Florida adopts 'scientific theory of evolution'

Dave! · 21-02-2008 09:38PM

Yeah, his agenda of trying to understand the universe

Terry · 21-02-2008 10:58PM

Sam Vimes wrote: »

its entirely possible that there were two groups of the same species of monkey, one of which evolved and one of which didn't. just because one group evolved doesn't necessarily mean they interbred with every other group and completely eradicated their genome.

we did evolve from a monkey like creature because the monkey genome as it exists today didn't exist back then but my point is that just because some members of a species evolve, doesn't mean the old species completely disappears

Indeed.
Look at me. I'm evolved way beyond any of you paeons.
You are all chimps compared to me.
Bow before me and the lump on my neck that make me better than the rest of you.

metaoblivia · 21-02-2008 11:13PM

I was educated in the Florida public school system and we learned about Darwin's theory of evolution. According to my mother - who's been a Florida public school teacher for 26 years - they've been teaching the theory of evolution for as long as she's been teaching in the state. This is just the state specifically requiring it now in their written standards.

rigormortis · 21-02-2008 11:23PM

the_syco wrote: »

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23238493/

150 years later, they cop on.

^^^ Proof that at least 50% of Americans are brain dead. Isn't that the same amount who voted Bush in? :P

I hate to burst your bubble, mate.

have a look at this book.

In the Minds of Men: Darwin and the New World Order" by Ian Taylor

There is no truth whatsoever in the evolution theory.

Dave! · 21-02-2008 11:28PM

All that evidence is pretty misleading in that case!

Red Hand · 21-02-2008 11:39PM

Jeez, of all the theories in the world evolution is almost the most solid. I don't know how Creationists manage to find the time and energy to perform mental gymnastics to support their view.

rigormortis · 21-02-2008 11:40PM

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Jeez, of all the theories in the world evolution is almost the most solid. I don't know how Creationists manage to find the time and energy to perform mental gymnastics to support their view.

But why do people have to accept anything. Why not live your live? Who is man to think that he can explain the entire workings of the universe.

Many internal flaws need to be sorted out before we even think of looking outward.

Midna · 21-02-2008 11:44PM

in fairness, i think the population of florida is the among the oldest in the united states. My granny used to say evolution was against the church and I think alot of her generation did too!

AlmightyCushion · 21-02-2008 11:45PM

rigormortis wrote: »

Who is man to think that he can explain the entire workings of the universe.

Man is the creature that managed to explain many other workings. Naturally we would want to figure out as much of the universe as we possibly could. We are generally a curious species who find pleasure in figuring out how things work.

Red Hand · 21-02-2008 11:47PM

rigormortis wrote: »

But why do people have to accept anything. Why not live your live? Who is man to think that he can explain the entire workings of the universe.

Many internal flaws need to be sorted out before we even think of looking outward.

I never said anything about accepting. TBH, the theory itself came out of not accepting, or finding alternatives to the previous explanations for how different species came about.

It's a fairly common trait-to be curious and not accepting all the time, is it not?

Dave! · 21-02-2008 11:48PM

rigormortis wrote: »

But why do people have to accept anything. Why not live your live? Who is man to think that he can explain the entire workings of the universe.

Many internal flaws need to be sorted out before we even think of looking outward.

That's pretty deep, man......

However, if people followed that rationale, we'd all still be dying of the flu, or during childbirth, or by other preventable causes.......... in our 30's, rather than 70's and 80's as today.

You sort out your own internal flaws, and leave scientists to look outwards and try to explain the world and improve conditions for others, as they've been successfully doing for the past few centuries.

rigormortis · 21-02-2008 11:50PM

DaveMcG wrote: »

That's pretty deep, man......

However, if people followed that rationale, we'd all still be dying of the flu, or during childbirth, or by other preventable causes.......... in our 30's, rather than 70's and 80's as today.

You sort out your own internal flaws, and leave scientists to look outwards and try to explain the world and improve conditions for others, as they've been successfully doing for the past few centuries.

Who mentioned scientists? I was referring to theologians and such like. Evolutionary theory is not a science, if anything it is a religion.

As for scientists improving my life in any way, not yet.

Red Hand · 21-02-2008 11:53PM

rigormortis wrote: »

Who mentioned scientists? I was referring to theologians and such like. Evolutionary theory is not a science, if anything it is a religion.

Huh? How so? {quote]

As for scientists improving my life in any way, not yet.[/QUOTE]

What if you develop an illness? You might be glad of science then, and the treatments that are available due to science?

What about communication-internet etc? Food supplies?

