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Owning an SUV means you can do what you like

  • 24-02-2008 10:26PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭


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    By peteIRL08


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Yeah, they got the same 'Do what you like' license as BMW and Merc drivers in a recent amnesty.


    Funny thing I noticed today as well..... all these expensive cars, you'd thing indicators would come as standard, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Man that is bad, hope someone reported the c'nut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭kona


    youre only realising this now.:confused::D

    it reflects the attitude of the owners, unfortunatly all get tarred with the same brush, some are kewl, the majority are, well sheep, buying a car that in no way suits their needs, just because they think it makes them look like a "celeb" or wag in the hello magazine they buy each week, they are totally removed from reality....gob****es

    im laughing my ass off at them as most have those bought under finance and wont be able to pay back the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Clytus


    Tenner it was a female driver!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Clytus wrote: »
    Tenner it was a female driver!!:D

    Beat me to it.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Clytus wrote: »
    Tenner it was a female driver!!:D

    +1

    but to balance this........if it was a bloke too, shame on him.:p

    anyways, dreadful parking. I was in Dundrum town centre a while back and the yummy mummy's in their x5's cant reverse or park properly full stop...........like why do you want to own a car/suv that you cant judge the size of to safely drive? Its stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Silverfish wrote: »
    Funny thing I noticed today as well..... all these expensive cars, you'd thing indicators would come as standard, no?
    The indicator lights do work, they just don't use them when turning or on a roundabout. They park up on cycletracks, loading bays, disabled spots etc, and then put them on flashing/hazard mode, this gives them the same diplomatic like immunity that taxis are also fully entitled to.


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    SUV I saw most recently had a some sort of makeup holder thing in it, couldn't help but roll my eyes.


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He or she has probably had one ding too many from other peoples cars.
    Thats one way to avoid them :D
    I think thats Dundrum SC ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    CuLT wrote: »
    SUV I saw most recently had a some sort of makeup holder thing in it, couldn't help but roll my eyes.
    Thats for the off road commandos applying their war paint camouflage


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    jayzus, shoulda let the air outa those tires........ gobsh*te......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,503 ✭✭✭✭jellie


    ronoc wrote: »
    I think thats Dundrum SC ?

    looks like dundrum. & parking on saturday (if pics from today?) is usually mental anyway without someone taking up 2 spaces!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    DaveMcG wrote: »
    jayzus, shoulda let the air outa those tires........ gobsh*te......

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1010-04.htm:D

    SUV Drivers in Paris Get Wind Knocked Out of Them
    A clandestine group lets air out of tires as a form of protest. The vehicles' owners are not amused.
    by Sebastian Rotella


    PARIS - If the French marauders known as The Deflated waged their brand of urban subversion in Southern California, the mecca of the sport utility vehicle, by now they would probably have been jailed, beaten, shot or at least sued.

    But five weeks after the clandestine crew of environmentalists launched a low-intensity war on SUVs in Paris, there are no casualties to report. Except, of course, for dozens of deflated gas-guzzling vehicles, said Sous-Adjudant Marrant (Sub-Warrant Officer Joker), the mysterious, masked leader of Les Dégonflés.

    Under cover of night, Marrant's troops target Jeep Cherokees, Porsche Cayennes and other four-wheel-drive vehicles parked on the tree-lined avenues and cobblestoned lanes of wealthy neighborhoods. The eco-guerrillas deflate tires without damaging them, smear doors with mud and paste handbills on windshields proclaiming that the vehicles are dangerous, polluting behemoths that do not belong in the city.

    "We use the mud to say that if the owners will not take the four-wheel-drives to the countryside, we will bring the countryside to the four-wheel-drives," said Marrant, 28, who uses an alias because angry drivers deluge his website, http://degonfle.blogg.org with e-mails threatening mayhem and questioning his manhood.

    Although his nom de guerre was inspired by Subcommander Marcos, the masked Mexican guerrilla revered by leftists, Marrant insists he is not violent or even particularly serious. "Deflated" is a self-deprecating name that also means "coward" in French. The group wants to send a mischievous message while avoiding damage to the vehicles, injury and prosecution, the thin, mop-haired activist said during an interview in a corner cafe on the Seine's left bank, longtime turf of radicals and revolutionaries.

    "We emphasize the comic, the burlesque side," Marrant said with the earnest, wide-eyed look of a prankster trying to keep a straight face. "It would be hard to take us to court. We don't slash tires, we deflate them. Air doesn't cost anything. As for getting cars dirty, that's nothing. I would plead guilty to that. Our rules are to never run from the police. And always run from the owners."

    The rise of anti-SUV activism in France shows that one man's vandal can be another man's avenger. The deflators are on the fringe of a movement that has considerable support at City Hall, which is governed by an alliance of the Socialist and Green parties.

