Stardust 27 years on

Splinter · 14-02-2008 12:12PM

my heart and memories go out to them all

Mark

_blank_ · 14-02-2008 12:19PM

Yeah, I'm from the area too, and I won't drink in the Artane House, or whatever they called it. They were going to call it The Silver Swan ffs.

It's a shame that the fúcking cúnts responsible have never faced justice.

Mr Magnolia · 14-02-2008 12:55PM

Sincere condolences to all touched by the events of that night. I'd echo DesF's centiments.

admiralofthefleet · 14-02-2008 01:39PM

watna wrote: »

Admiralofthefleet... that's pretty scary alright! My mum grew up in Coolock but thank god wasn't there that night or even nearly there that night. She knew a lot of families affected though and one of her ex-boyfriend's was killed. Scary stuff indeed.

yeah its pretty scary when i think of it, she knew the mc' dermotts, went to school with helen mangan and hung around with donna mann but like many others she doesnt like talking about it

da1&only · 14-02-2008 01:40PM

Im from the area and just want to offer respects,i didnt know anyone directly as i wasnt even born ,but know some of the families of the victims.

sunnyjim · 14-02-2008 01:57PM

I can see the former location of the stardust from my bedroom window.

My godmother worked there, that was her only night off in a while. She was lucky. My parents, my dads mates, my mams mates and my aunts and uncles all went there regularly. They skipped it that one night to go elsewhere... Luck.

So many things went wrong that night.

Dublin Fire Brigade had no cutting equipment, the emergency doors were locked, the fire was ignored. Tragedy really.

Dudess · 14-02-2008 01:57PM

phasers wrote: »

My dad was meant to go to the stardust that night but something stopped him

it's always so strange to think about what would have happened

I would never be born :eek:

God, that kind of stuff really messes with the head...

togster · 14-02-2008 02:02PM

wasn't even born but RIP everyone and condolonces to all those affected.

steps_3314 · 14-02-2008 02:09PM

Very sad indeed. Thoughts go out to families and all affected.

R.I.P

WindSock · 14-02-2008 02:17PM

I know it is really horrible and sickening what happened, but I'm sure the people responsible for blocking the fire exits have been going through their own personal hell since. Will it really help the families if they were locked up at this stage?

_blank_ · 14-02-2008 02:21PM

WindSock wrote: »

but I'm sure the people responsible for blocking the fire exits have been going through their own personal hell since.

Doubt it.

WindSock · 14-02-2008 02:25PM

DesF wrote: »

Doubt it.

Really? I don't know what human being could not feel remorse everytime they here the name mentioned, or even know everyday that they live they had cut short so many lives out of stupidity.

14-02-2008 02:33PM

RIP to all the victims and my condolences to anyone that was affected by it.

Craig

Unshelved · 14-02-2008 03:10PM

I worked briefly for a law firm involved in the Stardust Tribunal. They made a fortune from it in costs, while the families' compensation was shamefully low. If I remember correctly, the only person who ended up going to prison was the father of one of the victims who snapped and attacked one of the owners.

If it happened somewhere like Clontarf or Ranelagh the outcome might have been different. But it happened in Artane, where people were poorer and didn't have the wherewithall and the connections to get justice.

ericdred · 26-09-2008 09:35AM

1st of all thanks on behalf of all the familes and victims of the stardust for the comments made above.

2ndly

RIP thelma - my sister!!

eric

Loopy · 26-09-2008 10:06AM

Oh Ive just read this thread - so sad, Im blubbing here in work:(

Run_to_da_hills · 26-09-2008 10:07AM

This is Christy Moore singing "They Never came home".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZqW-ya8yms

Perhaps one song that has had a great impact on me was the hit "Vienna" from Ultravox It was possibly number one in the Irish charts at that time. Everytime I hear this track it brings me back memories of the Stardust.

shenanigans1982 · 26-09-2008 10:09AM

phasers wrote: »

My dad was meant to go to the stardust that night but something stopped him

it's always so strange to think about what would have happened

I would never be born :eek:

my thoughts are with the families

Same kinda story for me.

My da and uncle were were refused entry on that night. For years my da told me it was because they were not wearing tie's only found out from my uncle recently it was because they were too drunk, he was telling me how lucky they were because they would never have made it out.

Spent too much time in the snooker hall down there growing up without ever really thinking about what happened there.

