Florida adopts 'scientific theory of evolution'

the_syco · 21-02-2008 09:56AM #1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23238493/

TALLAHASSEE, Florida - Florida's State Board of Education has voted to use the term "scientific theory of evolution" in its new science standards, the first time the word "evolution" has been included.

150 years later, they cop on.

A Gallup poll released in June said America is about evenly split over whether evolution is true, despite decades of overwhelming scientific evidence that it is.

^^^ Proof that at least 50% of Americans are brain dead. Isn't that the same amount who voted Bush in? :P

GhostInTheRuins · 21-02-2008 10:04AM

That's crazy.

You left out the best bit:

Florida's current standards require the teaching of evolution using code words like "change over time."

Dyr · 21-02-2008 10:09AM

Did they acutally find the missing link then?

Or are we just accepting mans evolution from de monkeys on faith now?

chopperbyrne · 21-02-2008 10:31AM

Bambi wrote: »

Did they acutally find the missing link then?

Or are we just accepting mans evolution from de monkeys on faith now?

Man did not evolve from monkeys.

If monkeys evolved into man, then there would be no monkeys.

We evolved from a monkey-like creature.

Dyr · 21-02-2008 10:52AM

pics of the missing link or it didnt happen

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-02-2008 11:15AM

So Florida has evolved then. In another 150 years they might jus accept global warming.

Don1 · 21-02-2008 11:19AM

There you go Bambi!

OT - holy crap. That's absolutely crazy. They bang on about islamic fundamentalists and they are pretty much a christian fundamentalists!!

chopperbyrne · 21-02-2008 11:24AM

Bambi wrote: »

pics of the missing link or it didnt happen

Edit: Do IMG tags work on this forum???

ScumLord · 21-02-2008 11:49AM

Don1 wrote: »

There you go Bambi!

OT - holy crap. That's absolutely crazy. They bang on about islamic fundamentalists and they are pretty much a christian fundamentalists!!

It all boils down to religion in the end, it's the crazy Christians vs the mad mullahs.

The_Minister · 21-02-2008 12:14PM

I always find it hilarious, the number of people who will mock those who don't believe in evolution as "retards", but cannot themselves rebut the irreducible complexity arguement applied to the eye.

Note: I do believe in evolution, but nothing pisses me off more than a whiny little Athiest using science that he doesn't understand or even know, to put others down.

seraphimvc · 21-02-2008 01:07PM

As a man of science ,my conclusion to this topic is simply :just a matter of believe or not.

My last sentence of EVERY assignment about evolution....always got me at least 80% i am happy:)

21-02-2008 01:21PM

I personally think this guy is the missing link

Wompa1 · 21-02-2008 01:21PM

How many Americans were polled that made you come to the conclusion that 150,000,000 or so are brain dead??...its exactly the type of ****e I've come to expect on this site...or just in this country in general. RTE had a poll on their site a few months back asking if Al Gore should run for president and the options were a f'in joke, It was nothing but pandering to gob****es like a few of yee on this thread. One of the options was No, The presidency is below him now...They had one yesterday asking what America should use to shoot down the spy satelite and one of the options was George W. Bush...that is our national broadcaster..sad sad sad sad petty bull****

kaimera · 21-02-2008 01:23PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

How many Americans were polled that made you come to the conclusion that 150,000,000 or so are brain dead??...its exactly the type of ****e I've come to expect on this site...or just in this country in general. RTE had a poll on their site a few months back asking if Al Gore should run for president and the options were a f'in joke, It was nothing but pandering to gob****es like a few of yee on this thread. One of the options was No, The presidency is below him now...They had one yesterday asking what America should use to shoot down the spy satelite and one of the options was George W. Bush...that is our national broadcaster..sad sad sad sad petty bull****

wasting your breath tbh.

21-02-2008 01:24PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

.They had one yesterday asking what America should use to shoot down the spy satelite and one of the options was George W. Bush...that is our national broadcaster..sad sad sad sad petty bull****

Thats brilliant.

DaBreno · 21-02-2008 01:48PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

They had one yesterday asking what America should use to shoot down the spy satelite and one of the options was George W. Bush...that is our national broadcaster..sad sad sad sad petty bull****

That is pretty bad from our Nation Broadcaster alright.

A wee, wiry yoke like George would not make much of an impact on a Device built to withstand outer space. In keeping with another thread running in this forum, I would suggest the current Minister for Health would be a far better option. Although moving her into posistion would surely hasten the onset of Peak Oil.

Mully · 21-02-2008 01:56PM

I always like the Evolution Theory episode of Friends ...

PHOEBE: Ok, look, before you even start, I'm not denying evolution, ok, I'm just saying that it's one of the possibilities.

ROSS: It's the only possibility, Phoebe.

PHOEBE: Ok, Ross, could you just open your mind like this much, ok? Wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the world was flat? And, up until like what, 50 years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess of crap came out. Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?

c0rk3r · 21-02-2008 02:01PM

Meh its only a theory. Like everything in science these things are just models of understanding. In 100 years from now how will new theories reshape those models. Will we look back at evolution and laugh at our stupidity ? look at newton laws which have now been surpassed by general relativity and quantum mechanics. When xenu lands in the future all those smirks will be wiped away.