    Christophe Delabre, the president of a French association of SUV owners, has appeared in a television debate with Marrant, who wore sunglasses, a baseball cap and a bandanna to conceal his identity. Delabre does not find his adversary amusing.

    "It's comparable to extremism, to discrimination, to inciting hate," Delabre said. "You can't stigmatize a category of the population with impunity under the pretext that they drive a kind of vehicle…. [The Deflated] put others' lives in danger, and that's unacceptable. It's out of the question that this kind of action is tolerated in France. I don't understand how the police can arrest deflators and let them go a few hours later."

    Although city leaders don't condone vandalism, officials have gone as far as proposing that Paris ban sport utility vehicles. Deputy Mayor Denis Baupin, who oversees transportation programs, has called the SUV "a caricature of a car."

    Baupin spoke during a recent rally of about 200 activists at a Jeep dealership where the manager had agreed to shut down early for the day. The decision drew cheers from children wearing cow and buffalo masks, cyclists hoisting bikes triumphantly aloft.

    "An SUV is totally useless for Paris," Baupin said in his speech, blaming the recent devastating hurricanes in the U.S. on climate change caused by pollution. "The situation is striking: The country that refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol suffered from a climatic catastrophe…. We all feel sorry for the dead in New Orleans. But now maybe the United States should start considering that their development pattern is not to be repeated worldwide and that it causes environmental problems."

    In the United States, sport utility vehicles account for one of every four automobiles sold, but in France, SUVs represent only about 5% of the market. The prices are high for middle-class families, but sales jumped about 20% last year.

    Overt official hostility has encouraged antisocial attacks masquerading as activism, Delabre charged.

    "This reflects the impact of the statements made during the last two years by Mr. Baupin," he said. "He has told anyone listening, and the media helped him a lot, that four-wheel-drives should be banned. I criticized him because that kind of talk surprised me coming from an elected representative."

    Like other historic European capitals, Paris struggles with overwhelming traffic that challenges even the smallest cars and steeliest drivers. Double-parked delivery trucks block narrow streets. Swarms of motorcyclists zoom the wrong way on congested boulevards. Parking garages, impossibly small, seem designed by sadists.

    Spurred by the take-back-the-streets attitude of the Greens, City Hall is trying to discourage cars in favor of mass transit, biking and walking. In addition, the national government has imposed a new tax on high-polluting vehicles that works out to about $300 per owner, but varies depending on emission levels.

    And the Deflated are stepping up their stealthy fight. Marrant is writing a children's song as an anthem for the cause. He also hopes to record a dance-mix version before Saturday, when activists plan an international wave of anti-SUV operations — by daylight, this time — in France, Britain, Canada and Australia.

    "The point is to focus on consumers," he said, spewing smoke from a Gaulois cigarette into the haze shrouding the crowded cafe. "We have to get past the idea that there's always a single, identifiable villain: the president, the corporation, the chief executive. Our campaign has to be very marketing, shocking, provocative. I want to make it fashionable to be anti-4X4."

    Marrant is unemployed, though he has dabbled in journalism. His brother works for a major European corporation. His group numbers about 20, he said. They come from a mix of middle- and working-class backgrounds and anti-globalization and environmental groups.

    The Deflated have made contact with like-minded activists in the United States. Marrant is familiar with the U.S. television advertising campaign that equated buying an SUV with financing Islamic terrorism. But he finds it too gloomy.

    He says the French public supports his group's approach. People send e-mails asking to participate or suggesting tactics, such as a special tool the activists now use for lightning-fast deflations.

    "It's a kind of key that deflates a tire very fast and completely, in two seconds," he said. "A mechanic sent an e-mail telling us about it. He said, 'You can do better than you have been doing.' "

    Delabre, meanwhile, fears an eventual confrontation.

    "I put myself in the place of an owner of a four-wheel-drive who sees people messing up his vehicle," he said. "I worry that things will get out of control. We can't accept that in our fine democracy. People have died for the freedom we have today."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    To be fair, yes it is ignorance but it's most likely a women who doesn't feel confident to reverse it into a space. So she takes the easy option

    I suppose the bright side is she isn't damaging other cars, doesn't excuse it though


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    taken in WhiteWater in newbridge?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Petey2006


    It was indeed Dundrum, and today, approx 3pm. What was most annoying was there was about 30 spaces left in the entire shopping centre. The goddamn ignorance of it. If I'd the balls, I'd have keyed the goddamn vehicle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Petey2006 wrote: »
    If I'd the balls, I'd have keyed the goddamn vehicle.

    I dare you to post that in the motors forum, :eek:
    No matter how bad the parking is, that is just a line you do not cross!

    By all means, get security to lash a few stickers on, I'm told they are a bitch to remove :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭mang87


    ronoc wrote: »
    Thats one way to avoid them :D


    Its also a way to get the side of your car keyed.


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Petey2006 wrote: »
    If I'd the balls, I'd have keyed the goddamn vehicle.

