Standing For the National Anthem(in the pub)

CCCP^ · 26-03-2008 11:38PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Whats the point in standing up in the pub at the end of the night in the pub for the national anthem? Is there anybody out there with a logical answer?

I'm all for standing up for it at sporting events etc. showing a little respect and national pride is all well and good in the right circumstances, but who ever thought it was a good idea to get it going after a good ol knees up down the pub. I can't help but feel it serves the exact opposite purpose of what it's supposed to, it's just crap and embarrasing at this stage basically.

I don't stand up, unless I'm standing already....but I stay quiet for the duration, and maybe if I'm watching a football match, I'll give a clap.

IanCurtis · 27-03-2008 12:11AM

Wertz wrote: »

In case you're not a troll;
How were these two lads, in the country for 6 months, to know of our backward ways, espeially after a bath full of vodka each and who knows what else?
I didn't take it as being disrespectful...it's just ignorance and drunkeness.....

Oh well that's ok then, for a minute there I thought they were immigrants looking for work in Ireland....I didn't realise they were just here to get pissed and ignore local traditions.

:rolleyes:

Wertz · 27-03-2008 12:15AM

Ah so you are a troll. Fine. Carry on...

Dudess · 27-03-2008 12:16AM

I really don't believe you're serious - you seem too intelligent.

So if you're just trying to piss people off (i.e. trolling) I'd suggest you stop.

IanCurtis · 27-03-2008 12:20AM

Yes I'm a troll. My points are all invalid. Wertz (5,800 posts) is right. My apologies.

Mossy Monk · 27-03-2008 12:26AM

monkeyfudge wrote: »

And you're treated as some sort of social recluse if you don't get up and put your arms around everyone else's shoulders.

Social Recluse > Sweaty Moron.

randylonghorn · 27-03-2008 12:27AM

IanCurtis wrote: »

Yes I'm a troll. My points are all invalid. Wertz (5,800 posts) is right. My apologies.

You are assuming ofc that two pished Polish guys even recognised the national anthem, especially given the appalling versions that tend to be blasted through the speakers in clubs when they insist on playing it.

Wertz · 27-03-2008 12:28AM

My post count has nothing to do with it...your tone has.

You advocate sacking and deporting two youngsters for not knowing our national anthem whilst drunk and having a good time? Would you know the polish national anthem if you happened to be in Krakow and it came on in some local cathouse at 9am (ie. in an inapt place at an inapt time)? I know I wouldn't...and I certainly wouldn't expect anyone but the indigenous people to know local inbred customs...

Dudess · 27-03-2008 12:46AM

IanCurtis wrote: »

Yes I'm a troll. My points are all invalid. Wertz (5,800 posts) is right. My apologies.

I wouldn't have taken you for one of those generally thick-as-two-planks "be respectful to our national anthem especially if you're foreign" types, hence my view that you're just trying to wind people up, all the more compounded by the fact that Wertz explained in great detail the circumstances.

As for this assumed preference for those with a high number of posts, oh just give me a break. It's remarkably childish and paranoid to think that Boards is some sort of exclusive "club" where the more posts you have to your name, the more you'll be taken seriously. Admittedly you'll become more well known but then, that's nobody's fault.

The only other people I can think of who think those with high post counts somehow enjoy favouritism (:rolleyes:) are Peter Collins, one of the most annoying trolls ever, and that gobshyte who started a thread about Pighead recently which ended up in the Thunderdome. Presumably that was Peter Collins re-registering because he also had an obsession with Pighead.

Seriously, I've seen other posts by you. You're better than that...

Run_to_da_hills · 27-03-2008 12:54AM

As a DJ I at a private party in a Tipperary pub I was requested to repeat the National Anthem three times in succession by the bar manager because some customers were talking and would not stand to attention, they eventually got the hint!.

stovelid · 27-03-2008 01:00AM

I've only ever seen it a dischos down the country, never in Dublin.

I'd stand at a sporting event, but I would go out of my way not to in a pub.

Dudess · 27-03-2008 01:01AM

You'd deserve to get the livin shoite bait outta ya wit hurleys ya big queer!

stovelid · 27-03-2008 01:03AM

Dudess wrote: »

You'd deserve to get the livin shoite bait outta ya wit hurleys ya big queer!

I'll take that h out of disco. Please spare me....

Peyton Manning · 27-03-2008 01:07AM

I never stand for our National Anthem cos I think Maniac 2000 is a sh1te song.

Sherifu · 27-03-2008 01:09AM

Archimedes wrote: »

I never stand for our National Anthem cos I think Maniac 2000 is a sh1te song.

Treason!

M-A-N-I-A-C

Ickle Magoo · 27-03-2008 01:12AM

I've never heard the Irish National Anthem played at the end of the night in a pub/club in Dublin or "down the country"...I'll be listening out for it now. :cool:

Dudess · 27-03-2008 01:16AM

No doubt it's a very Irish thing. There's an Irish pub in Kilburn where, apparently, if you don't stand for the national anthem, the bouncers/bar staff/management will take you out the back and kick the living sh1t out of you...

"All this drinking, violence, destruction of property... Are these the things we think of when we think of the Irish?"

