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Thierry Henry to return to Prem?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    It's a done deal, He is a Pompey fan after all and if anyone can get a few more seasons out of him, it'll be Arry:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    It'd be great to see him with pool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,827 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Lesson noted. The claws come out when tickety boo is said about the 'Pool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    The claws come out when tickety boo is said about the 'Pool.


    Not the Pool. Just Rafa, i love him :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,867 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    An Citeog wrote: »
    Henry hasn't been bad this season for Barça but he definitely hasn't set the world alight. One of the main concerns though (apart from his age), is that he has a recurring back problem and Barcelona medical staff believe that this condition will continue to deteriorate over time.

    I was at the Barça-Villarreal game on Sunday and Henry looked a shadow of his former self. He was hanging out on the left wing a la his Arsenal days but didn't seem to have that same explosive pace to get in behind the defence and cause problems. His main asset was always his blistering pace and with that lessened, it'd be a big gamble for any of the top Premiership teams to sign him.

    I watched the game as well and have watched most of the Barca games this season... I think his problem at Barcelona is that he is on the left as part of a front 3, rather than a front 2.

    He doesn't get the same opportunities to get into the box like he did at Arsenal. Also with the 3 in midfield he has to do a lot more 'midfield work', chasing back right-sided opposition players as well..

    I think he is just having a moan to be honest. I don't think he'd leave and probably not back to the premier league. If he was going to switch leagues, I could see him going to Italy quicker...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭scruff321


    id love him to go to liverpool but i really doubt he would


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I couldn't see Thierry coming back to the premiership and certainly not to Liverpool, I can see him moving back to London when he does retire, by all accounts he really loves the city. I do believe that his decision to leave Arsenal was pretty much a joint one, his marriage obviously broke down around the time of the move and I think he just wanted a clean break. I would love to see him back at Arsenal, I don't buy the one about him holding back the younger players, that said Wenger would never bring back a player he has sold imo. In conclusion I feel Thierry will not return to the premiership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,729 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Well whether you buy it or not, the younger players have come of age since he left... so he's now free to return to Arsenal. Would love to see him back. Can't see it happening though. He'd cost a fair bit of the £16m Barca paid for him and that's just not Wenger's style. At times this season you've felt Arsenal were missing something up front (ok Van Persie's barely played), Henry would probably slot back in well enough (if he was prepared to be a team player, rather than having the team built around him). His age would mean plenty of game time for Van Persie (when fit) and Adebayor. But you'd have to say the money could be better spent than on a player with 2-3 seasons left at the top level max.

    I wouldn't say Wenger wouldn't buy back a player after he left though, he admitted in trying to buy back Petit but Chelsea already had the deal done by the time he was notified of his availability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Well whether you buy it or not, the younger players have come of age since he left... .


    Who is to say that the young players would not have developed anyway. As I have said before, Cesc was also brilliant last season, he was very unlucky not to score plenty of goals, we were blessed to have Thierry and as I said I would love to see Thierry back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,926 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    there is no way he would move to UNited or Chelsea. I cant ever see him coming back at all anyway.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Giles actually had a good point 3 weeks ago during the Inter game. When Arsene Wenger sells a player you have to question why he sold him and most likely that player isnt up to that level anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    His touch, pace and accuracy have gone down so much from back in the day, he's not playing badly, just a shadow of his former greatness. Every now and then I watch youtube videos of Ronnie and himself back in their prime, brings a tear to my eye. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    heh Henry-Chenko :D


    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    eZe^ wrote: »
    His touch, pace and accuracy have gone down so much from back in the day, he's not playing badly, just a shadow of his former greatness. Every now and then I watch youtube videos of Ronnie and himself back in their prime, brings a tear to my eye. :p

    :D

    Remember those days,when you didnt have to ask who scored for arsenal, it was always Henry.

    It was only 3 weeks ago that he scored that stunner against Celtic, still life in the old dog yet...

    Set up at Barcelona is all wrong for older men like Ronnie and Henry, they are given the ball and everyone expects them do something special, as if they are young men or something...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,531 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Would the presently already unstable board give rafa another big wad of money to sign one player. Hasn't he had enough to spend already?

    so thats liverpools lot, they shouldn't spend any more money from here on in until football finishes ;)

    man utd and chelsea sign £20m subs like nani, hargreaves, carrick, wright-philips, shevchenko, mikel etc but somehow its rafa that has over spent, the same rafa who was outspent (net spend) by roy keane and david moyes this summer :rolleyes:

    liverpool had to sell cisse, bellamy and garcia to raise the cash to sign torres. The sold gonzales for £6.5m and brought in Babel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭I-Bleed-White


    I'd be surprised to see him at an EPL club thats not the big 4 but out of respect for the Arse I couldn't see him at Chelski or Utd. Don't think he would fit in to Liverpool so I reckon a move back to Juve is a possability or the Serie A in general. Maybe he'll go back to playing club football in France.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭I-Bleed-White


