Top 10 rivalries

kensutz · 13-03-2008 10:02PM #1

From a poll done in the UK they did a list of the top 10 rivalries and here's the results.

#1 West Bromwich Albion and Wolverhampton Wanderers

#2 Norwich City and Ipswich Town

#3 Liverpool and Manchester United

#4 Portsmouth and Southampton

#5 Cardiff City and Swansea City

#6 Aston Villa and Birmingham City

#7 Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday

#8 Bristol City and Bristol Rovers

#9 Newcastle United and Sunderland

#10 Brighton & Hove Albion and Crystal Palace.

KdjaCL · 13-03-2008 10:23PM

Only 2 are non city related unless Brighton and Palace are close

How come welsh teams in it but not scottish or is it only clubs in the pyramid?

kdjac

kensutz · 13-03-2008 10:26PM

I can't remember the exact reason behind the Palace and Brighton rivalry but when they were playing in Division 1, Sky were making a big deal of it. It was a UK poll so I'm not sure as to how it was conducted.

eirebhoy · 13-03-2008 10:31PM

McShane became a Brighton legend after scoring against Palace.

Villain · 13-03-2008 10:33PM

no Celtic and Rangers???

ironingbored · 13-03-2008 10:33PM

Top World Rivalries IMO:

#1 Barcelona vs Real Madrid

#2 Celtic vs Rangers

#3 AS Roma vs Lazio

#4 River Plate vs Boca

#5 Juventus vs Torino

#6 Juventus vs Inter (Derby of Italy

#7 Fenerbache vs Galatasaray

#8 Liverpool vs Man Utd

#9 Inter vs AC Milan

#10 Ajax vs Feyenoord

A Dub in Glasgo · 13-03-2008 10:35PM

That poll does not really instill confidence that it is worth the paper it is written on. Who done it? Sky?

Mr Alan · 13-03-2008 10:41PM

does anyone know if this poll was done with match going fans of the teams in question or wat? just any punter walking down the street who may or may not have a breeze about football?

ironingbored · 13-03-2008 10:41PM

By country (excluding small fry)

England: Liverpool vs Man Utd

Scotland: Celtic vs Rangers

Italy: Juventus vs Inter Milan

Spain: Barcelona vs Real Madrid

France: Marseille vs PSG

Portugal: Benfica vs Sporting

Holland: Ajax vs Feyenoord

Turkey: Galatasary vs Fenerbache

Pepe LeFrits · 13-03-2008 10:42PM

When did Eindhoven relocate to France?

invincibleirish · 13-03-2008 10:47PM

kensutz wrote: »

#6 Aston Villa and Birmingham City

Nothing glamourous about the second city derby just general brummy nastiness and chavness on the Blues side for the most part.

Not technically a Derby but the Derby of Italy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_d'Italia) for me always strikes as epic, certainly more Glamourous then Brum anyway.

OhNoYouDidn't · 13-03-2008 11:09PM

Rovers and Bohs is the biggest in Ireland.

Worldwide - Al Athy and Zamaelck in Cairo. Mayhem.

invincibleirish · 13-03-2008 11:14PM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Rovers and Bohs is the biggest in Ireland.

Worldwide - Al Athy and Zamaelck in Cairo. Mayhem.

Thats where the Egyptian FA have to bring in European Refs is it not? i think Collina & Poll and others have made an appearance in the past

thank 442 for where i got that info!

eZe^ · 13-03-2008 11:16PM

Good article on the biggest rivalry in world football;

http://www.channel4.com/sport/microsites/S/sportuncovered/barca.html

Fratton Fred · 13-03-2008 11:21PM

The biggest Derbies are your own.

Rangers and Celtic fans don't give a toss about Egypt, or Madrid just as Norwich and Ipswich don't give a monkey's chuff what goes on in Glasgow.

Just Because Barca and Real involve two big names, it doesn't mean it is anymore important to their fans than a Dublin Derby is to Bohs and Rovers fans.

OhNoYouDidn't · 13-03-2008 11:22PM

invincibleirish wrote: »

Thats where the Egyptian FA have to bring in European Refs is it not? i think Collina & Poll and others have made an appearance in the past

thank 442 for where i got that info!

yes, they reckon local refs will be in danger, so import them. a guy i work with is an al-athy fan and has gone home for the game. 100,000 fans split on political, class and religious lines. a muslim old firm in fact.

eZe^ · 13-03-2008 11:28PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

it doesn't mean it is anymore important to their fans than a Dublin Derby is to Bohs and Rovers fans.

I disagree, some rivalries are about more than just the football.

