Top 10 rivalries

dobsdave · 14-03-2008 01:26AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

if Dougal said it, it must be true!

Jesus thats gre at ted.

But seriously though, Dougal did say it.

Jazzy · 14-03-2008 01:29AM

Ross Kemp would sort them all out tbh

Xavi6 · 14-03-2008 03:22AM

Any read this month's FourFourTwo? Great article about the Mansfield/Chesterfield rivalry that stems from the coal industry collapse in the 80s. They loathe each other.

ciaran76 · 14-03-2008 09:38AM

ironingbored wrote: »

When a pig's head is thrown onto the pitch at a Bohs vs Rovers game I'll agree with you.

ha ha ha that gave me a good laugh this morning , thank you.;)

ciaran76 · 14-03-2008 09:40AM

SectionF wrote: »

Have you ever been at a Dublin derby?

Maybe he meant Pighead ?

When Pighead is thrown onto the pitch at a Bohs vs Rovers game I'll agree with you. !!!! lol

I-Bleed-White · 14-03-2008 10:08AM

Jazzy wrote: »

Ross Kemp would sort them all out tbh

Ross Kemp can't even sort out his own missus..

_blank_ · 14-03-2008 10:10AM

Lads.

Biggest rivalry in world football, a history so chequered that the fans of both clubs have to be physically restrained so the absolute hatred cannot be transformed into violence, death and worse.

Istanbul? pfft, kiddies playground stuff.

Glasgae? Get to be real, bunch of nancy boys.

Rotterdam/Amsterdam? Skinhead poofs.

Split/Zagreb? They'd all be hiding.

No lads.

The greatest derby in world football today.

Shelbourne vs Sporting Fingal.

'Ave It.

Mr Alan · 14-03-2008 10:19AM

Your like the irish danny dyer aint ya des!?

pd101 · 14-03-2008 10:21AM

dobsdave wrote: »

Didn't dougal (Fr Ted) do a RTE series about the worldwide rivalries.
South America and Turkey were the worst as far as I recall.

Yeah, the Athens derby was fairly mad as well.

_blank_ · 14-03-2008 10:22AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Your like the irish danny dyer aint ya des!?

Danny Dyer, that bloke off Eastenders, Chopper Read and DesF.

I actually live on Green Street.

Mr Alan · 14-03-2008 10:31AM

you're like the little hobbit getting shown the ropes

Fratton Fred · 14-03-2008 10:45AM

rossie1977 wrote: »

how are we to define the biggest rivalries??

Liverpool/Man utd is the biggest rivalry in england but in terms of pure hatred it has nothing on chelsea/millwall (or millwall anybody for that matter ) or wolves/west brom

Liverpool/Man U is a big rivalry because they are two big clubs and sure Scousers and Mancs don;t get on well either but how many Mancunians support Man United:rolleyes:. There isn't the level of tribalism you would get at a Villa/Brum, Norwich/Ipswich or Pompey/Southampton game. These games are usually midday kick ofs on the instruction of the Police as much as Sky.

For Man United, you need to look at Leeds, who see it as a war of the roses rivalry or Man City who see it as Mancunians v Quentin from Surrey rivalry.

Millwall don't have anything like the violent following they used to have, but West Ham v Millwall is a nasty one, North of the River v South of the River is a big thing in London. Millwall and Chelsea used to be pretty nasty but that was more to do with rival "Firms" than anything else, most of which, thankfully, has now gone.

Fratton Fred · 14-03-2008 11:01AM

eZe^ wrote: »

I disagree, some rivalries are about more than just the football.

That's my point.

I can only speak of my own derby against Southampton, but that involves a rivalry between the two cities. One a merchant port full of crack whores and sleaze, the other a glorious Naval Port created by Royal charter, full of tradition, class and glorious history;)

Pompey call Southampton Scum, the origins of this are disputed, but it is thought to date back to a general port workers strike when the Southampton Corporation Union Men broke the strike, forcing their Portsmouth brothers to cave in.

Southampton call Pompey "Skates" which is a local term for Sailors (Apparantly, when you have been at sea and not seen a woman for 6 months, a female skate can be a very good substitute:rolleyes:).

Pompey have all the history, won back to back league titles, held the FA cup for the longest, Southampton have very little history, but up until recently have been the more successful club in terms of league position. PLus the fact that the two clubs don;t play each other that often, so all the posturing etc gets pent up and only released rarely, which often boils over into trouble.

_blank_ · 14-03-2008 11:03AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

held the FA cup for the longest

wtf?

Because if a war ffs, not football.

Fratton Fred · 14-03-2008 11:18AM

DesF wrote: »

wtf?

Because if a war ffs, not football.

Read the rules, if the competition is not contested, the holder retains the cup.
Pompey have held the FA cup for the longest

(Tenuous I know, but who cares:p)

shoutman · 14-03-2008 11:20AM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Millwall don't have anything like the violent following they used to have, but West Ham v Millwall is a nasty one, North of the River v South of the River is a big thing in London. Millwall and Chelsea used to be pretty nasty but that was more to do with rival "Firms" than anything else, most of which, thankfully, has now gone.

