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Sir Bono

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    KaG1888 wrote: »
    from my experiences over the water the English seem to be alot friendlier to us now too.




    They always were though in my experience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Davidius wrote: »
    Meh I heard he was a bit of a prick anyway.

    Reminds though, didn't some guy get one of these titles of the French even though it's a republic?

    Everyone I know who's ever met the man thinks he's a nice bloke actually.
    Because he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,299 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Thread title is flawed tbh, he's not a British citizen so can't use the title 'Sir'. Just gets some letters after his name or something. Good enough for him for accepting it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Spyral


    rather see him become pope thats more rock n roll.

    he cannot be pope as he is a protestant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,575 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    sdonn_1 wrote: »
    Thread title is flawed tbh, he's not a British citizen so can't use the title 'Sir'. Just gets some letters after his name or something. Good enough for him for accepting it.

    MBE or OBE isn't it?

    don't know what they mean though.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Bono is an OBE I think. Even if he was British an OBE doesn't give you the right to use 'sir' before your name. O = officer and M = member


    As Lennon once said :
    Lots of people who complained about us receiving the MBE received theirs for heroism in the war—for killing people. We received ours for entertaining other people. I'd say we deserve ours more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    An MBE doesn't give an Irish person the right to be called "Sir" either. The Corrs got honourary MBE's a year and a half ago.

    I'm not sure Irish people should accept these titles but I don't really care what Bono does, to be honest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Bard wrote: »
    An MBE doesn't give an Irish person the right to be called "Sir" either. The Corrs got honourary MBE's a year and a half ago.

    I'm not sure Irish people should accept these titles but I don't really care what Bono does, to be honest.

    He'll accept it because he's a typical me feiner,a greedy,money-grabbing little parasite and a hypocritical preacher of nonsense.Him and Bob Geldof wil die roaring for a vicar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,299 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Ponster wrote: »
    O = officer and M = member

    ...of the British Empire. No wonder people don't take to kindly to him accepting it eh :rolleyes:

    Moneygrabbing git. I'm sure he means well sometimes but he's too self-obsessed for that to be of any use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 380 ✭✭ODS


    This has been in another forum but may as well be here; was in Phoenix last year - fairly shocking stuff imo

    SIR BONO'S PROFIT FROM WARGAMES

    WHEN NOT saving the world or relocating companies off-shore, Bono KBE (Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire) has been busy recently in making interesting investments – with one such gambit being into a software firm which specialises in "extremely realistic videos to be used as training games for the US military".

    The recently elevated knight has become part owner in Elevation Partners – a massive US-based investments company set up in 2005 where, along with five other non-U2 partners, Sir Bono has a one sixth partnership. But, regrettably the activities of this and related companies don't always seem to match the world-saving rhetoric of Hewson's finer words.

    Only last August Elevation bought a substantial stake into Forbes Media, publisher of Forbes Magazine, which is responsible for printing various "Top 100" type lists – the best known being that of billionaires. Editor-in-chief Malcolm 'Steve' Forbes is, of course, well- known for his "traditional" US Republican agenda. Featuring on a variety of platforms such as his own TV show, "Forbes on Fox", Steve is known for being against gun control, pro death penalty, opposing pollution control, and a world perspective that promotes, as he succinctly puts it himself, a "US not UN Foreign Policy".

    Happily the part acquisition of Forbes ran smoothly, with Elevation partner, Roger McNamee, telling the NYT that Bono "was attracted to the magazine because it has a 'point of view,' adding that Bono 'drove this part of the discussion and likes the fact that there has been a consistent philosophy throughout its history'".

    However the really cool move by Elevation is over on the US west coast, where it invested a reported $300 million in 2005 on a company called Pandemic/Bioware Studios. As reported in the Boston Globe, Pandemic is currently preparing to launch a product called 'Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, "a violent video game in which players become hired mercenaries who invade Venezuela, where a tyrant has tampered with the country's oil supply" – in other words the opportunity to re-run the CIA's failed 2001 coup attempt in cyberspace, except this time there can be victory.

    Not surprisingly, this has not impressed a number of parties including the Venezuela Solidarity Network and the Boston Bolivarian Network, who last July first wrote to Bono to protest.

