Child discipline . Smacking - Yea or Nay

AckwelFoley · 12-02-2008 06:24PM #1

Do you believe smacking kids of any age is a proper form of discipline?

I am very much against it.

Discuss...

Stephen · 12-02-2008 06:25PM

Yes. Just a smack across the arse like, don't beat the sh1te out of them. I deserved it a few times as a kid!

Tar.Aldarion · 12-02-2008 06:26PM

I am very much against it.

Discuss...

Rb · 12-02-2008 06:28PM

Well they have to learn somehow.

Kids don't listen well.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 12-02-2008 06:29PM

rb_ie wrote: »

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Kids don't listen well.

....because aduls are ****ing ****e communicators....

Now someone please spank me for getting suckered into this dbate AGAIN

Pighead · 12-02-2008 06:30PM

snyper wrote: »

Do you believe smacking kids of any age is a proper form of discipline?

I am very much against it.

Discuss...

Depends.
If you were Pigheads kid=For.
Anybody else=Against.

Fratton Fred · 12-02-2008 06:31PM

Stephen wrote: »

Yes. Just a smack across the arse like, don't beat the sh1te out of them. I deserved it a few times as a kid!

what he said

vorbis · 12-02-2008 06:33PM

I would be for it. there is unforunately too much "communication" these days with kids. If your darling 8 eyar old has just broken 2 windows, you don't need to "reason" with him. Why an adult feels the need to justify themselves to a kid I'll never know. A smack on the arse can let them know quickly and simply that what they did was wrong.

Saint_Mel · 12-02-2008 06:33PM

I agree with Stephen. No harm in reddening the arse of a bold child but not a beating them.
That was the way I was brought up and it did me no harm. Some kids get away with murder because the never get disiciplined and they dont know any different

TPD · 12-02-2008 06:36PM

I voted 'for' - kids understand a bit of pain a lot easier than the reason their actions were wrong. I dont mean beating the crap out of the kid, just a reddening of the arse as mentioned before. I'd be ashamed if I had a kid who was one of them rude wee cnuts hollering abuse at people cos his parents were too worried to stop him.

AckwelFoley · 12-02-2008 06:37PM

I dont think there is a reason for it when you can say it instead.

I remember a kid at mass* (about 4) was pulling on his dads leg.. the father turned around after asking him to stop and smacked him on the arm or arse, i cant remember, but wat i do remember is the kid looking up in shock and crying and then huggin his fathers leg, the poor kid felt so betrayed snd didnt seem to know why he was hit. I vowed to never smack a child after seeing that. Ive seen parents that i kno that discipline their kids without hitting them and it works well.

*must be about 15 years ago since i was at mass!!

12-02-2008 06:39PM

I'm all for it. However my parents used to use other tactics; they'd use psychological attacks rather than physical. When we were 7 or so, whenever my brother or myself acted up they'd go over to the phonebook, leaf through it and open the page where the numbers of Orphanages would be. She would then dial a number and say, "Hello? Orphanage? I've got 2 boys who wont be quiet" at which point we'd be balling our eyes out begging not to be taken away. We eventually discovered she'd always just ring the automated time system.

Always worked though

Pighead · 12-02-2008 06:41PM

snyper wrote: »

I remember a kid at mass* (about 4) was pllling on his dads leg..

Wait a second you're saying that you seen a 4 year old kid pilling on his fathers leg? To be fair if any of Pigheads kids start taking drugs before the age of 10 you can be damn sure they'll get the beating of a lifetime.

AckwelFoley · 12-02-2008 06:42PM

to the phonebook, leaf through it and open the page where the numbers of Orphanages would be

Now thats what im talking about !!!

Pherekydes · 12-02-2008 06:43PM

Use of an implement I would baulk at, (stick, brushhandle) but slapping (open-handed), kicking, punching, pulling hair, etc. are all fine.

What should be allowed is carry-over slapping. Any unused slapping can be carried over and used against other peoples kids you see misbehaving. I've been saving up for 7 months now.

AckwelFoley · 12-02-2008 06:45PM

Slow coach wrote: »

Use of an implement I would baulk at, (stick, brushhandle) but slapping (open-handed), kicking, punching, pulling hair, etc. are all fine.

What should be allowed is carry-over slapping. Any unused slapping can be carried over and used against other peoples kids you see misbehaving. I've been saving up for 7 months now.

My mother would use anything she could lift over her head to beat me with.

.. Man that dog fido left bruises on me.

Sugar Drunk · 12-02-2008 06:45PM

Im for it. A slap now mind not a beating.

