Thierry Henry to return to Prem?

Evil_Clown · 13-03-2008 03:35PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Agreed. Although, without trying to belittle it, they have yet to win anything, and are doing a good job of blowing the league. (FA cup 2005 last thing they won)

I think blowing the league is way too strong a statement
This is a team which at least 4 big selling newspapers had in fifth with top 4 Tottenham in their place at the start of the season
So a team predicted to do nothing, selling their biggest name player and not panic buying a replacment thats currently on top of the league are suddenly blowing the league
Come on now, yes maybe they have lost a few points over the last few weeks but again, come on
Arsenal have done better than even you expected I bet

Mr Alan · 13-03-2008 03:43PM

they sure have, but their ascent was not totally a suprise, i seem to recall PHB predicting big things from them this season.

gosplan · 13-03-2008 03:52PM

charlie mchugh wrote: »

Mutu was decent and still is, but was dropped because he was fond of the charlie. They made a profit on Kezman, so no bills squandered there. Ben Haim was a freebie, so again no bills squandered.

Shev was a waste but we all know that purchase wasn't made by a manager, whereas Rafa does decide who he'll sign.

I'll give you Tiago, but I always though Del Horno was decent and surprised he was let go. Certainly racked up some nice Fantasy League points when he was there

Forgot Crespo!!

I'm not talking about money made or lost though. Liverpool fan's can say we made 1m on Garcia, Chelsea, we made a profit on Kezman.

These player's weren't bought to make a profit - they were bought to succeed - ergo, they are failed signings. If they were good signings they would have brought valuable success to the club and there woudl have been no need to go out and replace them.

Basically the fact that Kezman made a profit for Chelsea does not mean you can call him a good signing.

If you're point is that Chelsea have used their money well, I'll add that you're talking about half a billion ... or about 200 million per league title and a bit for each mickey mouse cup.

Not spending well IMO. I'm not saying Rafa does. I'm not even a Liverpool fan but it's insane to suggest in any way that any part of Chelsea's financial model is a good example.

rossie1977 · 13-03-2008 03:57PM

i am not comparing bentley to mellor. if we were to compare then we should only compare both players careers at liverpool and arsenal respectively.

bentley played 10 games for arsenal over 2 seasons and scored 1 goal
mellor played 17 games for liverpool over 2 seasons and scored 6 goals

however the main point is neither were deemed good enough by their respective managers

Third_Echelon · 13-03-2008 04:04PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

i am not comparing bentley to mellor. if we were to compare then we should only compare both players careers at liverpool and arsenal respectively.

bentley played 10 games for arsenal over 2 seasons and scored 1 goal
mellor played 17 games for liverpool over 2 seasons and scored 6 goals

however the main point is neither were deemed good enough by their respective managers

It was Bentley's decision to move. He submitted a transfer request as he wanted to play first team football and he wasn't going to get that with more senior players ahead of him in the pecking order..

Very same situation with Anthony Stokes. Wenger won't stand in someone's way if they want to leave to pursue their career...

rossie1977 · 13-03-2008 04:05PM

gosplan wrote: »

Forgot Crespo!!

I'm not talking about money made or lost though. Liverpool fan's can say we made 1m on Garcia, Chelsea, we made a profit on Kezman.

These player's weren't bought to make a profit - they were bought to succeed - ergo, they are failed signings. If they were good signings they would have brought valuable success to the club and there woudl have been no need to go out and replace them.

liverpool won a champions league, an fa cup, reached another champions league final, a league cup final and finished 3rd two years in a row ahead of arsenal in garcia's three years at the club and he played a major role in the cup successes

what had liverpool done in the previous 3 years before garcia was signed???

garcia scored 32 goals in 3 years at liverpool despite missing most of last year with a terrible injury. personally i think garcia was a success and the only reason rafa sold him was to sweeten the deal for torres. Torres and garcia in the same side would have been awesome

astrofool · 13-03-2008 04:29PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Ciise goal scoring record for us was actually quite impressive iirc.

leave it out on calling Mellor fat!

If it's to do with Liverpool, you'll defend the undefendable (apart from Diouf).

Cisse's only Liverpool legacy was:

POWER DRIVE!

rossie1977 · 13-03-2008 04:36PM

astrofool wrote: »

If it's to do with Liverpool, you'll defend the undefendable (apart from Diouf).

Cisse's only Liverpool legacy was:

POWER DRIVE!

well he will point to 23 goals in 70 games over an injury ravaged 2 seasons (including 17 in his first season) where he was expected to replace liverpool's top scorer of the previous 7 seasons (michael Owen); a champions league medal where he scored in the penalty shoot out, an fa cup medal where he scored in normal time, a supercup medal where he scored both goals.

Mr Alan · 13-03-2008 04:50PM

top scorer in his last season with us too wasnt he? 18 goals playing out of position iirc

Pepe LeFrits · 13-03-2008 06:45PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

so what ex youth players are currently playing in arsenals first team and please don't mention players developed by the likes of monaco and barcelona

ashley cole is the last guy i remember to make it

Because that's exactly what he said, isn't it?

This thread is going down the crapper.

Zapp Brannigan · 13-03-2008 06:52PM

Thierry who?

this thread has seriously derailed

Thierry Henry to return to Prem?

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