Wertz · 27-03-2008 01:20AM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

I've never heard the Irish National Anthem played at the end of the night in a pub/club in Dublin or "down the country"...I'll be listening out for it now. :cool:

Fortunately it's a tradition that is in steep decline. Prior to club culture arriving in Ireland, early to mid 90's, it was almost assured that it'd be played at the end of the night in any nightclub/disco I ever went to/worked in.
I think it harks back to the days of the showbands and sit down dinner dances....the trick being to make everyone stand when the fun's over so you can corral them towards the exit doors...
"Are we right there folks PLEASE!" etc

Ickle Magoo · 27-03-2008 01:28AM

Awww, I was looking forward to watching everyone stand (or sway) hands on hearts & yell-sing that way that only drunks can, lol.

Wertz · 27-03-2008 01:34AM

You might get lucky and end up in pub/club in the shticks some night with the "right" DJ, where you can witness the horror of people "singing" what they think are the right words and only knowing the first 2 and last 2 lines (and sometimes in english! :mad: ) whilst they stand with their hands behind their backs...

Dudess · 27-03-2008 01:35AM

Wertz wrote: »

You might get lucky and end up in pub/club in the shticks some night with the "right" DJ, where you can witness the horror of people "singing" what they think are the right words and only knowing the first 2 and last 2 lines (and sometimes in english! :mad: ) whilst they stand with their hands behind their backs...

lol... so true. Muppets.

invincibleirish · 27-03-2008 01:36AM

Dudess wrote: »

I've only experienced it once. A couple of mates were over in Cork from England and they really wanted to go to a pub that played trad music. So we were gonna head to a crusty-ish place that has sean-nós singing and the like (e.g. An Spailpin Fánach or An Cruiscin Lán for those of you from Cork). But then one of the group spotted a poster advertising trad music that night in a particular chavvy, flash knacker pub (won't say the name) so we went there out of laziness and cos it was raining and in November (it was much nearer than the other places). Big mistake. The "repertoire" was more rebel song than trad and the band were even yelling "Ooh ah! Up the Ra!" etc. I felt so embarrassed and awkward that I couldn't even look at the English lads. And of course the other customers were just obnoxious scobes.
Anyhoo, naturally the national anthem kicked in at the end. I was so appalled at the band there was absolutely no way I was gonna stand up (not that I would anyway, but this really took the biscuit). Oh the looks I got! And even from my mates (they were just worried about my safety). Couldn't bring myself to do it though. I thought it was utterly disgusting. I didn't get assaulted... but that's cos my mates grabbed me and we ran.

Sounds like establishments on or just off Barrack St. to me

Dudess · 27-03-2008 01:39AM

No, I said it's a flash pub. Would you honestly call those dives in the Barrack Street vicinity "flash"?

Plus, tough and all as I try to act, I probably would stand in one of those places - out of sheer fear! And I wouldn't bring English people to them...

Xavi6 · 27-03-2008 01:44AM

Archimedes wrote: »

I never stand for our National Anthem cos I think Maniac 2000 is a sh1te song.

How DARE you!

I wonder how many people know more of the words of Maniac than they do of the national anthem! Quite a lot I'd say!

invincibleirish · 27-03-2008 01:59AM

Dudess wrote: »

No, I said it's a flash pub. Would you honestly call those dives in the Barrack Street vicinity "flash"? Plus, tough and all as I try to act, I probably would stand in one of those places - out of sheer fear! And I wouldn't bring English people to them...

My bad, saw Spailpin & Cruiscin in your post and assumed it was that area. Barrack St. aint that bad anymore, lots of students in those pubs,however pubs on Tower st & Friars walk are a different kettle of fish.

KamiKazi · 27-03-2008 02:05AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

As a DJ I at a private party in a Tipperary pub I was requested to repeat the National Anthem three times in succession by the bar manager because some customers were talking and would not stand to attention, they eventually got the hint!.

hahahahahahah

Was the bar manager wearing a celtic jersey by any chance?

Run_to_da_hills · 27-03-2008 02:15AM

KamiKazi wrote: »

hahahahahahah

Was the bar manager wearing a celtic jersey by any chance?

Didn't notice but if he was he was probably wearing a "sniper at work" T shirt under it

df1985 · 27-03-2008 03:55AM

ive stood up for it but its only a drunk thing.a few of the "country pubs" in dublin do it.quinns in drumcondra and sometimes copper face jacks.have heard in country places a good bit.im usually attemptin to dance at the end of a night anyway so standing still can be difficult.

also last summer i was in san diego on part of a J1.on a wednesday all the irish students go down to tijuana in mexico for irish night to get hammered.the mexicans didnt realise it was the national anthem, they seemed to think it was just a popular irish song so it gets played about 5 times durin the night!! hearing it come on in mexico between some R&B songs with about 1000 other completely ****ed irish students is quite an experience!

ibh · 27-03-2008 10:12AM

Got attacked in a little village up in Co Down after not participating in the National Anthem at the end of the night in the pub. The thing about it was, we weren't even in the same part of the pub as where the music was being played. Didn't even recognise the anthem. Something about saving Queen. Didn't even sound like Freddie!

There was about 10 of us there, spent a fortune in the bar and the staff politely rounded up about 30 local scumbags to wait outside with bottles while they let us out 3 at a time.

I used to work in a hotel that had lots of weddings in it and the anthem was regularly played. Not sure whether it was by the request of the families or the DJ's own initiative. Some of the staff stopped work to stand for the anthem. Now i did find that a bit of a joke, considering it could be played 3 times a week evry week.

chopperbyrne · 27-03-2008 10:51AM

I don't know the words to our national anthem.

Every class in my primary school were always taught it in 2nd class, but our second class teacher was from up north and didn't know it so 30 odd of us never learnt it.

Standing For the National Anthem(in the pub)

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