    Helpfully Venezuela Network issued a release stating "Pandemic is a sub-contractor for the US army and the CIA funded Institute for Creative technologies which uses Hollywood techniques to mount war in California's high dessert in order to conduct military training. Pandemic's target market is young men of military recruitment age and indeed this is not Pandemic's first military adventure. Micro Soft NBC reported that the videogame Full Spectrum Warrior was created through the Institute for Creative Technologies in Marina Del Rey, California, a $45 million endeavor formed by the Army five years ago to connect academics with local entertainment and video game industries. The institute subcontracted work to Los Angeles based Pandemic Studios."

    Despite the fuss, 10 months on, with the product due out this autumn, there's still no word from the new KBE about the ethical criticisms of his investments. This hasn't stopped a head of steam building up in the meanwhile. One petitioning letter by US clerics Reverend David A Bos, Rabbi Michael Lerner, and Pax Christi USA Ambassador for Peace, Fr. Joe Nangle OFM, has secured further signatures from the US Fellowship for Reconciliation and other religious organizations.

    Apparently hes since sold on the shares - at a profit. So much for "Bullet the blue sky"...


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,691 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    I hate these type of threads. Often its to rise people to say "fcuk the brits" and all that rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Id happily accept it.

    Sir Snyper MBE has a certain ring to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭jahalpin


    I don't know why the Queen would want to waste a knighthood on someone like Bono.

    Everything is does is motivated by profit (which in itself isn't a bad thing, but to try to imply that he is doing it for any other reason is wrong). His Red campaign is only to improve sales of U2 music.

    Bob Geldolf, on the other hand, was motivated by a desire to help the starving people of Africa and he deserved a knighthood for his work

    The British Ambassador probably wouldn't be able to knight him anyway, as his head is so big, it would be difficult for the sword to make contact with his sholder anyway!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    Bono has done good things. In fact he has done a lot more good things than the people we elect to do good things for us. Why wouldn't he accept an honour bestowed on him by another country?

    Bono is an honoury doctor from Trinity as well. As a side note: people with honoury doctorates are not meant to use the title Dr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Oh christ. Here we go again.
    Bono made a few quid?
    Lenin, Marx and Stalin must be spinning in their graves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭Rossibaby


    bono is a little self-absorbed hypocrite and i don't care what he does.it would be like him to accept this,the same with his buddy geldof.they have done some good stuff,of that there is no doubt and u2 are a great band...but i thin he does it all for the glory and not for the right reasons at all.how about he gives some of his vast wealth to nations in trouble,not all like but is it not a bit hypocritcal asking working class people to make donations when he can afford a private jet:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    ODS wrote: »
    This has been in another forum but may as well be here; was in Phoenix last year - fairly shocking stuff imo



    Apparently hes since sold on the shares - at a profit. So much for "Bullet the blue sky"...


    Eh Phoenix is a satirical magazine, that article is nonsense. Lol "Pandemic is a sub-contractor for the US army".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭poker-jacks


    Degsy wrote: »
    So what's he done to deserve it?Written songs about moles living in holes?Sued people over a pair of trousers?Moved offshore to avoid paying tax for nine months of the year?The swine deserves nothing.

    He's not a tax exile. Artists in this country are exempt from income tax, take it up with a politician if you disagree.

    Bono stated that "you can call me anything, except Sir".

    This thread is unbelievably flawed with non-factual and inaccurate information.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    This thread is unbelievably flawed with non-factual and inaccurate information.

    Welcome to AH !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,299 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Creature wrote: »
    Eh Phoenix is a satirical magazine, that article is nonsense. Lol "Pandemic is a sub-contractor for the US army".

    *falls off chair*

    Awww, ODS you Muppet. (Even though my first thought was Phoenix in the US not the magazine :) )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Degsy wrote: »
    He'll accept it because he's a typical me feiner,a greedy,money-grabbing little parasite and a hypocritical preacher of nonsense.Him and Bob Geldof wil die roaring for a vicar!
    sdonn_1 wrote: »
    ...
    Moneygrabbing git. I'm sure he means well sometimes but he's too self-obsessed for that to be of any use.
    jahalpin wrote: »
    I don't know why the Queen would want to waste a knighthood on someone like Bono.