I went to the Millwall V Bristol match last month (Don't ask), I was shocked at the fact that no one wears the Milwall Jersey, and I mean no one, Stone Island was definately the clothing of choice, the amount of police at the match was crazy too.
Also there was a bit of trouble after the match.... so I really dont think the hooli element of Millwall has gone anywhere, at least they show strong face anyway.

gucci · 14-03-2008 11:23AM

DesF wrote: »

Lads.

Biggest rivalry in world football, a history so chequered that the fans of both clubs have to be physically restrained so the absolute hatred cannot be transformed into violence, death and worse.

Istanbul? pfft, kiddies playground stuff.

Glasgae? Get to be real, bunch of nancy boys.

Rotterdam/Amsterdam? Skinhead poofs.

Split/Zagreb? They'd all be hiding.

No lads.

The greatest derby in world football today.

Shelbourne vs Sporting Fingal.

'Ave It.

I disagree......it has to be Galway Vs Mayo in the GAA :pac::pac:

bohsman · 14-03-2008 11:40AM

The Seville Derby

In 1909, disagreement among some majority of the board of directors led to a split from which the Betis team was born; later in 1914 Real Betis Balompié was founded from the union of Betis FC and Sevilla Balompié. The board had wanted to hire professional players, but in Sevilla none were paid, so it was decided to create a new team.

On October 8, 1915, the first Sevilla-Betis derby took place, ending with a 4-3 Sevilla victory. The cross-town rivalry is considered one of the most violent derbies in Spain. As of the 2006/2007 season, 77 Sevilla derbies have been played in La Liga, of which Sevilla FC won 35, Real Betis won 26, and 16 ended in a draw.

During a quarterfinal match of the Copa del Rey on February 28, 2007, at Estadio Manuel Ruiz de Lopera, the game had to be suspended in the 60th minute due to a Betis aficionado throwing an object at former Sevilla manager Juande Ramos' head, subsequently knocking him out. Ramos had to be removed from the pitch on a stretcher and the Sevilla footballers abandoned the pitch in protest. Betis were condemned to their next 3 home matches being played in another venue by the Spanish Football Federation.

Fratton Fred · 14-03-2008 01:22PM

shoutman wrote: »

I went to the Millwall V Bristol match last month (Don't ask), I was shocked at the fact that no one wears the Milwall Jersey, and I mean no one, Stone Island was definately the clothing of choice, the amount of police at the match was crazy too.
Also there was a bit of trouble after the match.... so I really dont think the hooli element of Millwall has gone anywhere, at least they show strong face anyway.

It's still there, but apparantly a lot of it is young chavs trying to live up to a reputation. I rememebr the visit of Millwall would involve mounted police escorting them off the train, all the pubs around the ground closed before and after the game and the Millwall fans locked in while the police cleared the home fans away from the ground. There is still a large police presence, but it used to be really bad.

From what I hear, Cardiff have picked up the mantle of most violent fans in the football league now.

Raekwon · 14-03-2008 02:11PM

bohsman wrote: »

The Seville Derby

Ah you beat me to it!

Didn't Real Betis play for a draw against Sevilla's relegation rivals on the final day of the 1996/97 season to relegate Sevilla?

joe123 · 14-03-2008 03:21PM

for worldwide you have to include some from brazil and argentina. I know boca juniors have a real serious rivalry with one of the other clubs over there.

LuckyLloyd · 14-03-2008 03:27PM

joe123 wrote: »

for worldwide you have to include some from brazil and argentina. I know boca juniors have a real serious rivalry with one of the other clubs over there.

River Plate

ROCKMAN · 14-03-2008 03:29PM

World biggest Derby (most dangerous )

Argentina
Boca Juniors v River Plate

eZe^ · 14-03-2008 08:21PM

bohsman wrote: »

a Betis aficionado throwing an object at former Sevilla manager Juande Ramos' head, subsequently knocking him out. Ramos had to be removed from the pitch on a stretcher.

An object makes it sound small, it was a big bottle filled with liquid. Absolutely vicious.

KdjaCL · 14-03-2008 08:25PM

This seasons Sevilla derby was a bit muted due to Puerta, but tbh the derby certainyl isnt helped by the chairmen who refuse to sit with each other and generally give each other abuse to fuel the hatred.

kdjac

eZe^ · 14-03-2008 08:26PM

Its eventful to say the least.

Especially since these days Betis are green with envy at how good Seville have become.

dor83 · 14-03-2008 09:18PM

I was at a match between Vasco and Flamengo a couple of years ago and I have to say its the only time I've ever been nervous at a football match. There was constant fighting outside the stadium and inside the athmosphere was extremely hostile.

I'd have to put the Rome derby up there too but like has been said most people are going to pick the one that matters most to them.

Sundy · 14-03-2008 09:46PM

kensutz wrote: »

From a poll done in the UK they did a list of the top 10 rivalries and here's the results.

#3 Liverpool and Manchester United

An over-rated rivilary. If one or both of the teams were unsuccesfull there would be no rivilary at all hardly.

Top 10 rivalries

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