Is the English FA gone mad ?

astrofool · 27-02-2008 03:44PM

Masch can't be touched, because the ref reported that he saw what he did, and chose not to book him. In reality, both should be sent off, it was a case of poor refereeing (yet again), but according to the rules and regs, the FA can do nothing.

If Essien and Mikel appealed now, and weren't seen as frivolous, then it's a problem, obviously the FA has had enough with clubs coming to them with waste of time appeals, and are stamping down on it. The FA is allowed to change how it deals with these cases over time. I bet we'll see very few similar appeals for a while.

I think if a ref doesn't see an incident correctly, he should not do anything about it at all, rather then guess, and let the video panel decide. However, there's probably some code of refereeing where they get a demerit if they miss an incident.

Nunu · 27-02-2008 03:54PM

Lads, forget the Mascherano / Aliadiere / Gallas bickering...this guy has got to be ridiculed...

Dubit10 wrote: »

Taylor in my eyes should have been banned for the rest of the season.Cant understand where all this sympthy in coming from.He went over the top and smiled after tackle.Disgraceful IMO.What if it had been rooney or lampard etc..(English star) who had have had a broken ankle? Do you think the press would have had this kind of sympthy if lets say tugay or some other non english player would have done the same thing.Like hell they would:rolleyes:

How can anyone have this sort of view on that incident (and he's not the only one). The thing that's really annoying me are people saying he smiled after the tackle:mad: Total bollox!
Anyone who has seen it play through on tv knows he never smiled and anyone who condemns him of doing so because of a still photo doesn't deserve to have their views heard.

astrofool · 27-02-2008 04:48PM

That photo is also quite badly pixellated. I'm sure if you look closely, you can see scaly skin and some horns, he's a lizard person.

kryogen · 27-02-2008 04:59PM

Dubit10 wrote: »

Taylor in my eyes should have been banned for the rest of the season.Cant understand where all this sympthy in coming from.He went over the top and smiled after tackle.Disgraceful IMO.What if it had been rooney or lampard etc..(English star) who had have had a broken ankle? Do you think the press would have had this kind of sympthy if lets say tugay or some other non english player would have done the same thing.Like hell they would:rolleyes:

do you work for the sun? nice sensationalism, and dont let facts get in the way of a good stone throwing

gucci · 04-03-2008 04:25PM

Nice to see the English FA are totally consistent with their judgments. Frank Lampard got his red card rescinded from Saturday (in fairness he probably shouldn't have been sent off, but i fail to see how this is ANY different to Aliadieres incident)

event · 04-03-2008 04:32PM

gucci wrote: »

Nice to see the English FA are totally consistent with their judgments. Frank Lampard got his red card rescinded from Saturday (in fairness he probably shouldn't have been sent off, but i fail to see how this is ANY different to Aliadieres incident)

well tbh, aliadiere should have been sent off

disregarding whether mascherano have or anything else, he raised his hand to an opposing players face and was rightly sent off.

the rules are there in black and white. The rules are also there that if an appeal is frivilous, you will get an extra game, which Boro's was.
Can anyone tell us what reason were they using to try and get him off, why he shouldnt have been sent off?

Dave! · 04-03-2008 04:36PM

I'd love if someone knew the actual law he broke!

event · 04-03-2008 04:45PM

DaveMcG wrote: »

I'd love if someone knew the actual law he broke!

who?

aliadiere?

its violent conduct is it not?

raised hands to the face, is violent conduct, regardless of a slap or a punch

pickarooney · 04-03-2008 04:48PM

What exactly did Aliadiere's appeal consist of and is anyone capable of answering without using the F word?

gucci · 04-03-2008 04:56PM

event wrote: »

well tbh, aliadiere should have been sent off

disregarding whether mascherano have or anything else, he raised his hand to an opposing players face and was rightly sent off.

So is Lampards different because he had to lower his hand to slap at Boa Morte? Is a headlock like Carvallagho's one straight after the incident within the laws of the game? Of course he was only diffusing the situation, which is why he would wrestle an oppositions player rather than his own.

~Rebel~ · 04-03-2008 04:59PM

anyone have a link to Lampards straight red? Haven't seen it myself. Aliadiere's looked a fairly cut and dried red anyway.

gucci · 04-03-2008 05:06PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

anyone have a link to Lampards straight red? Haven't seen it myself. Aliadiere's looked a fairly cut and dried red anyway.

Video
Its not awfully clear (and looking at it again now Carvallagho's "head lock" wasnt as agressive as i thought-oops!)

joe123 · 04-03-2008 05:17PM

I think lampard being let off is a disgrace imo. I think it was a fairly deserved sending off in the first place. Not for the push but when he first fell on top of him he brought down his heel which looked like he tried to hurt boa morte.

Is this the fa favouring the big club with the england international? Fair enough if allieadiare hadnt been given an extra match just for appealing...no lampard is a great english player playing for a big club of course we have to let him off.:rolleyes: Disgrace.

~Rebel~ · 04-03-2008 05:20PM

Cheeers gucci

From the little pushy thing, it didn't look like there was any intent to harm or anything so could see the FA's point, same with how there was no violent intent with Mascherano's but was with Aliadiere's.

I didn't see bringing his heel down thing though, sounds worse then the actual sending off offence, will try and spot it again in that video above.

gucci · 04-03-2008 05:26PM

maybe at 1.30?he brings in his feet.....cant tell from that angle whats going on really.

event · 04-03-2008 06:20PM

joe123 wrote: »

I think lampard being let off is a disgrace imo. I think it was a fairly deserved sending off in the first place. Not for the push but when he first fell on top of him he brought down his heel which looked like he tried to hurt boa morte.

Is this the fa favouring the big club with the england international? Fair enough if allieadiare hadnt been given an extra match just for appealing...no lampard is a great english player playing for a big club of course we have to let him off.:rolleyes: Disgrace.

christ, do people not understand?

HE WAS SENT OFF FOR THE PUSH, NOT THE ACTION WITH HIS HEEL.

maybe he should have been, but he wasnt, it was the push, so thats all that they can look at, end of story

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Cheeers gucci

From the little pushy thing, it didn't look like there was any intent to harm or anything so could see the FA's point, same with how there was no violent intent with Mascherano's but was with Aliadiere's.

thats the issue really.

there was no violent intent, but it wont stop people here going mad

some of the posts are worse than the Sun

lpool2k05 · 04-03-2008 07:04PM

I heard on SSN last week when discussing alliadiere that a panel of 3 sit to review the footage and its not neccesarily the same 3 sitting for every incident so different views will bring different decisions i guess!!Plus these people were never pro's which doesnt help them!

I think the FA defo have to sort their appeal process out!!Bit of a joke at the moment IMO!!

joe123 · 05-03-2008 01:06AM

event wrote: »

christ, do people not understand?

HE WAS SENT OFF FOR THE PUSH, NOT THE ACTION WITH HIS HEEL.

maybe he should have been, but he wasnt, it was the push, so thats all that they can look at, end of story

thats the issue really.

there was no violent intent, but it wont stop people here going mad

some of the posts are worse than the Sun

very angry man.

event · 05-03-2008 10:20AM

not really

just when its about issues that can be explained easily

Is the English FA gone mad ?

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