Tommy Tiernan

tallaght01 · 01-04-2008 08:13PM

went to see Tommy over xmas. Quality show, racism and all

Very funny guy.

Eoin · 01-04-2008 09:16PM

buckfast4me wrote: »

I think hes great. The people here who are offended by his routine let me tell you something - that is EXACTLY what his intentions are! Hes playing into you, and it appears to be working.

Not everyone who dislikes him is offended by him - they just don't find him funny.

BraziliaNZ · 01-04-2008 11:06PM

Yes Ross Noble played for 2.5 hours last night, none of it appeared to be scripted either, excellent show

mossieh · 01-04-2008 11:18PM

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I hope Tommy is reading this thread. It would be a shame if he missed all the advice on how to fix his act from the resident experts on live comedy performance...

LoanShark · 02-04-2008 03:11AM

I generally like watching comedians and I really like most of the Irish ones

BUT I have never liked Tommy..I just think that any Comedian that has to rely on using [EMAIL="F@@k"]F@@k[/EMAIL] in the way he uses it is just not funny..
I really Pi$$€s me off when he makes his appearance on Ray Darcy Show and they call "Irelands Funniest Man" and all tommys family and friends text in saying How much of a funny fecker he is and How ireland is a better place with him in it etc.....Only for the radio is attached to the dash board in the car I would throw it out the window..

Tommy Once said that he uses Billy Connolly and Richard Pryor as his insipration for his shows...I know that I said about the way the person uses the F word is'nt funny.. But anyone will agree that Billy and Richard used it alot,The way they delivered their punch line and the way they used F$ck Is all relivant and it works within the joke Compared to Tommys way which is just thrown in to just try and get a laugh...

Anyone see the show that he did when he was trying to break into the american scene??..Someone at work gave it to me in a kriss kindle..I decided to give a go, The Funniest part was when Tommy was talking to the owner of a club and he asked the owner about his language policy.. The owner told tommy that he did'nt like his acts using Foul language, He Said that he believes that you dont need to use foul language to be funny!....The Look On Tommys face was Priceless(infact it was the funniest moment of the whole DVD)You could just see the fear in his face as he realised that he actually had to to be funny without cursing...It didnt last too long as began to panic and had to do something..
Also he went on to say that Irish People use Foul Language as a form of expression and we use it all the time, I Don't about you But I would only use foul language when something goes wrong or if I'm Telling a story to friends and it fits in..

Sorry for going on so much but I think you get an Idea of the way I feel about him..

Anyways,
I really dont like Tommy.

LoanShark · 02-04-2008 03:18AM

kellybelly wrote: »

shock horror...controversy sells.Secondly he was clever enough to play off you 'intellectual people',and now he has an entire country of people like you talking about his show and filling out venues up and down the country.I would say thats pretty clever would'nt you?

Im sure that Tommy won't lose any sleep tonight when he is sleeping on his big bed of money that guess what?....you have given him!!!Whos not so clever now.

Its really the last bit I wanted to highlight...Since Some people Dont like Tommy, They wouldnt really give him any money!!! I Dont Like Tommy, I've never bought any of his DVDs Nor Been at his Shows So I know for a fact that there is a hole in his "BIG BED OF MONEY" Where YOU think mine is.... BUT its Not!!!
SO Who's Not So Clever Now???