I cant tolerate the new parenting ideas of justifying everything to kids and having to reason with them and constantly pandering to their wants. kids have got to learn that they cannot always get their own way. And all this crap about 'oh he is not bold he has ADHD'. Now dont get me wrong there are kids out there who actually do suffer from this but the amount of times you hear it as an excuse is unreal. maybe his boldness has to do with the complete lack of disclipline and all the junk you allow him to eat?

A mate has 2 kids and it drives me crazy. There are no rules. They do not have a bedtime, they go when they like. They are allowed to dictate the TV and tantrums ensue if they cannot watch what they want. The other day he wouldnt eat in the living room as 'I dont let the boys do it so its not fair If I do it'. b**locks. there are different rules for adults and kids and kids should not be expecting the same rights as adults. Theres no concept of money either just 'i want' and tears of they don't get.

you can always spot these kids as they get older as they get a right shock at work and school when they realise the world does not owe them a favour and they cant always get what they want

Its amazing what a good slap on the @rse can fix!!!:D
The mad thing is that if a child knows they will get a slap for misbehaving they learn not to do it in the first place. If a kid got a slap for throwing a tantrum they wouldnt be in a hurry to do it again

AckwelFoley · 12-02-2008 06:49PM

Sugar Drunk wrote: »

A mate has 2 kids and it drives me crazy. There are no rules. They do not have a bedtime, they go when they like. They are allowed to dictate the TV and tantrums ensue if they cannot watch what they want.

Thats just poor parenting.

Why is it acceptable to smack a kid when they dont do as they're told, yet when a man gives the wife a little tap across the jaw with the back of the hand as a reminder not to forget to clean behind the toilet its frowned upon?

The Real B-man · 12-02-2008 07:08PM

Ahh Jaysus a slap is mild i used to get hit with the flex off the kettle! Now thats Child Abuse for ya haha no i was a little terror

Peared · 12-02-2008 07:10PM

What kind of message do kids get when people much bigger and stronger than them inflict pain on them to get them to do their will? And we wonder why there are so many little f*uckers out there.

If you (feel you) have to slap you are a sh*t parent.

Duggy747 · 12-02-2008 07:15PM

I'm for smacking in deserved cases, obviously not in the ol' "Steel boot to the teeth" beating. Me and my siblings got our lashings when we were kids (the odd time with the much-dreaded wooden spoon) but most times it was for bad things we'd done and had deserved, didn't leave me with any Vietnam-like flashbacks or freak-outs when someone raised a hand to me.

The idea of smacking is not to hit them everytime but to deter the little punks from doing something bad again. Reasoning is more-so for young teenagers.

Anyways, I wouldn't always hit my kids...........I'd probably make them dance by shooting my pistol at their feet or chase them with my flick-knife.

Lockstep · 12-02-2008 07:17PM

My folks used to whack me with wooden spoons.

I soon grew wise and when a smack was incoming, I'd wear a sweater around my waist to lessen the blow.

Sadly my little brother and sister don't get any such nice treatment.

I was an awful child.

themadchef · 12-02-2008 07:28PM

Oh the good old days, my mother had a "Sally rod". Very rarely got a crack with it but when i did...it stung like a bee.

It was hung over the sacred heart picture in the sitting room

great place to put it. She would break into holy chants of "mother of god save me from killing them" lol when i think of it..we were a force to be reckoned with, and really deserved it in hindsight.

There were seven of us and 5 of us were all so close in age it must have been next to impossible for her to keep smacht on us, as she put it. A roar form dad was enough though.

So yes with a capital "Y "from me for slapping (minus the rod tho) just a crisp clean wallop across the cheeks of their arses, only the once (not a hammering).

Helix · 12-02-2008 08:15PM

Saint_Mel wrote: »

Some kids get away with murder because the never get disiciplined and they dont know any different

no, they know its wrong, they just werent brought up to realise that there were repercussions for them if they misbehaved

TequilaMockingBird · 12-02-2008 08:28PM

I am shocked. The fact that so many adults here feel they have a right to hit a child is stunning.

If you think there is no other option rather than beat your child, you have seriously fu*cked up rearing that child.

You cannot beat a peadophile, rapist, murderer within the law, but you feel you can a child?

:mad:

Pighead · 12-02-2008 08:34PM

sueme wrote: »

I am shocked. The fact that so many adults here feel they have a right to hit a child is stunning.

If you think there is no other option rather than beat your child, you have seriously fu*cked up rearing that child.