Overheal · 21-02-2008 02:21PM

Mully wrote: »

I always like the Evolution Theory episode of Friends ...

PHOEBE: Ok, look, before you even start, I'm not denying evolution, ok, I'm just saying that it's one of the possibilities.

ROSS: It's the only possibility, Phoebe.

PHOEBE: Ok, Ross, could you just open your mind like this much, ok? Wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the world was flat? And, up until like what, 50 years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess of crap came out. Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?

That quote has stayed my rant

mc nuggets · 21-02-2008 03:26PM

DaBreno wrote: »

A wee, wiry yoke like George would not make much of an impact on a Device built to withstand outer space. In keeping with another thread running in this forum, I would suggest the current Minister for Health would be a far better option. Although moving her into posistion would surely hasten the onset of Peak Oil.

:D Brilliant

EamonnKeane · 21-02-2008 03:27PM

The_Minister wrote: »

I always find it hilarious, the number of people who will mock those who don't believe in evolution as "retards", but cannot themselves rebut the irreducible complexity arguement applied to the eye.

Note: I do believe in evolution, but nothing pisses me off more than a whiny little Athiest using science that he doesn't understand or even know, to put others down.

irreducibly complex?

Ross_Mahon · 21-02-2008 03:37PM

If God made us...Well then he didn't do a good job!

Sam Vimes · 21-02-2008 03:49PM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Man did not evolve from monkeys.

If monkeys evolved into man, then there would be no monkeys.

We evolved from a monkey-like creature.

its entirely possible that there were two groups of the same species of monkey, one of which evolved and one of which didn't. just because one group evolved doesn't necessarily mean they interbred with every other group and completely eradicated their genome.

we did evolve from a monkey like creature because the monkey genome as it exists today didn't exist back then but my point is that just because some members of a species evolve, doesn't mean the old species completely disappears

gondorff · 21-02-2008 04:21PM

I know of a fella who is living evidence that the human race is evolving into monkeys.

The_Minister · 21-02-2008 04:27PM

EamonnKeane wrote: »

irreducibly complex?

Can't open the file, but I'm going to guess that it is a simplified diagram of the eye. If it is, then I must point out that every part of the eye is mind-boggling complex (we would have trouble building a similar machine)

Agamemnon · 21-02-2008 04:33PM

The_Minister wrote: »

Can't open the file, but I'm going to guess that it is a simplified diagram of the eye. If it is, then I must point out that every part of the eye is mind-boggling complex (we would have trouble building a similar machine)

If you think evolutionary theory can't explain the eye, where did it come from so?

The_Minister · 21-02-2008 04:36PM

agamemnon wrote: »

If you think evolutionary theory can't explain the eye, where did it come from so?

If you read my first post, you will see that I said that I do believe in evolution.
As for the eye question, I've asked lecturers in science, and the answers were always pretty bull****ty (along the lines of: it was a heat sensor, then it got better).
I'm sure we will explain it one day.

Dave! · 21-02-2008 06:54PM

The eye:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOpaFVgKPw (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb2fjftZrkE (part 2)

Overheal · 21-02-2008 08:16PM

Okay lets talk about the intelligent design of the computer. First we had analog computers, for centuries. Man invented these things.

Then the digital computer comes about. We now have a binary computing system. These start to evolve in iterations: 2-bit, 4-bit, 8-bit... you were a rich bastard if you could process at a speed of a couple hundred Hertz.

Now, the computer was just a simple unit: Processor, Motherboard, RAM, Input and Output. Shortly on, computers required a need for permanent storage, so floppy disks and hard drives were developed. Then as Computers faced more demands, they developed parts to communicated via phone lines; run complicated 3-Dimensional algorithms; Communicate Wirelessly; etc.

Now, the computer is not a living thing. I am a living thing. You cannot shut me off and put in a brand new organ for telepathy, install a hard drive (because we have none) etc. So if you were a God, or an Alien named Xenu, how best to distribute these updates? Why: through Evolution! Yes! Of Course! I am God: and my people no longer of need for an Appendix - so I will remove it! "Uh, dad: you cant really do that: people would notice if suddenly all newborns had no appendix". Well sonnofobitch, Jesus you're right, so I'll just be patient and remove the Appendix slowly over time...

"Or maybe we can leave it there to test their faith like the Dinosoar bones?"

No, Jesus; thats just stupid.

PeakOutput · 21-02-2008 08:33PM

DaveMcG wrote: »

The eye:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOpaFVgKPw (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb2fjftZrkE (part 2)

got there before me. as you can see from the video this was explained years and years ago

c0rk3r · 21-02-2008 09:31PM

Id say Dawrin would be pissed that someone like Dawkins is using his theory for his own agenda.

Florida adopts 'scientific theory of evolution'

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