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    so thats liverpools lot, they shouldn't spend any more money from here on in until football finishes ;)

    man utd and chelsea sign £20m subs like nani, hargreaves, carrick, wright-philips, shevchenko, mikel etc but somehow its rafa that has over spent, the same rafa who was outspent (net spend) by roy keane and david moyes this summer :rolleyes:

    liverpool had to sell cisse, bellamy and garcia to raise the cash to sign torres. The sold gonzales for £6.5m and brought in Babel

    Difference there is with the exception of Sheva they are all good buys. Torres is the only clever signing Liverpool have made under the Rafa reign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Torres is the only clever signing Liverpool have made under the Rafa reign.

    You really have made a fool of yourself with that statement.

    Well done.

    I usually get wound up by people saying such idiotic things-but for some reason i just find such a clueless statement amusing this morning :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,171 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Torres is the only clever signing Liverpool have made under the Rafa reign.

    /points and laughs at statment.


    Normally something like this gets a more scathing explanative reply, but this one, as Mr Alan pointed out, is just special and doesn't even deserve that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    the same rafa who was outspent (net spend) by roy keane and david moyes this summer :rolleyes:

    liverpool had to sell cisse, bellamy and garcia to raise the cash to sign torres. The sold gonzales for £6.5m and brought in Babel

    Is that true that Rafa has net spent less then Moyes this season ?

    I can understand Roy Keane as he bought every average player going but I didn't think it was the same with Moyes v Rafa on that.

    Have you stats on that ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    its true that Rafas net spend in the summer was less than Moyes, yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    its true that Rafas net spend in the summer was less than Moyes, yes.

    So summer but not the 2007-2008 season ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    actually i posted up a list there, but i think it may be before the Fernandes deal collapsed. how much you pay for him in the end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    actually i posted up a list there, but i think it may be before the Fernandes deal collapsed. how much you pay for him in the end?


    He is only on loan still.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    in that case the net spend figures that people are quoting are inaccurate, as afaik they were incl Fernandes at 9 million which was on the brink before it collapsed. we spent about a couple of million or so more than ye in that case. still interesting if ya ask me considering we werent meant to have gone on sucha spree that a title challenge was a sure thing ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,324 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    in that case the net spend figures that people are quoting are inaccurate, as afaik they were incl Fernandes at 9 million which was on the brink before it collapsed. we spent about a couple of million or so more than ye in that case. still interesting if ya ask me considering we werent meant to have gone on sucha spree that a title challenge was a sure thing ;)
    In fairness, I don't think it is fair to compare the spending of a team like City or Everton in ONE season to the likes of United or Liverpool in ONE season - as United and Liverpool would have an already expensive squad and only be adding to it while the likes of Everton and City need to spend big to try and get the ssqaud to the next level. You have to look at the spending over a few seasons relative to the teams starting position and current performance.

    Also, it was mostly Liverpool fans saying this year was going to be their year - most oppostions fans i'd have spoken to pre-season had the same opinion they always did - despite the money spent, Liverpool still weren't good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    harsh truth.

    although the point i was getting at was that most media outlets were severly misinformed about just how substantial our spending was this year.

    you dont post enough anymore.

    i miss you :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭stick-dan


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Not the Pool. Just Rafa, i love him :o

    Me too Mr.Alan, Such an under-rated manager. A rafalusionist. Long live benitez. I would love thierry to come to liverpool but only if the price was cheap. He could aide in torres's maturing process at the pool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,324 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    harsh truth.

    although the point i was getting at was that most media outlets were severly misinformed about just how substantial our spending was this year.

    you dont post enough anymore.

    i miss you :(

    I know - started in a new area in work.... less time to arse around doing nothing, for the same pay.

    Plus nothing interesting has been happening recently, apart from the Liverpool/DIC talks, and I don't have much to say that would be deemed constructive on that matter, so i'm keeping stum!

    And to get back on topic.... I really can't see Henry coming back to England. Arsenal won't take him back, United or Chelsea wouldn't go for him, so of the usual 'big 4' that only leaves Liverpool, and I just don't see it happening, mainly cause Babbel is looking a very good propect, and he won't flourish playing second fiddle to Henry for two years. As for aiding Torres' maturing process... REALLY don't think so. Torres is already the leading man at 'pool, he doesn't need tutoring from Henry. If liverpool were to sign any player to help Torres, they'd need to be looking at a player in the Bergkamp mould, Bergkamp is the player that 'made' Henry imo. If he is to leave barcelona, someone like Villareal, or At. Madrid would be good moves for him I reckon, or possibly a move back to France with Lyon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I love the arrogance of the "Big Four" fans. why is it hard to believe he would go somewhere outside of the big four? is CL football everything?


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