Are Man Utd. the best team in the world atm?

Jazzy · 01-04-2008 10:02PM #1

I know I know, a very controversial thread title.

Anyhow, imo right now (as much as it pains me to say as im a Liverpool fan) Utd are the best team in the world. 15 goals conceded in the league, 5 conceded in the CL. drubbing liverpool, arsenal, villa, newcastle (scored 11 goals against them over 2 games). breezing through to the semi's of the CL (well, almost). they have the worlds best player atm (ronaldo) a fantastic work ethic, playing brilliant football and the most solid defence in the world. they've scored 68 goals so far in the league (thats more then the current leaders in seira a and la liga) and there is quite literally no team in the world they fear (maybe man citeh

)

as for who else is better then them - we have Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, Chelski and maybe (but not really) Arsenal.
Barca atm are the only team that I think have the potential to be better but they havent had the best season so far. next season though (if they sort their defence) they would be well up for it.

I cant really see Real, Inter and Chelski being better then them and if god came down to me and said "Who is the best football team in the world??!!!" id have to say Utd. I just cant justify saying anyone else atm.

What do others think?

PHB · 01-04-2008 10:03PM

Yes

herbieflowers · 01-04-2008 10:03PM

well if they win the CL you might be justified in saying so...

Mitch Connor · 01-04-2008 10:05PM

don't know - i a psimist so i still look at us as very unproven. If we win the CL and the league then yes - until then we are just a very good side.

Also, if we are to consider ourselves the best side in the world we need to play like it - ie./ play OUR game and make the opposition change to suit us.

RasTa · 01-04-2008 10:06PM

We could still win nothing....

01-04-2008 10:07PM

I have to agree. i know a lot of people wont coss they just hate United but atm based on the fact that they are a complete team and about the only complete team I can think of in Europe that alone makes them the current best.

However all that is a load of bollox if they dont go on to win it. Potential is one thing, realising it is another so I will catagorically say "YES" if and only if they go on to prove it by winning competitions. For example if they win NEITHER the Premiership or the CL then they cant be considered the best can they?

That said, everyone esle is in the same position, u have to win to be the best and nobody else has won anything either so effectively what we're talking about here is who's the best team on paper, and imo, right now, thats United.

01-04-2008 10:09PM

Tauren wrote: »

Also, if we are to consider ourselves the best side in the world we need to play like it - ie./ play OUR game and make the opposition change to suit us.

No. The best teams are flexible. If all we ever did was play our game and not worry about the others then United would effectively be one dimensional. The fact that they won tonight by mopping up pressure and hitting Roma on the break shows that they are versatile and more than just an attacking side.

invincibleirish · 01-04-2008 10:09PM

This thread was entirely predictable after tonight where they did impress. however they were saying the same after Roma last year too, and remember what happened next in Milan? Let them win things before we go too crazy in out praise!

Yours sincerely bitter Villa fan.

P.S., i heard again in the press this week this notion that Totti isnt as respected as he should be across Europe, and then vague reasons for like not playing well in big games, well here's his chance, Roma are 2-0 down, if he gets fit delivers an amazing game and takes Roma through then he will be a legend, will it happen even if he does play? probably not.

Little-Devil · 01-04-2008 10:09PM

herbieflowers wrote: »

well if they win the CL you might be justified in saying so...

You need to read the title of thread again.

Yes for me....

herbieflowers · 01-04-2008 10:10PM

Little-Devil wrote: »

You need to read the title of thread again.

Yes for me....

ugh, it was implied from the title...

Jazzy · 01-04-2008 10:13PM

thats the thing tho, you cant have won anything at this stage of the season. unless ur spurs

Im saying how right now they are the best... as in its in their hands to lose the CL & PL.

as for the imposing the game stuff, i disagree
I think the best teams adapt to beat any team regardless of what formation they play. Utd's best imo is a 442 but this doesnt work for every match, thankfully they have such quality players that the can jink their formation to suit and still leave £18m signing Hargreaves on the bench! that sort of depth is amazing. In todays game depth counts for far more then it did in say the mid 90's

and if they arent the best and im wrong.... tell me then, what team is better and for what reasons? for them not to be the best, there has to be one better. who are they?

deisedevil · 01-04-2008 10:14PM

Playing the best football right now, no doubt about it. Will mean nothing though if we win nothing.

Little-Devil · 01-04-2008 10:15PM

herbieflowers wrote: »

well if they win the CL you might be justified in saying so...

You said if the win the Champions League. The title said the ATM

flahavaj · 01-04-2008 10:15PM

The exact same talk was being bandied about after they hammered Roma last year, only for them to be played off the pitch by Milan. This is a typical overreaction that happens over and over again and is reminiscent of the ridiculous talk about Ronaldo being the best player in the world (hes not even the best player at United).

Bear in mind I'm saying this as a United fan and if they win the Champions League, then yes they can legitimately call themselves the world's best. In the meantime premature hyperbole only sets us up for a fall in the many difficult games to come.

herbieflowers · 01-04-2008 10:16PM

Little-Devil wrote: »

You said if the win the Champions League. The title said the ATM

ugh, I hate pedants like you, mainly cos you remind me of me!

