Anyway, my sister sent an email to David Pipe, to try get an answer to show the bookies.


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  • #2
    The jock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 573 ✭✭✭The jock


    Burnt Toast wrote: »
    My sister backed the first three horses to be Irish in the national (5 bob, 20/1), and when she went to collect from the bookies she was told Comply or Die was English.

    I've checked aload of places and everywhere says Comply or die is an english trained, irish horse. When i asked one of the lads, i was told that because he's english trained, its an english horse.

    Anyway, my sister sent an email to David Pipe, to try get an answer to show the bookies.

    Compy or Die is English owned and English Trained. He wasnt even bred in Ireland.The only Irish connection is the jockey Timmy Murphy who is Irish but this horse is an English Horse. Im afraid you wont get paid out.


  • #3
    johnnysmurfman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭johnnysmurfman


    20/1 about the first 3 being Irish? She was scammed, that's a terrible price. Anyway, Comply or Die is an English horse.


  • #4
    Colonel Sanders
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    The jock wrote: »
    He wasnt even bred in Ireland.

    Irish Bred alright being by Old Vic. Trained in England tho, so it'd be classified as an English horse


  • #5
    Morgans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,525 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Burnt Toast wrote: »
    My sister backed the first three horses to be Irish in the national (5 bob, 20/1), and when she went to collect from the bookies she was told Comply or Die was English.

    I've checked aload of places and everywhere says Comply or die is an english trained, irish horse. When i asked one of the lads, i was told that because he's english trained, its an english horse.

    Anyway, my sister sent an email to David Pipe, to try get an answer to show the bookies.

    Are you sure the bet said "to be an Iirsh horse" or "irish-trained horse". if the former, I hope you punish the bookies for being sloppy, but the spirit of the bet was that the three horses in the national to be irish-trained. The bookies deserve to keep the €5 in this case.


  • #6
    Murta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Murta


    Normally, these types of bets refer to country where horse resides and is trained. It doesn't normally apply to origin or birthplace of horse.


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  • #7
    ioctl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭ioctl


    Exactly. Sure Denman was born in Cork.


  • #8
    Crumbs
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    That Denman is some langer, boy!


  • #9
    Jack E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Jack E


    Yup, I’m afraid it depends on where the horse is trained. For example, if you backed an Irish bred horse, trained by Jonjo O’Neill (Irish man), ridden by AP McCoy (Irish man), and owned by JP McManus (another Irish man) , it would still be counted as an English winner because its trained in England! :cool:


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