Failed victims of initial hype/over-expectation

Sqaull20 · 19-03-2008 02:29AM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Joaquín

Was brilliant at Betis and has done nothing since he joined Valencia.

He's a winger and he only got 5 assists in over 40 games last season.

Unlike Ronaldo, he didn't pitch in with goals every second game though!

Ftw...

Honestly thought that guy would be a world beater, next Figo if you like, he had world class pace, great touch and was strong as a bull...

Ronaldo's the player he should have been alright...

Syke · 19-03-2008 02:34AM

Helix wrote: »

ive heard from someone who scouts for an unnamed english side that dixon wasnt that good, injuries aside, and that he was just massively blown out of all proportion by the irish media

We're getting as bad as the English. I reckon you could field about 3 teams of failed Irish players who were hyped by the media in the last 5-6 years.

Muff_Daddy · 19-03-2008 02:38AM

Syke wrote: »

Practically any young English player, ever.

Lampard and Terry at international level.

Stokes (in contrast I think Walcott has done well, noone expected him to play at the WC).

Graham Barrett

Stephen McPhail

Kevin Phillips

god, how long have you got?

The same Kevin Phillips who was rejected by Southamption as a young right back, went to the mighty Baldock Town where he became a striker and worked his way up the football league to become the European Golden Boot winner, and is currently the top scorer in the Championship?

Or do you mean another Kevin Phillips?

Syke · 19-03-2008 02:45AM

Muff_Daddy wrote: »

Or do you mean another Kevin Phillips?

No, I mean the Kevin Phillips that was touted as the new Shearer, was destined for International glory and was supposedly one of the best strikers in England.

Phillips success at Sunderland had more to do with Quinn and the wingers than anything else.

Muff_Daddy · 19-03-2008 02:57AM

Syke wrote: »

No, I mean the Kevin Phillips that was touted as the new Shearer, was destined for International glory and was supposedly one of the best strikers in England.

Phillips success at Sunderland had more to do with Quinn and the wingers than anything else.

Yes, but the question here is 'failed victims of INITIAL hype' (eg Cassano, Denilson) INITIALLY, Kevin Phillips was deemed only good enough to play for BALDOCK TOWN (what league do they even play in), and went on to become the top scorer in Europe. He is an example of the polar oppisite of what the thread asks. In fact, if you asked me to name one player who carved out a successful career from nothing, I would most certainly say Kevin Phillips.

I-Bleed-White · 19-03-2008 09:56AM

I'll need help with this one because he turned out so poor i've actually forgotten his name but does anyone remember the young Everton striker in the 90's Danny Cam..ra...something, drawing a blank. Young black guy with ropey dreads was touted as the next big thing then quickly dissappeared into mediocrity.

Peyton Manning · 19-03-2008 09:57AM

Danny Cadamarteri, plays with Huddersfield afaik.

I-Bleed-White · 19-03-2008 10:12AM

Archimedes wrote: »

Danny Cadamarteri, plays with Huddersfield afaik.

Thank you that was annoying..also for differant reasons Terry Dixon. Included in the senior Irish team at 16...highly reguarded at Spurs and winner of some young Irish talent accolade only recently had to quit football because his knee is gone. I know it is slightly differant as it is not an under performing comparison but I was really looking forward to see this guy perform on the big stage.

smackbunnybaby · 19-03-2008 10:17AM

i remember in the Premier League Sticker album they had the next big things as being:

Darren Caskey and Ian Selley.

Leeds had two great strikers in Jamie Cureton and Jamie Forster in their youth team. They did have good runs in the lower divisions but i think more was expected of them.

Richie Humphries for Sheffield Wednesday as Helix said. Another fella at Wednesday was Steve Haslam - future England centre back :-)

_blank_ · 19-03-2008 11:38AM

The Irish underage teams that won trophies under Kerr.

Helix · 19-03-2008 12:00PM

Syke wrote: »

We're getting as bad as the English

dont cod yourself, we've always been as bad as the english, if not worse

its gas when irish people moan about the english going on about what theyve won, wed be the same except far far worse, and at least theyve actually won something so have a bit of justification in it

can you imagine we won the world cup? jesus christ wed be going on about it hundreds of years in the future. you think mottys bad? can you imagine the irish media every time a paddy kicked a ball in anger?

Bubs101 · 19-03-2008 01:12PM

Seaneh wrote: »

Nicola Pozi, Milan paid something like €11million for him, Think he played about 10 league games, haven't a clue where he is now.

Marco Boriello, same as Pozi, used to be ****e but seems to be doing alright now, 2nd top scorer in Italy at the min, Will probably be back at milan next season.

I think Pozi is at Empoli but I'm not 100% sure.Needless to say a dissapointment but I always thought that the only reason Boriello was released was because he failed the drug test. This is his first season of proper first team football and he's grabbed it by the balls so I don't think he was ever considered a failure. Players aren't expected to jump into the first team immediately in Italy and at 24 he's done grand

Nalz · 19-03-2008 02:49PM

Zinadine Zidane - couldnt even header an Italian right

DesF wrote: »

The Irish underage teams that won trophies under Kerr.

yeah Shaun Byrne, George, Galvin etc

Failed victims of initial hype/over-expectation

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