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Man jailed for four years in Dubai for 0.003grammes of Cannabis

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Mr.S wrote: »
    remember that study that showed most of the Irish euro notes had cocaine residue or something on them?

    what if they checked your wallet and saw that :o
    First thing that came into my head was that they don't seem to have any problem with the inflow of Euro / US Dollar Notes which have traces of coke on the majority of them.

    A question for any followers of Islam on this forum: with behaviour like this from an Islamic country that's regarded as pretty moderate compared to the likes of Iran etc. can you see why so many westerners are starting to hear 'Muslim' as a 'scary' word?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Scratches Saudi from list of places to go, ever.

    To sleepy - I think Saudi Arabia Sharia Law is considered to be very harsh, not moderate. Do you have links?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    Dubai
    Morocco
    Majorca
    Iraq

    Places to strike off your list of places to see before you die. Dubai moves into first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    This post has been deleted.

    +1

    Was thinking of bringing the g/f here.
    Gonna head somewhere else, and won't be giving any money to a country as f*cked up as that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TJJP


    No smoke without fire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Mweelrea


    A Rastafarian with cannabis? What's the world coming to?

    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    I was in Dubai last summer for a day, and Abu Dhabi the year previous, wearing runners that had probably got bits of everything on them from a few months wear in Australian and Thai pubs and clubs, man do I feel lucky! The country, the religion, the law, its all ridiculous. How they can see this arrest and prosecution as rational is beyond me. And if they don't see it as rational and they are just arresting Western people for the sake of it then it speaks volumes about their mindsets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭irishconvert


    Sleepy wrote: »
    A question for any followers of Islam on this forum: with behaviour like this from an Islamic country that's regarded as pretty moderate compared to the likes of Iran etc. can you see why so many westerners are starting to hear 'Muslim' as a 'scary' word?

    That comment is almost as stupid as the decision by the Dubai authorities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    +1

    Was thinking of bringing the g/f here.
    Gonna head somewhere else, and won't be giving any money to a country as f*cked up as that.

    Bring her to Amsterdam, the Saudis will be losing a tiny but of money to a decent country. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    That comment is almost as stupid as the decision by the Dubai authorities.

    I 100% agree with Sleepy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭irishconvert


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    I 100% agree with Sleepy.
    I agree they (Dubai authorities) are way over the top here but why would that make you scared of Muslims in general?????? There are stupid people from all religions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    I agree they (Dubai authorities) are way over the top here but why would that make you scared of Muslims in general?????? There are stupid people from all religions.

    Of course there are, but I wouldn't feel at risk of being jailed for nothing (which is what this is btw) in non-Muslim countries really.

    I wouldn't be scared of Muslims in general, but Muslim states in general, yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭irishconvert


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Of course there are, but I wouldn't feel at risk of being jailed for nothing (which is what this is btw) in non-Muslim countries really.

    I'm sure this man (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1305421,00.html) didn't feel at risk of being jailed for nothing in a Christan country either. Neither did the Guildford four or Birmingham six.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    I'm sure this man (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1305421,00.html) didn't feel at risk of being jailed for nothing in a Christan country either. Neither did the Guildford four or Birmingham six.

    Nope, but then again, I've been to Birmingham and not felt threatened in the slightest. Dubai was another story. Though it might have been the 45 degree heat that did it to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    And people then wonder why I DONT ever want to go 'travelling' for the year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Of course there are, but I wouldn't feel at risk of being jailed for nothing (which is what this is btw) in non-Muslim countries really.

    Drug laws abroad
    There are currently more than 1,500 Britons in foreign jails for drug offences. Before you pack that ounce, you may want to read on.

    Death penalty
    Algeria, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand.

    Heavy prison sentences
    Cyprus: zero tolerance policy towards drugs and possession will usually lead to a hefty fine or even life imprisonment
    Greece: possession of even small quantities of drugs can lead to lengthy and even life imprisonment
    South East Asia: sentences of 40 to 50 years are not uncommon

    Harsh sentences
    India: 10 years for smoking cannabis
    Italy: Up to 20 years imprisonment
    Jamaica: Drug offences result in mandatory prison sentences and large fines. Possession of even small quantities can lead to imprisonment
    Morocco: Maximum of 10 years imprisonment plus a fine.
    Spain: Sentences for carrying can be up to 12 years
    Tunisia: Possession of even a small amount of drugs could cost you a term in prison, while more serious charges may even result in 20 years imprisonment plus a fine
    Turkey: Up to 20 years imprisonment
    Venezuela: Drug carriers face minimum 10-year prison sentences in harsh conditions

    Btw, Saudi Arabia, which imposes a strict version of Islamic law, is the only country in the world where women are banned from driving. Religious authorities say allowing women to drive would lead to gender-mixing and take women away from their role as child-rearers. Doesn't sound moderate Sleepy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    the united states is holding several hundred people for no other reason than 'they looked arab and were holding a gun in a warzone' and probably torturing alot of people too... you see why rational, decent people are afraid of christians?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    the united states is holding several hundred people for no other reason than 'they looked arab and were holding a gun in a warzone' and probably torturing alot of people too... you see why rational, decent people are afraid of christians?