You cannot beat a peadophile, rapist, murderer within the law, but you feel you can a child?

:mad:

Relax the cacks there Preachy McPreacherson. We're talking about a little slap on the arse here. Whats that got to do with beating up paedophiles! My word such a leap.

Thats like Pighead saying "You people are horrible maggots of society, you think its ok to let our children on sunbeds yet we're not allowed to throw rapists onto bonfires :mad:"

Cianos · 12-02-2008 08:34PM

Funny that nearly everyone who said that they were slapped when they were a kid also say they were little terrors. Coincidence?

Rb · 12-02-2008 08:39PM

Sugar Drunk wrote: »

I cant tolerate the new parenting ideas of justifying everything to kids and having to reason with them and constantly pandering to their wants. kids have got to learn that they cannot always get their own way. And all this crap about 'oh he is not bold he has ADHD'.

The ADHD thing is an excuse that is slipping in from the states, over there they think half the kinds have it because their parenting is fcking awful. Parents will pass the blame for their kids behaviour on to anything but themselves and it's an absolute disgrace. Look at the kids who've had weird/bad upbringings who go shoot some other kid(s), the parents will blame whatever they can be it society, music or even video games.

Children do not understand "reason" or feel really feel the consequences if they misbehave, unless they get a bit of a slap. Also, there's thousands of cases whereby one parent disciplines the child, then the other parent will let them off the hook behind their partners back. How is the child to understand then? A bit of a slap will do them absolutely no harm and will teach them that if they do something wrong, there will be consequences that will actually affect them.

TequilaMockingBird · 12-02-2008 08:47PM

Pighead wrote: »

Relax the cacks there Preachy McPreacherson. We're talking about a little slap on the arse here. Whats that got to do with beating up paedophiles! My word such a leap.

Thats like Pighead saying "You people are horrible maggots of society, you think its ok to let our children on sunbeds yet we're not allowed to throw rapists onto bonfires :mad:"

Such a leap indeed...

If you met me,Pighead and I behaved badly, would you feel you could give me a little slap on the arse?

My point, as you are well aware, is that it is not appropriate to strike anyone, its just not. Much as some deserve a good slap. Striking a child is outrageous.

Dudess · 12-02-2008 08:49PM

snyper wrote: »

I remember a kid at mass* (about 4) was pulling on his dads leg.. the father turned around after asking him to stop and smacked him on the arm or arse, i cant remember, but wat i do remember is the kid looking up in shock and crying and then huggin his fathers leg, the poor kid felt so betrayed snd didnt seem to know why he was hit.

Well that's a scenario where I'd disagree with physical punishment. The kid might have been getting on his dad's nerves but what he was doing was essentially good-natured and it was very unkind of his father to smack him - that sent really hostile signals out to a child who was only being a child.

sueme wrote: »

I am shocked. The fact that so many adults here feel they have a right to hit a child is stunning.

If you think there is no other option rather than beat your child, you have seriously fu*cked up rearing that child.

You cannot beat a peadophile, rapist, murderer within the law, but you feel you can a child?

Sueme, people are going out of their way to emphasise that they don't agree with administering of child beatings. Where on earth is the above coming from?
I would have no problem with a child getting... not a slap, but a little bit of a nudge now and again when they're behaving obnoxiously. My mate and her boyfriend will deliver said "nudge" to their small fella when he's being rude to his grandparents (who let him away with it) and I think it's perfectly appropriate. As people have pointed out, how can you "reason" with a five-year-old?

That said, while I defend other people, I don't know if I could put a hand to a child myself. I don't even like putting my hand to the dog - well a tiny tip, but that's probably all I could manage with a child. Maybe that's enough though - it's not that I'd want to inflict pain on them, it's more kinda like... you know the way when someone (adult or child) is picking at the party food before the guests arrive and the food preparer goes over and gives them a tiny slap on the hand to stop them from doing any more picking - that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. A "stopping in the tracks" as it were.

Slidey · 12-02-2008 08:49PM

I'm what most people would comsider an average person i think. 27 now, and have what i would consider brilliant parents. If on the rare ocasions i did something wrong and new at the time what i was doing i got a clip across the back of the head from my mother, the same went for my younger brother and older sister. I believe it did none of us any harm and we had respect for what ws right and wrong.
My younger sister grew up with out this as the parents got soft with her and i often hear her swearing at them and carrying on like the spoily brat that she is..
Think a month under my rules would put her right..
I dont have any kids but i turned out alright and I believe that the threat if a wooden spoon is no harm

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