Jazzy · 01-04-2008 10:17PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Bear in mind I'm saying this as a United fan and if they win the Champions League, then yes they can legitimately call themselves the world's best.

whos better then them at the minute and why ??

estebancambias · 01-04-2008 10:18PM

Lies Lies Lies. The only difference between Roma and UTD is luck, and a true goalscorer.

:(:(

Peyton Manning · 01-04-2008 10:20PM

estebancambias wrote: »

Lies Lies Lies. The only difference between Roma and UTD is luck, and a true goalscorer.

:(:(

Its Roma's fault they never invited you to trials...

flahavaj · 01-04-2008 10:22PM

Jazzy wrote: »

whos better then them at the minute and why ??

Its a pointless argument at this stage of the season. A few short weeks ago Arsenal looked like the best side in the world, then their form dropped.

The only true indicator of greatness is seeing things through and winning trophies, nothing is won or should be judged in March.

United are flying at the moment and look strong in every department. But what if Vidic is now out for the season, that could be the difference between wining the Champions League or not, lets just leave it at that for now and see what the season's end brings.

estebancambias · 01-04-2008 10:23PM

Archimedes wrote: »

Its Roma's fault they never invited you to trials...

Arch(imedes) was never much of a poacher, the best I ever got in a season was at tops 10. I could pass the ball better than ****ing most of them tonight though, hell (insert boards worst player or Des) could pass the ball better than most of them.

lordgoat · 01-04-2008 10:24PM

I think they are, i'm never been more carefree while watching them, i don't care who they are playing we can beat them all. Fear no one. Go out and play the game and they ave the players to win. All this will mean nothing, they need to continue it in the league at the wknd and beat boro. I expect nothing from Roma in the return leg. Hopefully a professional performance and bring on the semi's. Again i ond't mind who we play. To be the best you have to beat the rest.

It's always been good to be a red for me. I've followed them for about 20 years. This is the best team and football i've seen. For that reason alone i want them to win the league and CL this year.

Bring on the next game.

Little-Devil · 01-04-2008 10:27PM

flahavaj wrote: »

A few short weeks ago Arsenal looked like the best side in the world, then their form dropped.

As a Manu fan i do think that Manu have being the best team all season from and played someone of best football including Arsenal. I know a few liverpool/Arsenal fans etc who also have agreed but they wouldn't say it in public :rolleyes:

I dont think we can really judge Manu until the end of the season.

gosplan · 01-04-2008 10:32PM

LMAO at people saying the CL is 'theirs to lose now'.

They do have perhaps the best squad in the world at the moment and it's a squad for the future too but that means little when it's 11 v 11 in the knockout stages.

I'm not knocking them, just saying that whether they win the champions league or not, it doesn't really mean that they're the best team in the world. Look at liverpool vrs milan in last years final. Mediocre league teams.

Sqaull20 · 01-04-2008 10:38PM

If they beat Barca, yes..

United Vs Barca is an awesome prospect, Barca will give them a game no doubt..

Henry, Bojan, Eto'o, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi ( if he's fit) will take some stopping in form or not...

estebancambias · 01-04-2008 10:39PM

Sqaull20 wrote: »

If they beat Barca, yes..

United Vs Barca is an awesome prospect, Barca will give them a game no doubt..

Henry, Bojan, Eto'o, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi ( if he's fit) will take some stopping in form or not...

It will be a cracker.

01-04-2008 10:40PM

Sqaull20 wrote: »

If they beat Barca, yes..

United Vs Barca is an awesome prospect, Barca will give them a game no doubt..

Henry, Bojan, Eto'o, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi ( if he's fit) will take some stopping in form or not...

So will Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo, Scholes, Anderson etc

Thats why its such a mouth watering prospect.

Pigman II · 01-04-2008 10:41PM

AC Milan are the best team in the World until May.

MisterAnarchy · 01-04-2008 10:42PM

As a United fan ,no they are not the best team in the World.
Their away form in Europe over the last few years has been appalling bar a few results.
They look suspect away from home against good sides and a full strength Barca side could burst their bubble at the Nou Camp.
RTE are over the top tonight in their reactions.
Rooney has had 2 good performances after months of mediocrity and he is being heralded as a God.Silly silly talk.

Mitch Connor · 01-04-2008 10:43PM

Sqaull20 wrote: »

If they beat Barca, yes..

United Vs Barca is an awesome prospect, Barca will give them a game no doubt..

Henry, Bojan, Eto'o, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi ( if he's fit) will take some stopping in form or not...

indeed - the prospect of Brown coming up against any of them scares the crap out of me.

ziggy · 01-04-2008 10:44PM

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Sqaull20 · 01-04-2008 10:45PM

Tauren wrote: »

indeed - the prospect of Brown coming up against any of them scares the crap out of me.

lol good point..

How long is Vidic out for?

Last time yee missed one of Ferdinand/Vidic yee were slaughtered by Kaka...

Are Man Utd. the best team in the world atm?

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