Gavin "shels" · 13-03-2008 11:29PM

ironingbored wrote: »

Top World Rivalries IMO:

#1 Barcelona vs Real Madrid

#2 Celtic vs Rangers

#3 AS Roma vs Lazio

#4 River Plate vs Boca

#5 Juventus vs Torino

#6 Juventus vs Inter (Derby of Italy

#7 Fenerbache vs Galatasaray

#8 Liverpool vs Man Utd

#9 Inter vs AC Milan

#10 Ajax vs Feyenoord

1, 2 8 and 10 must be pish takes.

You forgot:
Hajduk Split – Dinamo Zagreb
Cracovia – Wisla Krakow
Widzew Lodz - LKS Lodz
CSKA Moscow – Lokomotiv Moscow
Red Star Belgrade - FK Partizan

shoutman · 13-03-2008 11:32PM

West Ham V Millwall not be there somewhere?

therecklessone · 13-03-2008 11:32PM

kensutz wrote: »

#10 Brighton & Hove Albion and Crystal Palace.

I'm sorry, but that isn't even the biggest derby in Brighton...:D

No Spurs-Arsenal? Or Spurs-West Ham/Chelsea (certainly two of the liveliest in terms of policing)? Rangers-Celtic? Liverpool-Everton? Fcuk it, Millwall-QPR? Chelsea-Fulham?

And if we're allowed include non-city pairs...

Leeds-ManYoo? Aberdeen-Rangers?

therecklessone · 13-03-2008 11:45PM

Turns out this was done by Littlewoods (the Pools people)

Through the Football Fans Census we questioned almost 6,000 passionate football fans across all 92 League clubs, to identify who they thought were their biggest footballing rivals.

Having found out who those rivals were, we then asked why they were their biggest adversaries, to understand whether it was because:

* they are neighbours
* they have always been rivals, for whatever reason
* they're jealous, because their rivals have been more successful
* they meet regularly in the league
* or because the rivalry goes much deeper than football

Armed with those answers, our statisticians have put together a league table of the top rivalries using a complex formula based on:

* the survey responses of both sets of fans
* the respective league and cup records of the two clubs
* the regularity of league and cup meetings between the rivals
* the two clubs' records when playing each other
* the impact on attendances when they meet
* transfers between the clubs, and fans' reactions to those transfers
* off-the-field factors, such as media coverage of the rivalry

Explains the lack of Scottish sides (the Welsh sides all play in the Football League) but it still strikes me as a load of ****.

ironingbored · 13-03-2008 11:50PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The biggest Derbies are your own.

Rangers and Celtic fans don't give a toss about Egypt, or Madrid just as Norwich and Ipswich don't give a monkey's chuff what goes on in Glasgow.

Just Because Barca and Real involve two big names, it doesn't mean it is anymore important to their fans than a Dublin Derby is to Bohs and Rovers fans.

When a pig's head is thrown onto the pitch at a Bohs vs Rovers game I'll agree with you.

OhNoYouDidn't · 13-03-2008 11:57PM

ironingbored wrote: »

When a pig's head is thrown onto the pitch at a Bohs vs Rovers game I'll agree with you.

Like when we did this?

http://srfcultras.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=31

MrJoeSoap · 14-03-2008 12:02AM

ironingbored wrote: »

When a pig's head is thrown onto the pitch at a Bohs vs Rovers game I'll agree with you.

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Like when we did this?

http://srfcultras.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=31

Rofl. Caught rapid.

PS - "We"?

OhNoYouDidn't · 14-03-2008 12:03AM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Rofl. Caught rapid.

PS - "We"?

By 'we' I mean the bigger kids. Nothing to do with me at all. Honest.

KdjaCL · 14-03-2008 12:18AM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

By 'we' I mean the bigger kids. Nothing to do with me at all. Honest.

lol shams fan in admittance post.

mastercard dont do posts...

kdjac

OhNoYouDidn't · 14-03-2008 12:21AM

KdjaCL wrote: »

lol shams fan in admittance post.

mastercard dont do posts...

I'll reinact it so you can put it on youtube.... just to name and shame of course.

SectionF · 14-03-2008 12:56AM

ironingbored wrote: »

When a pig's head is thrown onto the pitch at a Bohs vs Rovers game I'll agree with you.

Have you ever been at a Dublin derby?

dobsdave · 14-03-2008 01:04AM

Didn't dougal (Fr Ted) do a RTE series about the worldwide rivalries.
South America and Turkey were the worst as far as I recall.

Mr Alan · 14-03-2008 01:11AM

if Dougal said it, it must be true!

rossie1977 · 14-03-2008 01:13AM

how are we to define the biggest rivalries??

Liverpool/Man utd is the biggest rivalry in england but in terms of pure hatred it has nothing on chelsea/millwall (or millwall anybody for that matter

) or wolves/west brom

i was watching a program about rival fans in south america where the journey home on the bus is a battle to stay alive, with opposition fans waiting to ambush the team coach on the outskirts of the rival city :eek:

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