Doctors seek ban to remove alcohol from shelves

MIN2511 · 18-02-2008 03:31PM #1

Just came across this, like wtf?

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0218/breaking13.htm

Doctors have called for a ban on the sale of drink in supermarkets, small shops and petrol stations.
The Irish Medical Organisation (IMO) said licences allowing the sale of alcohol in these shops should be phased out.
The group said that Minister for Justice Brian Lenihan had "correctly identified the off licence sector as the major source of our continuing alcohol problem".
"Attempts at a voluntary code have rightly been seen as a futile exercise", said former IMO president Prof Joe Barry.
"Increasing concerns about home drinking have their root in the manner in which supermarkets in particular have marketed alcohol over the past number of years," he added.
He said "profit-seeking behaviour" by supermarkets had taken no account of the health and social consequences of drinking alcohol.
"Off-trade sales should be through specialist off-licences, where issues such as staff training and responsible server programmes, as advocated by the Government's Strategic Task Force on Alcohol, would have more effect."
This afternoon the Minister refused to comment specifically about the IMO proposal saying he would "look at all proposals submitted to the task force".

Dennis the Stone · 18-02-2008 03:36PM

Brian Lenihan needs to relax and have five or six drinks

Mr.Micro · 18-02-2008 03:43PM

Thats an odd request from Doctors, cos as we all know they are renowned for being very fond of the booze. Perhaps their supplies are running low.

monkeyfudge · 18-02-2008 03:45PM

The amount of booze sold in petrol stations does look a bit odd to me though.

Boggles · 18-02-2008 03:46PM

The group said that Minister for Justice Brian Lenihan had "correctly identified the off licence sector as the major source of our continuing alcohol problem".

Brian you Genius you have correctly identified where alcohol comes from!

is_that_so · 18-02-2008 03:48PM

I think it's more aimed at the attitude of supermarkets and other outlets. Easy access day and night to relatively cheap gargle helps build a habit.

Boggles · 18-02-2008 03:48PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think it's more aimed at the attitude of supermarkets and other outlets. Easy access day and night to relatively cheap gargle helps build a habit.

Relative to Robbery!

is_that_so · 18-02-2008 03:48PM

Boggles wrote: »

Relative to Robbery!

Give it up so.

Dragan · 18-02-2008 03:51PM

If someone wants to drink themselves to death then let them.

I'm sick of all this happy hand holding bull****.

Boggles · 18-02-2008 03:52PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Give it up so.

Not on your Nelly.

Degsy · 18-02-2008 04:03PM

If booze was ten quid a can people would buy it,if it was only sold in specialist shops there'd be queues stretching for miles 24 hours a day.If they banned it altogether the ensuing criminal turf wars would make the cocaine epedemic look like the sermon on the mount.We like to drink,thats why we drink.More people are buying booze and drinking it at home because greedy publicans are pricing themselves out of the market.

nikki 122 · 18-02-2008 04:08PM

Boggles wrote: »

The group said that Minister for Justice Brian Lenihan had "correctly identified the off licence sector as the major source of our continuing alcohol problem".

Brian you Genius you have correctly identified where alcohol comes from!

ha ha ur right there he does not seem 2 smart!!!!

Ross_Mahon · 18-02-2008 04:10PM

Do they have nothing against smokes being sold in garages?

Thats bad to your health

18-02-2008 04:31PM

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slipss · 18-02-2008 04:41PM

I think it's a good idea, they should do the same with tobacco, limit its sale to specialised tobacco shops, then legalised cannabis, mdma, cocaine, heroin ect and allow there sale through specialised retailers, then update the garda ID to include a metalic swipe and make it so that anyone that wants to purchase any of these drugs can only do so by swiping one of these cards at the time of purchase.

MIN2511 · 18-02-2008 04:44PM

Then they can castrate us as well, thats a whole lot of bollocks. It's amazing how we vote them in and yet they want to reduce us to mad lunatics...
What next?

zuutroy · 18-02-2008 04:45PM

What a load of bollocks...They have have beer in the canteen fridge where I work, and yet somehow everyone's working at 4:45pm and not singing and smashing each others faces in. Its not availability, its people's attitudes that need sorting out.