A-Train · 26-09-2008 10:12AM

I wasn't born at the time but still hear stories about don't live that far away. The folks use to go but weren't there that night but knew people that were.

Very sad. RIP and justice for the 48.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-09-2008 10:25AM

I remember the night like it was yesterday.

I was babysitting with a girlfriend that night.

We were sitting down listening to the radio (listening to the radio and recording songs from it were big at the time) when news broke that the StarDust was on fire.

The girl's parents were at the fire, but gladly got out unhurt. But we'd a manic night until she found out.

When I visit graves in Balgriffin its really sad to see the graves of some of those who perished.

There's a small memorial down in Beaumont Hospital for the victimes which reads;

'They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them'.

(From the 'Ode of Rememberance).

Sharpshooter · 26-09-2008 10:28AM

l knew the McDermotts and Robbie Kelly very well and some of the girls l went to school with also perished that night , l went to a lot of funerals in those weeks after the fire and l can say to this day they are never far from my thoughts , still live close to where they lived and hung around so there is always something there that will remind me of them.l hope l never forget them.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-09-2008 10:34AM

sharpshooterH wrote: »

l knew the McDermotts and Robbie Kelly very well and some of the girls l went to school with also perished that night , l went to a lot of funerals in those weeks after the fire and l can say to this day they are never far from my thoughts , still live close to where they lived and hung around so there is always something there that will remind me of them.l hope l never forget them.

We must be living in the same area.

I knew a few people who were hurt, and a couple (both died) were brother and sis-in-law of guy I knew (Lawlors).

Sharpshooter · 26-09-2008 10:51AM

Mairt wrote: »

We must be living in the same area.

I knew a few people who were hurt, and a couple (both died) were brother and sis-in-law of guy I knew (Lawlors).

l went out with a guy who lost his brother ( Buckleys )
and you know what l am upset even now at the thought of what they went through , all of them even the ones l didn't know.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-09-2008 10:58AM

sharpshooterH wrote: »

l went out with a guy who lost his brother ( Buckleys )
and you know what l am upset even now at the thought of what they went through , all of them even the ones l didn't know.

Pretty much the same here.

I'm in the Butterly business park at least once a week and everytime I pass those barred up windows I remember the images from the news at the time.

And the front of the building, its hardly changed.

Sharpshooter · 26-09-2008 11:02AM

ericdred wrote: »

1st of all thanks on behalf of all the familes and victims of the stardust for the comments made above.

2ndly

RIP thelma - my sister!!

eric

So sorry about your sis.:(

Sharpshooter · 26-09-2008 11:04AM

Mairt wrote: »

Pretty much the same here.

I'm in the Butterly business park at least once a week and everytime I pass those barred up windows I remember the images from the news at the time.

And the front of the building, its hardly changed.

lts only my opinion but the whole place should have been levelled to the ground. :mad:

Silenceisbliss · 26-09-2008 11:06AM

I did a case study on this incident as an engineering topic a while back, I found it shocking and also interesting.

I hadnt realied that it was so long ago now though.

my condolences

ericdred · 26-09-2008 11:10AM

sharpshooterh, thanks v much, i was very little at the time, and it is all so blurry to me know.

i have asked a question elsewhere on boards, does anyone know if xrays were used to aid in the identification of victims, and if so were sould i go to find out information???

eric

watna · 26-09-2008 11:10AM

Mairt wrote: »

When I visit graves in Balgriffin its really sad to see the graves of some of those who perished.

+1

My Grandad is buried in Balgriffin and I always remember seeing the graves of the victims. I remember asking my mum when I was a quite young why some people had died but they were young (I thought only old people died) and she explained to me about stardust and how she remembered it. It's funny how you mentioning Balgriffin brought that memory back.

Sharpshooter · 26-09-2008 11:22AM

ericdred wrote: »

sharpshooterh, thanks v much, i was very little at the time, and it is all so blurry to me know.

i have asked a question elsewhere on boards, does anyone know if xrays were used to aid in the identification of victims, and if so were sould i go to find out information???

eric

Now l can't be certain but l am sure they would have tried everything, dental records would be another one .
Someone was identified by the material of their suit.
But yes if anyone who died was unidentified and say had
broken an arm earlier in their life then X rays would be taken to see if it was the same person.
l am not sure where you would get the information from though , maybe someone else that reads this thread might be able to help with that.:)

Stardust 27 years on

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