    Maybe thats why I feel safe in the United States, I don't look Arab. Arabs in the US have every right to feel threatened in the States, same way I wouldn't be too comfortable walking around Dubai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭irishconvert


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Arabs in the US have every right to feel threatened in the States.

    Explain please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭blah


    I was considering going to New Zealand in a few months and some of the cheaper flights go through Dubai. Assuming that this is true, I will make sure never to go near there. It could have been me picking up a small amount on my shoe if I was to walk behind that guy. :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Arabs in the US have every right to feel threatened in the States
    the united states is holding several hundred people for no other reason than 'they looked arab and were holding a gun in a warzone' and probably torturing alot of people too... you see why rational, decent people are afraid of christians?
    Explain please

    Because they are all treated as suspects. Its paranoia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭irishconvert


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Because they are all treated as suspects. Its paranoia.
    But you are saying an Arab hs every right to feel threatened in the States. Do you think an Irishman in the 1980's in London had a right to feel threatened also? Do you think it is right that people are judged on their race, religion or nationality?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    blah wrote: »
    I was considering going to New Zealand in a few months and some of the cheaper flights go through Dubai. Assuming that this is true, I will make sure never to go near there. It could have been me picking up a small amount on my shoe if I was to walk behind that guy. :eek:

    My daughter and her friend had just set off on that route (only to Australia) when the news broke last week about Dubai. This time she got through no problem, but I hope that she doesn't tread on anything before she comes back.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    Thats absolute madness. Sorry, but I can't think of anything funny to say.

    *gets up and leaves*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    I think dj grooverider is in jail there for the same reason. he's not so big now, but was huge in england back in the oldskool days. he had porn on him as well though, thats a definite niche niche over there.
    that list of countries where you shouldn't do it is pretty accurate, except spain, not sure about hard drugs there but their cannabis policy is pretty relaxed, you're even allowed have a plant or two afaik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    But you are saying an Arab hs every right to feel threatened in the States.

    I'm saying they more than likely do, I'm not saying that its right at all.
    Do you think an Irishman in the 1980's in London had a right to feel threatened also?

    Damn sure they did, and with good reason too. The IRA were at the height of their powers and every Irish person was being treated as a suspect, of course they felt threatened. People with Irish surnames were at risk of being detained for questioning at airports and ports for no other reason than a few fada's.
    Do you think it is right that people are judged on their race, religion or nationality?

    Of course not, but unfortunately we don't live in a picture perfect world. Arabs in the US feel threatened, Westerners in the Middle-East feel threatened, the world keeps turning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    But you are saying an Arab hs every right to feel threatened in the States. Do you think an Irishman in the 1980's in London had a right to feel threatened also? Do you think it is right that people are judged on their race, religion or nationality?

    having a right to feel threatened is different to the thing that makes them feel threatened being right. Bottom line, cultures that are this diametrically opposed don't mix well. Now, i have no intention of ever going to any of the arab nations(the heat in may here nearly killed me last year) but how anyone could seem attracted to go to a nation where a man got arrested from eating a poppy seed roll is beyond me. It a great shame as there's a lot of culture and history that many would find interesting if they didn't have to experience it from prison...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It's unfortunate though, in some places (which will remain nameless) that known drug-dealers, claiming benefits, ride around in brand-new limos, apparently completely ignored by the local "law-enforcement officers".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    biko wrote: »
    Before you pack that ounce, you may want to read on.

    Death penalty
    Algeria, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand.

    Heavy prison sentences
    Cyprus: zero tolerance policy towards drugs and possession will usually lead to a hefty fine or even life imprisonment
    Greece: possession of even small quantities of drugs can lead to lengthy and even life imprisonment
    South East Asia: sentences of 40 to 50 years are not uncommon

    Harsh sentences
    India: 10 years for smoking cannabis
    Italy: Up to 20 years imprisonment
    Jamaica: Drug offences result in mandatory prison sentences and large fines. Possession of even small quantities can lead to imprisonment
    Morocco: Maximum of 10 years imprisonment plus a fine.
    Spain: Sentences for carrying can be up to 12 years
    Tunisia: Possession of even a small amount of drugs could cost you a term in prison, while more serious charges may even result in 20 years imprisonment plus a fine
    Turkey: Up to 20 years imprisonment
    Venezuela: Drug carriers face minimum 10-year prison sentences in harsh conditions.
    Yes, ounce being the word. I doubt any of those places would give those sentences for a bit of hash the size of a grain of sugar. Wonder how they even saw it.

    Some harsh laws are in place to catch dealers who never handle the stuff. You might see lads in papers here getting apparently harsh sentences for a gram or 2, but they are probably scumbags laughing in the gardais faces all day long, with other people doing their dirty work. I first thought maybe this lad was known and so searched and threw the book at him, but then it listed all the others.

    The banknote thing also crossed my mind. The scrap of hash is bad, the poppy seeds is ridiculous, it would be easily planted on someone too.

    I wonder what everybody involved was thinking about it, how much is it going to cost to process the arrest, trial and imprisonment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭robinph


    With that kind of checking your are basically guaranteed to a four year sentence just from being stopped by the airport security as they will be able to find that kind of amount on everybody. They must have 100% conviction for everybody they don't like the look of passing through their airports.


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