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Bottles & Glasses; time to go...?

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  • #32
    DetectivFoxtrot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭DetectivFoxtrot


    /Wertz
    My dad is an alchoholic and there's a lot of it in my family too but it has never led to violence or bottling people - they're two different things in my book...It does put you off drinking tho, I deffo agree with that. My dad has a liver illness so drinking for him is detrimental to his health - yet he can't stop - sad really.....

    I drink regularly but in moderation - maybe a small glass of wine or beer every second evening. I love that one drink just to unwind after a tough day - I'm having a Heineken now for example, I'll only have the one though.. I rarely get drunk though and hate binge drinking - it makes people lose control and all sense of reason. I have a friend who won't touch a drop during the week but she goes mental at the weekend - it ruins her Sunday, she forgets half the things she did and she looks in rag order for days after, yet if you asked her she'd tell you that I'm the alchholic! lol. I don't go out with her anymore because I hate how the night ends up,s omeone puking or crying! - I firmly believe regular small amounts are much better that bingeing - like in Europe where it is more of a social/family/dinner event and not necessarily to get sloshed) - again it's a culture thing that I fear will never change in this country....

    Dammit I'm moving to France!;)


  • #33
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    No no, I never said alcoholism is a factor in violence or glassing, I only mentioned alcoholism as another downside to alcohol itself.
    Most people can go out and not drink on an alcoholic scale...but some of those same people can go off out and stick a glass in someone's face after a skinful. Then there are plenty of alcoholics who can go off out get drunk (for the third time that day) and not bother a soul (well, in a physically violent manner).
    I'm sure there are some violent alcos out there...but the problem is bigger than that.
    You'll never change the culture....I'm reminded of that one Family Guy clip where Peter and Chris go to the Irish museum and they look at the clip of ancient Ireland where everything's futuristic like the Jetsons, until one bright spark invents whiskey and the whole place decends into one big melée.
    Youtube doesn't have the clip :(


  • #34
    cornbb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Glasses don't glass people, scumbags do!

    Bang on the money.

    It sucks that there's broken glass all over the place the morning after a night like Paddy's night but I'd hate to drink beer out of a plastic bottle/glass or buy wine out of anything but a glass bottle.


  • #35
    DetectivFoxtrot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭DetectivFoxtrot


    Wertz wrote: »
    No no, I never said alcoholism is a factor in violence or glassing, I only mentioned alcoholism as another downside to alcohol itself.
    Most people can go out and not drink on an alcoholic scale...but some of those same people can go off out and stick a glass in someone's face after a skinful. Then there are plenty of alcoholics who can go off out get drunk (for the third time that day) and not bother a soul (well, in a physically violent manner).
    I'm sure there are some violent alcos out there...but the problem is bigger than that.
    You'll never change the culture....I'm reminded of that one Family Guy clip where Peter and Chris go to the Irish museum and they look at the clip of ancient Ireland where everything's futuristic like the Jetsons, until one bright spark invents whiskey and the whole place decends into one big melée.
    Youtube doesn't have the clip :(

    lol - I know the clip! I have the 16 dvd boxset!;)


  • #36
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    cornbb wrote: »
    Bang on the money.

    It sucks that there's broken glass all over the place the morning after a night like Paddy's night but I'd hate to drink beer out of a plastic bottle/glass or buy wine out of anything but a glass bottle.
    I think that even if I were in the position of what to ban, wine out of glass bottles would be saved. It's bloody awful from plastic or those boxes.
    Beer on the other hand....I enjoy a beer as much from a can as I do from bottle or glass, and when I've drank it from plastic containers it's been grand too. I just fail to se the need for 24 packs of 330ml bottles to be sold for 20 quid when cans do the exact same thing, except without the resultant waste, mess and potential for use as a weapon.
    DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »
    lol - I know the clip! I have the 16 dvd boxset!;)

    Good stuff. I hate when people don't get my references...or think worse of me for citing FG as referrrable material in a serious discussion...


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  • #37
    BaZmO*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    stovelid wrote: »
    Good point, but people are more likely to blindly hit someone with a glass to hand, then run off and find a free bar stool to smack someone with. :)
    I was actually attacked with a table and and couple of barstools in a club years ago, or at least that's what I was told afterwards, I didn't remember much about it tbh other than I was trying to stop a fight.

    stovelid wrote: »
    They're also not likely to be outside the pub with a barstool in their pocket.
    Very true. I was hit outside a pub with a beer bottle, luckily enough it didn't smash but it did break my cheekbone in 2 places. And guess what? I was trying to break up a fight that time too. :rolleyes: As Homer says, "Never help anyone!"


  • #38
    stovelid
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    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I was actually attacked with a table and and couple of barstools in a club years ago, or at least that's what I was told afterwards, I didn't remember much about it tbh other than I was trying to stop a fight.

    Very true. I was hit outside a pub with a beer bottle, luckily enough it didn't smash but it did break my cheekbone in 2 places. And guess what? I was trying to break up a fight that time too. :rolleyes: As Homer says, "Never help anyone!"

    Where do you drink? Just so I can avoid standing next to you. :p

    Seriously though: that's rotten. At least the bottle didn't break.


  • #39
    BaZmO*
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    stovelid wrote: »
    Where do you drink? Just so I can avoid standing next to you. :p
    Well I'd actually probably be the safest person to stand next to as I've learned not to get involved when trouble starts! :D


  • #40
    slipss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    I'd be for getting rid of the glass. I always had to laugh when i was younger and used to frequent a pretty rough pub that used to search peiople for weapons on the way in and then sit you down at a table then deliver to you pint glasses, glass bottles and B&H ashtrays that felt like they weighed over kilo. As far as saying its not the glasses fault its the scumbag wielding it, well obviously, but if a fight breaks out in a pub or a club between a bunch of p1ssed up people they tend to grab whatevers to hand, which tends to be a glass. As far as the enviromental concerns others seem to have about using plastic, well, plastic is recyclable and glass production i would imagine does its own share of damage to the environment.


  • #41
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I've seen people throw barstools in a pub when a fight has broken out, should barstools be banned also?

    Nope, just ban everyone and anyone from entering the bar in the first place.

    Is this really the typical mood of people in Ireland today? I mean, I've seen loads of threads about the crime and such but replacing glass in bars due to too many people using them as weapons just seems unreal to me (who doesn't live in Ireland).


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