kellybelly · 02-04-2008 10:33AM

For a previous poster who said I just had a rant and the real question is whether Tommy Tiernan is funny or not I will refer you to the Original Post which I was addressing. The question in this post was about the alleged Racist comments.I realise we all have our own opinions I myself do find him funny but I understand others that don’t feel the same way.
Loanshark how nice of you to join in the discussion, however unfortunately you seem to have missed my point. I shouldn’t bother wasting my time but I feel compelled to enlighten you from your darkened spell of ironic ignorance.
You also seem to be oblivious to the fact that yes in some small indirect way you have contributed to the fame of said comedian. You say that you have not purchased his DVD’s nor have you attended his shows however you are on the internet arguing about him, do you not concede that this in itself would contribute quite significantly to his popularity?
Controversy sells my little friend and in this wonderful world where the media control what you and I think it is important for people in the public eye to stay in the public eye. As they say in the world of celebrity “there is only one thing worse than people talking about you and that is when people are not talking about you”, any publicity is good publicity in this world.
Now you may recall about two years ago when Tommy Tiernan was as good as banned from “The Late Late Show” for his descent towards Irish Priests and the Catholic Church in Ireland. Now please Loanshark give me some faith in humanity and tell me you are not gullible enough to think it is all one convenient coincidence. Tommy goes on the show with the highest viewer ratings in the country, watched by devoted Catholics all over the land, a show steeped in rural Irish values of the 1960’s fifty years on. He then commits comedic blasphemy, showing contempt towards the nation’s most sacred vocation that we are expected to show complete respect and admiration for. You will find that in fact Tommy had just embarked on his latest tour and being banned from the show was probably the best thing he could have done. As soon as he came off air the phone never stopped ringing with complaints from the aforementioned viewers. This was everything Tommy could have hoped for the entire country was talking about him.
Now please tell me you can see how a good promotional campaign can cause a huge stir of excitement with one single act. I’m sure Tommy himself would thank the spineless people like yourself who have given him all this free publicity over the years, the fickle, single-minded people who promote his shows and DVD’s by simply talking about them. In fact I would say that even by posting on this forum has helped donate to the already sizeable fund that is Tommy Tiernans’ bank Account.
It must be so very humbling to see that the stone of envy and denial which you cast upon anothers waters of success has only rippled and now adds to their already growing riches. How very ironic that the more people slander him and complain about his attitude towards society’s taboo topics the richer he will become.
I feel I can continue but I hope now you can begin to realise that you like the others have been duped by a very clever Promotional Campaign that began years ago and still you haven’t cracked to code of controversy. So loanshark to summarise that is who the clever one is ...Tommy Tiernan.
I apologise for the long winded post but some people need things spelt out for them.

Naos · 02-04-2008 12:59PM

He's still not funny, IMO

however you are on the internet arguing about him, do you not concede that this in itself would contribute quite significantly to his popularity?

Your definition of "popularity" is wrong by the way.

ojewriej · 02-04-2008 01:05PM

Being polish, I have to say I'm not offended by TTs jokes.

But I do think he is not funny. Way overrated. Wat's with all the shouting?

twinQuins · 02-04-2008 01:13PM

kellybelly wrote: »

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Your attitude of condescension isn't doing anything to help you, by the way.It's actually rather puerile.

AnonoBoy · 02-04-2008 01:16PM

ojewriej wrote: »

But I do think he is not funny. Way overrated. Wat's with all the shouting?

He's from Navan. That's the way people from Navan have to communicate due to the large waxy deposits in their ears.

kellybelly · 02-04-2008 02:19PM

Naos I would reckon I am fairly confident with my understanding of the word 'popularity' thanks,however if you are referring to the context which I used it in maybe you should count the amount of sold out shows Tommy Tiernan has had since the start of his career.Selling out thousands of seats in venues around the world night after night to me would lead me to think that he is popular.If not in your eyes then perhaps in the eyes of the millions he has entertained.Although I hardly think that he would consider that a loss.

Morkaleth I'm sorry if it seemed peurile but then again this is coming from someone who reads comic strips on the Internet.

kellybelly · 02-04-2008 02:31PM

ojewriej its great to see that you don't take offence to it,and that you realise that it wasnt an attack on Polish people.That was the point I wanted to make to the OP.

I understand that his style of comedy is not for everyone and that a lot of people don't rate him as funny.

Hub · 02-04-2008 02:54PM

ven0m wrote: »

it seems If you are an irish comedian, you are NOT allowed poke fun at Irish stupidy when it comes to non-Irish people (except British people because of course that's 'always acceptible' :rolleyes:

I've read this a few times and it still doesn't make any sense.

ven0m wrote: »

Ireland has gone to the dogs & until the political correctness brigade are put in their place, nothing will be safe.

lol yeah the country has gone to the dogs because of the "political correctness brigade" and "& until the political correctness brigade are put in their place, nothing will be safe"

like, wtf?

LoanShark · 02-04-2008 03:02PM

You can Make a point I will give you that..