Dave! · 21-02-2008 11:55PM

ah, a troll I see.

good lad

Red Hand · 21-02-2008 11:55PM

Just clicked on your web-page Rigormortis. Do you believe in that stuff?

rigormortis · 21-02-2008 11:56PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Man is the creature that managed to explain many other workings. Naturally we would want to figure out as much of the universe as we possibly could. We are generally a curious species who find pleasure in figuring out how things work.

Fair enough. You can have all the theories you want, just dont force them down the throat of my children.

rigormortis · 21-02-2008 11:57PM

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Just clicked on your web-page Rigormortis. Do you believe in that stuff?

Not believe, that would suggest blind obedience. You should listen to a few shows. His one yesterday was a fine example of Alan's work.

rigormortis · 21-02-2008 11:59PM

DaveMcG wrote: »

ah, a troll I see.

good lad

This accusation has been leveled at me time and time again. Just because I dont go with the flow does not make me a troll.

Dave! · 22-02-2008 12:01AM

rigormortis wrote: »

This accusation has been leveled at me time and time again. Just because I dont go with the flow does not make me a troll.

Yeah it's the nonsense that you post that makes you a troll

Enough!

rigormortis · 22-02-2008 12:02AM

DaveMcG wrote: »

Yeah it's the nonsense that you post that makes you a troll

Enough!

Care to quote an example?

Dave! · 22-02-2008 12:05AM

rigormortis wrote: »

Evolutionary theory is not a science, if anything it is a religion.

As for scientists improving my life in any way, not yet.

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Mr. CooL ICE · 22-02-2008 12:06AM

rigormortis wrote:

As for scientists improving my life in any way, not yet.

^^ example here too.

Ever take any medication when you were sick? Ever notice how cars today don't emit half the fumes they did 50 years ago? Yeah sure, scientists never did anything for you :rolleyes:

rigormortis · 22-02-2008 12:06AM

DaveMcG wrote: »

.

Look, I'm not even getting into this. I am only back today after a week long "holiday". Later.

Red Hand · 22-02-2008 12:07AM

Was he in the Life of Brian?:) (What have they ever done for us...!?)

rigormortis · 22-02-2008 12:09AM

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Was he in the Life of Brian?:) (What have they ever done for us...!?)

Look at his video, Reality Check. Its on google video.

Slutmonkey57b · 22-02-2008 12:17AM

Troll wrote: »

As for scientists improving my life in any way, not yet.

Not to respond to the troll, but this is a favourite argument of mine:

I think anyone who objects so vehemently to science, whether it be evolution, or animal testing, or genetics, should be refused access to the fruits of science that modern society enjoys. What does that mean?

That means no access to medicines that came about as a result of "unethical" animal or human research - ie all of them. No insulin for diabetics. No cancer drugs. No allergy medication. No (my favourite) bypass machines for Jehova's witnesses who refuse blood transplants.
No access to any form of technology - electronic, steam driven, oil driven, metallurgy, structural engineering.
No access to any form of transport at any time other than the (bare) foot and pack animals.

People with no respect for science should be prepared to live without it methinks.

Dave! · 22-02-2008 12:19AM

Anyways................

Galvasean · 22-02-2008 12:20AM

Suddenly I'm reminded of Moe in the angel episode of the Simpsons. "What has science ever done for us?" Shortly after when he's in trouble, "I hope medical science can help me."
Lets be honest if it werent for scientists our quality of life would be atrocious. Heck, most of us probably wouldn't be alive today.

rigormortis · 22-02-2008 12:21AM

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

People with no respect for science should be prepared to live without it methinks.

I would not let a doctor within a mile of me. As for you other suggestions, I would quite happily live such an existance. No CCTV, RFID, vaccinations, GM food, government.

Science has humanity enslaved at the present time, if you cannot see that, well then I will not attempt to convince you otherwise.

Red Hand · 22-02-2008 12:21AM

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Not to respond to the troll, but this is a favourite argument of mine:

I think anyone who objects so vehemently to science, whether it be evolution, or animal testing, or genetics, should be refused access to the fruits of science that modern society enjoys. What does that mean?

That means no access to medicines that came about as a result of "unethical" animal or human research - ie all of them. No insulin for diabetics. No cancer drugs. No allergy medication. No (my favourite) bypass machines for Jehova's witnesses who refuse blood transplants.
No access to any form of technology - electronic, steam driven, oil driven, metallurgy, structural engineering.
No access to any form of transport at any time other than the (bare) foot and pack animals.

People with no respect for science should be prepared to live without it methinks.

Mmmmmm...but what if those people were conceived with the help of fertility treatments?:)

Florida adopts 'scientific theory of evolution'

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