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Bring back the miles signs on the road?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,588 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Nah, stick with what we have now. We spent enough money changing it would be a waste to spend it all over again. I quite like km's myself. Those who love the old measurements so much can still use them if they wish. Pretty sure the State is going metric though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    I started school on 1987 and we were never taught any imperial measurements.

    So for at least the last 21 years all children in this country have been taught using the metric system. It makes no sense to go back and nothing in this country should be sold with imperial measurements on it.

    I started in 1991. We still refer to a persons height in feet and inches. Distance by miles. I know how many stone and pounds I weigh, **** knows how many kilos I am. And getting rid of imperial means getting rid of pints! I cant recall whether a 500ml can of beer is more or less than a pint (slightly less IIRC, I drink straight so havent poured a can into a pint glass in a while) but you can bet your left leg that if pubs were told to start serving in half litre glasses we would get shafted for price/quantity of beer somewhere.

    Anyway dont they still weigh newborns on the old system?


  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    shane86 wrote: »
    Anyway dont they still weigh newborns on the old system?
    No! they weigh in kilo's and tell the parents the imperial equivalent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭robinph


    I started school on 1987 and we were never taught any imperial measurements.

    So for at least the last 21 years all children in this country have been taught using the metric system. It makes no sense to go back and nothing in this country should be sold with imperial measurements on it.

    How tall are you?
    How much do you weigh?
    What is your waist?
    etc...

    Note, we don't actually need an answer to those questions, just what unit of measurement is used.

    I don't have a problem with buying my beer in metric though, but only if they start serving it by the full litre, otherwise I'll stick with my 568ml thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,105 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    Metric all the way - use it for weight, height and length.

    What worries me more is the different paper sizes the US and Canada have in relation to the rest of the world - no A4/5/3/2/1 paper, there's "legal size" etc. etc. Came as a bit of a shock to me that the US don't use the standard paper sizes...


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    'Smiles' ;)
    beleaguered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,157 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    I see wishbone got here before me with 'Smiles'..
    7 months before you! :eek:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_(unit_of_length)
    In 1958 the United States and countries of the Commonwealth of Nations defined the length of the international yard to be 0.9144 metres. Consequently, the international foot is defined to be equal to 0.3048 metres (equivalent to 304.8 millimetres).

    The United States survey foot is defined as exactly 1200⁄3937 metres, approximately 0.30480061 m. It is used in connection with surveying and mapping. It is exactly 1,000,000 / 999,998 times the international foot and thus 610 nm greater than the international foot.

    Within the legislation, the U.S. Survey Foot was specified in 11 states and the International Foot was specified in 6 states. In all other states the meter is the only referenced unit of measure in the SPCS 83 legislation. The remaining 19 states do not yet have any legislation concerning SPCS 83

    not forgetting that the original imperial foot was different to both


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Most cyclists went metric ages ago.
    It's easy to work out distances and times when your average speed is 10kmph / 15kmph / 20kmph / 25kmph

    mph is a lot messier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    mph is a lot messier
    No its not, If it was America would have gone metric years ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,157 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Does anyone know why tyres are measured in both metric and imperial?

    e.g. my car tyre size is 225/55/16

    -225 milimetres wide
    -55% profile (i.e. side wall height is 55% of 225mm)
    -16 inches in diameter


  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't forget the Irish country mile ;)
    A country mile is an exaggerated distance. Mile is from the Latin for 1,000 paces [mille passuum] and has become standardized in English as 1,760 yards. The term "country mile" may be by analogy to a nautical mile (one minute of a great circle of the earth; fixed at 6,080 feet), an Irish mile (2,240 yards), a Scottish mile (various, including 1,976 yards), or it may be because the winding character of many country roads requires a long distance to be traversed in order to travel a mile as the crow flies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    No its not, If it was America would have gone metric years ago.
    Without a calculator, and within 10 seconds:

    How many yards in 52.567 miles?

    QED.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    shane86 wrote: »
    And getting rid of imperial means getting rid of pints! I cant recall whether a 500ml can of beer is more or less than a pint (slightly less IIRC, I drink straight so havent poured a can into a pint glass in a while) but you can bet your left leg that if pubs were told to start serving in half litre glasses we would get shafted for price/quantity of beer somewhere.

    a pint is 568ml. we should of course keep pints but everything else should change to metric :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,575 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    seamus wrote: »
    Without a calculator, and within 10 seconds:

    How many yards in 52.567 miles?

    QED.