I never mentioned anything about Tommy Being racist or anything about his Late Late Performance,I could'nt care less about what he says or does.. I was merely pointing out that I did'nt like him.. I dont think the guy is funny, I said that in relation to his swearing that he used it to "try" to achieve laughs even though,And I as I used examples of Billy Connolly and Richard Pryor I said that they use language in a different way that fits in with the flow of the story.. Roaring "FU€K" at the top of your voice is a lame way to achieve a reaction..

I also highlighted a previous post that you sent in about TT and his
"Bed Of Money" I stated there that I did'nt give him any of mine..
But I do accept that Controveresy sells and the more we talk about him the more stays in the limelight, But Thats Life!!

kellybelly · 02-04-2008 03:08PM

Loanshark I see your point about the swearing at the top of his voice and I see how that would not exactly endear him to some people.

The point I was making about the racism and that was more aimed at the OP and the thread in general,sorry I should have made that clearer.

twinQuins · 02-04-2008 03:31PM

kellybelly wrote: »

Morkaleth I'm sorry if it seemed peurile but then again this is coming from someone who reads comic strips on the Internet.

Apologies if it should seem that way but I was trying to engage you on the only level you seem capable of. Again, your tone of condescension only serves to reinforce what I've said - it's patently wrong to talk down to those who are fully capable of forming an actual argument (see below for clarification).

Also, I find it quite charming how you assume that, (1) I read webcomics (that particular post from xkcd is quite well known), and (2) that that should somehow lessen me, were it indeed true. Also I note you don't deny the inference: that you're taking all this entirely too seriously.
Then again, you come across as one of those "BAAAAWWW, LIBERAL PC DO-GOODERS ARE OPPRESSING ME" types and believe me, I'm very familiar with them. You may be more verbose but the argument is little more than that.

eroo · 02-04-2008 04:45PM

OP,nobody forced you to go!Did you stay?If so,you probably didn't have to if you did not like the show

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kellybelly · 02-04-2008 04:58PM

Verbose?I think not.

I feel humbled to think that not only have you graded my intellectual capacity but in addition you have stereotyped me as one of "those" people?...Now surely that is condescending,no?

I simply made a informed assumption about you reading comic strips on the internet,after all you did just submit one didn't you?Or did you just pick that at random without reading it at all perhaps?...Or maybe you would argue that this is not a comic,well in that case if someone has time to scan the internet for a completely irrelevant schoolboy scrawl to illustrate how "those" people behave then perhaps said person should consider a hobby.

To comment on your snide remark which seems quite hypocritical in retrospect,about me taking this too seriously,I fail to see your point.

I don't know about you but to me allegations of racism and slandering of someones name is quite serious.

seamusob · 02-04-2008 05:09PM

TT started to go downhill long ago. He was great at one time. I just wish he'd disappear now. His attempt to do something in the US was painful. I switched of when he started to ramble on about the Holocaust as if he had a clue. I don't think he is a racist, he's just stupid.

deisedevil · 02-04-2008 05:19PM

dregin wrote: »

Has anyone else been to see Tommy Tiernan in Vicar Street? I dunno if last night was a once off or are all his shows racist spam fests? I couldn't believe that people were laughing at his impressions of Polish people and refugees. 5 minutes in a guy shouted "racist" and of course Tommy was in up in arms straight away and most of the crowd were there to back him up. There were plenty of people around me less than impressed with his attempts at comedy.

The guy seems to have been living off the back of one episode of father ted for most of his "career" and all I can say is thank christ we didn't actually pay in to see nothing more than a racist playing up to the generic paddy homophobic, racist sense of humour.
I'm fairly sure last night's "performance" was significantly more right wing than usual thanks to your man heckling Tiernan, but has anyone else bee to the other shows?

Stand ups all over the world poke fun at other nations. No big deal there. I'm sick of people getting upset at what they think is racism towards Polish people.
Tommy Tiernan is not living of the back of a Father Ted episode, he was well established as a comedian before then.
Irish people get the piss taken out of us by stand ups and comedy shows constantly but most of us laugh about it. I'm sure most Polish people would laugh at humour aimed at them too. (maybe laughing inside though, they rarely laugh at anything, I know a lot of Polish women whose face would crack if they smiled. Uh Oh, is that a racist comment or just a bit of a joke?)

seamusob · 02-04-2008 05:37PM

deisedevil wrote: »

I know a lot of Polish women whose face would crack if they smiled. Uh Oh, is that a racist comment or just a bit of a joke?