    Everything is does is motivated by profit (which in itself isn't a bad thing, but to try to imply that he is doing it for any other reason is wrong). His Red campaign is only to improve sales of U2 music
    ....
    The British Ambassador probably wouldn't be able to knight him anyway, as his head is so big, ....
    Rossibaby wrote: »
    bono is a little self-absorbed hypocrite and i don't care what he does...

    Say the anonymous hoarde from behind their keyboards, where, no doubt, they're feeding a starving HIV+ african orphan with one hand, writing cheques to the Red Cross with the other, typing with their feet, and negotiating debt refinancing deals on their skype headset at the same time.

    Ever met the man? (I mean met as in interacted with, not bumped into in the pub, or waved at).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,186 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    My €.02
    I may take the p155 out of honorary PhDs and OBEs and the like being awarded to band members for their music alone, but for his patronage of worthy causes I would have no problem with Bono getting an award based on his humanitarian efforts.
    I'm sure most of the uber rich contribute in much the same way as the unclean masses, feck all.
    If the public keep moaning about celebrities giving away their time and money it's going to stop.
    While I understand many redistribute their wealth anonymously there’s something to be said for advertising patronage of a cause, it encourages others to join in and is therefore something to be encouraged even if the motives are less than saintly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 442 ✭✭Defenestrate


    They should Knight me instead, I'll think of a reason later.

    Edit: I deserve a knighthood cos I'd take it very seriously and make a coat of arms with lions & dragons and other cool animals. Then I'd ride around on a big white horse rescuing damsels in distress (helping old ladies cross the road). Finally, I'd use it to chat up girls in nightclubs, the realted lines are endless.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Say the anonymous hoarde from behind their keyboards, where, no doubt, they're feeding a starving HIV+ african orphan with one hand, writing cheques to the Red Cross with the other, typing with their feet, and negotiating debt refinancing deals on their skype headset at the same time.

    Ever met the man? (I mean met as in interacted with, not bumped into in the pub, or waved at).

    The plain fact is i dont give a shiit about orphans in africa or the red cross or debt in other countries.What happens over there is none of my concern.I'm not a hypocrite because i dont care.Bono is a hypocrite because he pretends to care and yet his motivating factor is greed,,pure greed,the cause of all the world's debt and finacial hardship.If i'm short of a few bob i dont ask the wealthy people of africa(and there are lots) to give me thier money.why should we give them ours.More to the point why should bono tell anybody what to do with THEIR money when he's not giving away any of HIS??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Degsy wrote: »
    Bono is a hypocrite because he pretends to care and yet his motivating factor is greed,,pure greed,the cause of all the world's debt and finacial hardship.If i'm short of a few bob i dont ask the wealthy people of africa(and there are lots) to give me thier money.why should we give them ours.More to the point why should bono tell anybody what to do with THEIR money when he's not giving away any of HIS??

    Ever met the man?
    Seen his bank statement?
    Any proof he's not giving money to charity?
    Know for a fact he's greedy and motivated by money?
    Bitter much?

    Also, there's slight difference between someone with an electricty supply and a computer being short of a few bob, and being one of the thousands starving or dying for want of a few cents worth of medicine or food.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy



    Also, there's slight difference between someone with an electricty supply and a computer being short of a few bob, and being one of the thousands starving or dying for want of a few cents worth of medicine or food.

    Well if Bono cares that much he should lead by example..give all his money away to these "worthy" causes that he's allways preaching about.I've my own bills to worry about and when i'm finished paying taxes(which Bono doesnt),a mortage,esb bills etc etc i'm not financially in a position to give money away.I ask again,did africa help ireland out at any time?Did Live Aid put an end to famine?Would cancelling third world debt make a blind bit of difference?No.because the problems in these countries are caused by the people themselves,military juntas,dictators and corrupt officials.Short of invading there's NOTHING we can do.Bono could help,he could liquidate his assets,don sackcloth and ashes and go and live amongst the poor and needy,effecting change from within..as if he would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Degsy wrote: »
    Well if Bono cares that much he should lead by example..give all his money away to these "worthy" causes that he's allways preaching about.