    Depends, would they be imperial miles, standard miles or international miles?:rolleyes:

    Interesting that the old schoolers now base their definition of a yard as a proportion of a metre.
    The most commonly used yard today is the international yard which by definition is equal to 0.9144 metre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    Why do we still measure penises in inches? And do kids these days talk about girth in cm rather than inches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It's about time we fully embraced the metric system especially with all the Polish in the country. They all work in grams and it can be confusing. One guys selling in quarter and eights of an ounce and they're selling in grams.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    a pint is 568ml. we should of course keep pints but everything else should change to metric :)
    There are 4 quarts in a gallon and two pints in a quart.
    Gallons of various sizes have been used in Europe ever since Roman times. In the United States, the liquid gallon is legally defined as exactly 231 cubic inches; this is equal to the old English wine gallon, which originated in medieval times but was not standardized until 1707, during the reign of Queen Anne. Some scholars believe the wine gallon was originally designed to hold 8 troy pounds of wine. The U. S. gallon holds 4 liquid quarts or exactly 3.785 411 784 liters; a U.S. gallon of water weighs about 8.33 pounds. American colonists were also familiar with the Elizabethan beer and ale gallon, which held 282 cubic inches (4.621 liters).

    - a historic British unit of dry volume still used implicitly in the U.S. In the U.S., the term "gallon" is not used in dry measure, but if it were it would be equal to 1/2 peck, or 4 dry quarts, or 268.8025 cubic inches, or approximately 4.404 884 liters. This unit is the English corn or grain gallon, standardized during the reign of Elizabeth I in the sixteenth century. The earliest official definition of a dry gallon in Britain is a 1303 proclamation of Edward I, where the gallon is defined as the volume of 8 pounds of wheat; the current U.S. "gallon" contains about 7.5 pounds of wheat. Grain gallons have tended to be larger than liquid gallons throughout the history of British units, apparently because they were based on heaped rather than "struck" (leveled) containers. A container in which grain has been heaped above the top will hold as much as 25% more grain, and the traditional corn gallon is in fact 16.4% larger than the wine gallon.
    gallon (gal) [3]

    Currently the British use a larger gallon than either of the American gallons. The Imperial Weights and Measures Act of 1824 established a new unit for all volumes, liquid or dry, replacing all the other gallons in previous use in Britain. The imperial gallon, designed to contain exactly 10 pounds of distilled water under precisely defined conditions, holds exactly 4.546 09 liters or approximately 277.4194 cubic inches. The imperial gallon equals 1.20095 U.S. liquid gallons (British wine gallons) or 1.03206 U.S. dry gallons (British corn gallons).
    gallon (gal) [4]

    Gallon a traditional unit of volume in Scotland equal to 4 Scots quarts. This is almost exactly 3 British Imperial gallons, 3.6 U.S. liquid gallons, or 13.63 liters.

    While pints are the same here and in the UK, the measure of spirits are different sizes


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFF_System
    [B]furlong 	[/B]length 	1/8 of a mile 	201.168 m
    [B]firkin [/B]		mass 	9 Imperial gallons of water; 90.20172 lb 	40.91481 kg
    [B]fortnight 	[/B]time 	14 days 	1,209,600 seconds
    


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    when the Romans lef Britian there were 5,000 feet in a mile.

    In the US the timescale goes like this
    original foot
    1790 - UK make standard yard
    1832 - foot based on a bar purchased in 1813 - may be based on 1790 yard ?
    1824 - UK redefine the foot
    1834 - UK yard bar destroyed
    1855 - ne w UK bar, us get a copy
    1866 - meter defined in feet ( this fixes the US foot to the meter)
    1959 - foot re-defined in terms of the meter, apart from the US gelogical survey who make all the maps




    King Edward II, in 1324, reverted back to the seed concept of the ancients and passed a statute that "three barleycorns, round and dry," make an inch.

    In 1824, the English Parliament legalized a new standard yard which had been made in 1760. It was a brass bar containing a gold button near each end. A dot was engraved in each of these two buttons. These two dots were spaced exactly 1 yard apart. The same act that legalized this bar as the standard for England also made the provision that, in the event it was lost or destroyed, it should be replaced using the pendulum method to determine its length.

    In spite of repeated requests in Congress, there was no legal length standard in the U.S. until 1832. More or less authentic copies of the British copies of the yard were used as length prototypes. In 1832, the Treasury Department decided to admit as a legal Yard the distance between the lines 27 and 63 of a certain bronze bar, 82 inches in length, bought in 1813 in England for the Federal Survey Department. When the British yard bar, which was destroyed in 1834, was replaced in 1855, a new bronze copy No. 11 was sent to the United States which became the legal American Yard Standard.

    Congress passed a Bill in 1866 which permitted use of the metric system of measurement in the United States. The value for the metre was given as: 1 metre = 39.37 inches

    1959 - Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, the United Kingdom, and the United States adopted common standards for the inch-pound system in metric terms. One inch was made equivalent to 2.54 centimetres. ... The Coast and Geodetic Survey, which had used a slightly different conversion factor previously, retained their established relationship of 1 inch equaling 2.540.005 centimetres because of the extensive revisions which would be necessary to their charts and measurement records. The resulting foot based on this retained conversion is known as the U.S. Survey foot.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I measure exclusively in pixels these days.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I measure exclusively in pixels these days.
    96 dpi ??


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