Like TT it's neither inherently racist or funny, just a bit dull.

02-04-2008 05:39PM

cooperguy wrote: »

Blatant satire is lost on some people I suppose.

I'm reminded of all the uproar caused by people who thought Ali G was slagging black people.

Morkarleth wrote: »

And as for his stuff on the mentally handicapped, he did it for the people and they found it hilarious and if they dont get offended by it then why the hell should you!!

They were too stupid too realise he was ripping the piss outta them, LDO.

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Seriously, anyone who finds this cocky dimwit noisy bastard funny must be retarded

The ironing is mucho delicio. Calling the fans of a controversial-because-of-jokes-about-spas comdian "retarded" is just taking the biscuit.

mossieh wrote: »

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I hope Tommy is reading this thread. It would be a shame if he missed all the advice on how to fix his act from the resident experts on live comedy performance...

Amen brother.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

He's from Navan. That's the way people from Navan have to communicate due to the large waxy deposits in their ears.

I won't leave ya hangin' *hi-five*

deisedevil · 02-04-2008 06:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The ironing is mucho delicio. Calling the fans of a controversial-because-of-jokes-about-spas comdian "retarded" is just taking the biscuit.
*hi-five*

Too funny.............. finding it hard to type. HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

AckwelFoley · 02-04-2008 06:50PM

kellybelly wrote: »

Naos I would reckon I am fairly confident with my understanding of the word 'popularity' thanks,
Morkaleth I'm sorry if it seemed peurile but then again this is coming from someone who reads comic strips on the Internet.

Is that you Raspberry?

mossieh · 03-04-2008 10:09AM

kellybelly wrote: »

Morkaleth I'm sorry if it seemed peurile but then again this is coming from someone who reads comic strips on the Internet.

KB, I like Tommy Tiernan and I like reading comic strips on the internet. What's wrong witth comic strips? Doonesbury, XKCD, Penny Arcade, Bloom County? That's some funny shít....

kellybelly · 03-04-2008 10:49AM

Mossieh there is absolutely nothing wrong with reading comic strips on the Internet.

To each their own.

However it is also my opinion that this recreational activity of reading such material one would associate with a younger generation.Now I would'nt presume or endeavor to suggest immaturity,I was merely making the point that for someone to remark to my comments as 'peurile' or imply my view may be childish after they rummage through their favourite collection of comics is quite amusing and horribly hypocritical.

Naos · 03-04-2008 02:53PM

kellybelly wrote:

You say that you have not purchased his DVD’s nor have you attended his shows however you are on the internet arguing about him, do you not concede that this in itself would contribute quite significantly to his popularity?

Popular [pop-yuh-ler] - adjective

Regarded with great favor, approval, or affection especially by the general public.

kellybelly · 03-04-2008 04:18PM

Thank you noas for your reply which was of little help and was completely unsuccessful in its attempt to add anything remotely constructive to the thread.

In reply to your obnoxious comment let me congratulate you on this admirable feat,it is commendable,the idea of you rummaging through the dictionary(with all them pages!) to find a word which we both perfectly understand only to inevitably fall short of completing the crucial task in hand...to make a point.

To counter your utterly expendable attempt I find myself compelled to edify you on the word 'popular'.Here are some synonyms of the word in question: 'Demanded','Successful','Sought-After','In-vogue' and 'Well-known'.

Would you argue that Tommy Tiernan is not all of the above?

Perhaps you can consult your dictionary again?

I realy don't think you have any case here,Tommy Tiernan has proven himself time and time again.Funny or not he is popular.

Your idea of popularity is seriously warped and I think the thousands of people who have queued up already this year to see him would agree,I believe the 100th show of the tour is actually this week,when you think that the average at each show is between 1000-1500 people thats not bad for someone who is just not popular.Is it?

All these people surely would take time out of their lives to see someone who as you say is not popular,would they?

Take a look at the figures,whether you find him funny or not the sheer mass of people give the real picture.

End of.

Tommy Tiernan

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