ArmaniJeanss · 18-02-2008 04:47PM

The Scientist wrote: »

We should be allowed drink where and when we want.

I agree. Yesterday they asked me and my mates to leave church just for drinking flagons of cider. :mad:

Rob_l · 18-02-2008 04:47PM

Dragan wrote: »

If someone wants to drink themselves to death then let them.

I'm sick of all this happy hand holding bull****.

I agree and hold the same principle for drugs

Stop the nanny state before it gets worse

Dord · 18-02-2008 04:48PM

slipss wrote: »

I think it's a good idea, they should do the same with tobacco, limit its sale to specialised tobacco shops, then legalised cannabis, mdma, cocaine, heroin ect and allow there sale through specialised retailers, then update the garda ID to include a metalic swipe and make it so that anyone that wants to purchase any of these drugs can only do so by swiping one of these cards at the time of purchase.

:rolleyes:

I think it's a load of b0ll0x! I wonder if the Vintners Association is paying them to say that.

buckfast4me · 18-02-2008 04:52PM

I agree with the fine minister, off licenses selling alcohol - disgraceful. What next. Supermarkets selling groceries and bookshops selling books. terrible altogether.

Hoochiemama · 18-02-2008 04:58PM

I wish these people would open their eyes and really look at whats happening. Has the world not learned from America in the 1920's??? Prohibition does NOT work.

PS - buckfast4me - love the name!!! Buckfast for me please!

slipss · 18-02-2008 05:02PM

Joe Robot wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Good argument, well thought out and considered, although it seems suspiciously familiar, wasn't that published as part of a multi-million euro UN report on the topic of drug control?

slipss · 18-02-2008 05:03PM

Ohh I almost forgot, I couldn't think of anything else relevant to say so :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hoochiemama · 18-02-2008 05:08PM

slipss wrote: »

I think it's a good idea, they should do the same with tobacco, limit its sale to specialised tobacco shops, then legalised cannabis, mdma, cocaine, heroin ect and allow there sale through specialised retailers, then update the garda ID to include a metalic swipe and make it so that anyone that wants to purchase any of these drugs can only do so by swiping one of these cards at the time of purchase.

As good a system as that would be it will never happen, in our lifetime at least.

Did anyone watch that documentary last week about the top 20 most dangerous drugs?? Alcohol was 5th - thats higher that tobacco, cannabis, ecstacy & LSD and was said to be kill more people that all these drugs combined per year

Jay P · 18-02-2008 05:13PM

Rubbish! We'll still get drink in the off licences. As all teenagers do, just get someone to go in, and hang around smokin a fag with your hood up :cool: happy days.

Wait a minute, I only ever get drink in an off licence, or my parents drink cabinet. What the shell will this achieve?

Boggles · 18-02-2008 05:53PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I agree. Yesterday they asked me and my mates to leave church just for drinking flagons of cider. :mad:

Well they started it, knocking back that cheap wine!!

5starpool · 18-02-2008 06:03PM

I'm sure the VFI are fully behind this drive 'for the youth of ireland' of course.

Rb · 18-02-2008 06:13PM

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if these doctors were involved financially in the "specialist offlicences".

As someone else said, it's not the availability that's the problem, it's the mentality/attitude. We've adults here who still act like 15 year olds with regards to binge drinking.

I personally don't really care, as I don't drink that much, but it's the fact that they're trying control us that pisses me off.

Also, Brian Lenihan is an absolute retard, sad to say that even McDowell was a huge amount better.

Fighting Irish · 18-02-2008 06:33PM

Its bull****, we all suffer because some people are stupid and can't handle being senseible(sp?)

As i've said before we're all being pussified

_Kaiser_ · 18-02-2008 06:33PM

The reason this is coming up recently is the publicans/off-licenses are pissed because the chain stores are undercutting their prices by a significant margin and they're losing money as a result.

So rather than compete, what do they do? Complain and attempt to have it banned in all other outlets except their own. It's the same as HMV and the rest complaining about people buying DVD's online.

Make no mistake, this is all about money.

Doctors seek ban to remove alcohol from shelves

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