    So:
    No you've never met him
    No you haven't seen his bank account.
    No you don't know how much he gives to charity.
    No you've no proof he's greedy and motivated by money.

    Yet apparantly you know him well enough to decide whether he's
    "a typical me feiner,a greedy,money-grabbing little parasite" or not.

    Which answers my next question:
    Bitter much?
    Yes, apparantly so.
    The plain fact is i dont give a shiit about orphans in africa or the red cross or debt in other countries.What happens over there is none of my concern.

    "a typical me feiner"
    I ask again,did africa help ireland out at any time?Did Live Aid put an end to famine?Would cancelling third world debt make a blind bit of difference?No.
    ....
    Bono could help,he could liquidate his assets,don sackcloth and ashes and go and live amongst the poor and needy,effecting change from within..as if he would.

    So giving them money wouldn't help, but it would help if it was Bono's money?
    Is bono's money a different colour or something? Made with a special "problem-solving" ink?

    As a side note, how exactly were the colonialised people of Africa supposed to help us during the potato famine? Just a thought.
    I've my own bills to worry about and when i'm finished paying taxes(which Bono doesnt),a mortage,esb bills etc etc i'm not financially in a position to give money away.
    You've got a house, a mortgage, running water, electricty, a working nation state, and a job. As far as 90% of the world is concerned, you're rich beyond measure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I think it's absolutely, unequivocally, retarded to accept an honour from such an outdated and god-awful concept - the British Monarchy.

    "Howya Queeny, Yes.. Please give me your scraps. I'm so very honoured to accept this meaningless title. Can I carry your bags to your room now?"

    On a side note, I think Bono is a good guy, has produced some fine music in the past and generally tries to do his bit for the poor.. Which can't be a bad thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    Degsy wrote: »
    The plain fact is i dont give a shiit about orphans in africa or the red cross or debt in other countries.What happens over there is none of my concern.
    my what a charming individual :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    So:
    No you've never met him
    No you haven't seen his bank account.
    No you don't know how much he gives to charity.
    No you've no proof he's greedy and motivated by money.

    Yet apparantly you know him well enough to decide whether he's
    "a typical me feiner,a greedy,money-grabbing little parasite" or not.

    Which answers my next question:
    Bitter much?
    Yes, apparantly so.



    "a typical me feiner"



    So giving them money wouldn't help, but it would help if it was Bono's money?
    Is bono's money a different colour or something? Made with a special "problem-solving" ink?

    As a side note, how exactly were the colonialised people of Africa supposed to help us during the potato famine? Just a thought.


    You've got a house, a mortgage, running water, electricty, a working nation state, and a job. As far as 90% of the world is concerned, you're rich beyond measure.


    I have met him actually,he's a pompous little oaf.Do YOU know how much money he's worth then?Its not a matter of ay great secerecy,his earnings are widely reported from time to time as are teh amount of money he managed to save by not paying any tax.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aef6sR60oDgM&refer=home
    One doesnt need to know somebody personally or have access to thier bank details to know if their primary motivation in life is the aquisition of money.He's preaching to the world,to the taxpayer,to the man in the street about reliving famine and other such nonsense that's none of his business while he has hundreds of millions of euro himself.If he gives anything to cahrity(which i doubt),its a mere pittance compared to the amount he rakes in every year.
    I'm not "bitter",i'm "pissed off".One thing i cannot stand is hypocrites.I've said i dont give a damn about africa so i'm not going to preach to people,he plainly doesnt care THAT much or he'd give his money away,as i've said,go and help if he feels so strongly about it all.
    One thing i've noticed among many people with so-called "charitable" leanings is the desire they all seem to have to telleverybody what they're doing.They dont volunteer to got to africa,come home and then shut up about it:they show everybody thier "holiday" snaps,they remind thier colleagues in work every chance they get what they're doing.Why are they doing it?For ego-satisfacton..for selfish,hypocritical reasons,to big themselves up.Bono is an example of this to the nth degree,he's trying to assuage his guilt for being greedy by deflecting attention onto something else instead.
    The "90% of the world" who think i'm "rich beyond measure" might be more motivated to work and change thier lot if first-world do-gooders stopped giving them handouts.


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