    Well thankfully you didn't have the balls for this cowardly act. Seeing as you thought seriously about doing it and didn't makes you a pretty worthless person.

    mang87 wrote: »
    Its also a way to get the side of your car keyed.
    I see we have another ball-less coward


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Petey2006 wrote: »
    The goddamn ignorance of it. If I'd the balls, I'd have keyed the goddamn vehicle.
    Annoying as it is, and SUVs in general are, that's hardly the appropriate response.
    CuLT wrote: »
    SUV I saw most recently had a some sort of makeup holder thing in it, couldn't help but roll my eyes.
    To check your eyeliner? :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Petey2006


    ronoc wrote: »
    Well thankfully you didn't have the balls for this cowardly act. Seeing as you thought seriously about doing it and didn't makes you a pretty worthless person.



    I see we have another ball-less coward

    Yeah, you're a pretty heroic person yourself, raggin on someone anonymously over the net. Never fails to ammuse me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    The big G man should use a giant saw to cut it in half! :D


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Petey2006 wrote: »
    Yeah, you're a pretty heroic person yourself, raggin on someone anonymously over the net. Never fails to ammuse me.
    Don't try justify what you said you passive aggressive tosser. Maybe you should get a job as a parking attendant seeing how you care about traffic laws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,109 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Oh it's not just suv's...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭passive


    ronoc wrote: »
    Well thankfully you didn't have the balls for this cowardly act. Seeing as you thought seriously about doing it and didn't makes you a pretty worthless person.



    I see we have another ball-less coward

    Meh, less consequences and harm caused than keying the owner's face, and pretty karma-ly justifiable.

    Spent 10 minutes stuck turning a corner in a bus yesterday because some bitch was parked on double yellow lines. She was sitting in the car and got out to yell back at our bus driver. Then got back in. And sat. And waited, blocking up a large intersection, until her friend returned from the shop.

    I question the sanity of anyone who doesn't think she deserved a brick through the windshield.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    ronoc wrote: »
    Well thankfully you didn't have the balls for this cowardly act. Seeing as you thought seriously about doing it and didn't makes you a pretty worthless person
    I see it more like a convenient act rather than cowardly. Should they wait around to challenge the person when they come back, is that "brave" the possibility of starting a fist fight. Keying is quick and easy.

    I do not agree with the keying, but I see it as a vigilante way of imposing a fine on the person.

    The word "brave" is also used all over the place now aswell. If I didn't know the meaning of brave I would have guessed it meant sick or disabled, since it is used to describe such people all the time these days.

    "Parking attendants"/traffic wardens will similarly impose tickets, put labels on the cars when people are gone, are they cowards too? It makes sense to wait until people are gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    passive wrote: »
    I question the sanity of anyone who doesn't think she deserved a brick through the windshield.
    Well, question mine then, because I wouldn't agree with the brick approach.

    I would, however, have taken out my mobile and called the guards, and included her reg. number in the report. I would also have encouraged the others on the bus to do likeways. If they had received enough calls, they would have got someone round there in a hurry, if only to stop people calling them.


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rubadub wrote: »
    I see it more like a convenient act rather than cowardly. Should they wait around to challenge the person when they come back, is that "brave" the possibility of starting a fist fight. Keying is quick and easy.

    I do not agree with the keying, but I see it as a vigilante way of imposing a fine on the person.

    The word "brave" is also used all over the place now aswell. If I didn't know the meaning of brave I would have guessed it meant sick or disabled, since it is used to describe such people all the time these days.

    "Parking attendants"/traffic wardens will similarly impose tickets, put labels on the cars when people are gone, are they cowards too? It makes sense to wait until people are gone.
    God you people really are something else. :) Go ahead keep trying to justify it to yourself. Wait until you get your car keyed for no reason some day. Enjoy the big bill:):):)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 69,064 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    I was in Dundrum town centre a while back and the yummy mummy's in their x5's cant reverse or park properly full stop...........like why do you want to own a car/suv that you cant judge the size of to safely drive? Its stupidity.

    Dead right , it amaze's me that women get into these vehicles without the skills to even drive them!!!! I don't care who your husband is!! Thats just plain wrong!!! Why are the insurance companies lettin them away with it!!:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭passive


    Well, question mine then, because I wouldn't agree with the brick approach.

    I would, however, have taken out my mobile and called the guards, and included her reg. number in the report. I would also have encouraged the others on the bus to do likeways. If they had received enough calls, they would have got someone round there in a hurry, if only to stop people calling them.

    Living in France at the minute... Not so big on the phone calls or engaging strangers in conversation thing, due to language difficulties :o. But consider your sanity questioned in any case... I don't personally want to throw one and hurt her, as such, I just think it would be a good thing for the universe "en general" (see what I did there?) if a brick were to arrive, at considerable velocity, upon her windshield, and the windshields/property of similarly inconsiderate, "ignorant" (in the Irish sense) people.


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