English Premier League Have Another Stupid Idea

shane86 · 07-02-2008 03:01PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

wonder would we get united v liverpool in croker?:)

whiskeyman wrote: »

Man Yoo Vs Liverpool in Croker anyone?

Id like to here from the EL supporters here........

Sh1te idea imo. Do we really want to be hosting a large amount of Ingerland fans in Dublin on a regular basis?

Mr Alan · 07-02-2008 03:01PM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

What does that mean? Whats wrong with the NFL?

Nothing is "wrong" with the NFL, but American football and Football are two different sports. In the same way i dont think Football should be run or organised like golf is, i dont see the NFLs way of doing things as being one that should be replicated by European leagues in order to simply increase revenue.

Football in Europe has a lot of history and tradition attatched to it, this should not be destroyed by the marketing men who dont really care about the game. (perhaps it already has been)

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

300,000 were watching the Superbowl ending at 3am on Monday morning (not even a bank holiday) on BBC alone in the UK. The game was also shown on Sky.

how many people were watching the X-Factor final? Does that mean that is the way the music industry should be run?

I watched the Superbowl myself(and quite enjoyed it), but it is very "american", for want of a better word. Football shouldnt be.

_blank_ · 07-02-2008 03:02PM

Jazzy wrote: »

well in fairness Des, u have said before how the only real liverpool fan u know that lives here uses all his holiday time and days off every year to go see them play. and you think that it is reasonable...
giving up that much to be (at the end of the day) entertained is INSANE and if thats the standard u put your expectations at u can expect ppl to rip the piss outta ya

You see.

Some people see football as a product, purely there to entertain them. (these are the people who are advocating this idea, imo).

To others, football means a bit more than that.

This idea is ridiculous by the way.

It's a chance for day trippers to not have to make a day trip.

MrJoeSoap · 07-02-2008 03:02PM

DesF wrote: »

Some people see football as a product, purely there to entertain them. (these are the people who are advocating this idea, imo).

To others, football means a bit more than that.

Spoken like a true First Division fan! That league couldn't entertain to save its life!

You going tonight?

_blank_ · 07-02-2008 03:06PM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

You going tonight?

Yeah, to see me mates the Kearneys.

Oh, and Georgie.

Jazzy · 07-02-2008 03:11PM

DesF wrote: »

You see.

Some people see football as a product, purely there to entertain them. (these are the people who are advocating this idea, imo).

To others, football means a bit more than that.

thats super duper and all, but just like religious fanatics who try and impose that their way of thinking is better and superior to the ppl who "just dont know" you can expect to get ripped on. You are level 10 at football Des

_blank_ · 07-02-2008 03:13PM

Jazzy wrote: »

thats super duper and all, but just like religious fanatics who try and impose that their way of thinking is better and superior to the ppl who "just dont know" you can expect to get ripped on.

Youa re comparing me to a religious fanatic?

Nice, maybe I should declare a jihad on you?

Jazzy wrote: »

You are level 10 at football Des

I don't even know what this means tbh.

I never claim to be "better" than anyone else.

People can do whatever the fúck they want tbh.

Bounty Hunter · 07-02-2008 03:13PM

completley off topic i know but Man utd vs Liverpool or any other prem game would not be allowed to be played at Croker ever by the GAA. letting the national team play there when lansdowne road is out of order is one thing having two English teams play there trying to get more revenue / promotion for the English game / league is one hell of another thing alltogether.

Tusky · 07-02-2008 03:18PM

DesF wrote: »

I never claim to be "better" than anyone else.

!

MrJoeSoap · 07-02-2008 03:19PM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Not going to happen. Allowing soccer in was hard enough, allowing an English Premier League match? Forget about it.

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

completley off topic i know but Man utd vs Liverpool or any other prem game would not be allowed to be played at Croker ever by the GAA. letting the national team play there when lansdowne road is out of order is one thing having two English teams play there trying to get more revenue / promotion for the English game / league is one hell of another thing alltogether.

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_blank_ · 07-02-2008 03:20PM

Tusky wrote: »

!

Go on and quote me saying it.

You seem to like quoting me.

If you find one quote from me claiming to be better than anybody I'll stop posting on Soccer, and stop annoying the Premierleague fans.

Mr Alan · 07-02-2008 03:20PM

I'm better than Des.

At everything.

Fact.

Trampas · 07-02-2008 03:24PM

I am surprised nobody has mentioned the excuse the managers will use after one of these games.

"The players are tired after there flight back from Japan."

with the extra couple of million in their back pockets

Tusky · 07-02-2008 03:24PM

DesF wrote: »

Go on and quote me saying it.

You seem to like quoting me.

If you find one quote from me claiming to be better than anybody I'll stop posting on Soccer, and stop annoying the Premierleague fans.

I LOVE quoting you.

_blank_ · 07-02-2008 03:26PM

Tusky wrote: »

I LOVE quoting you.

Well then, if you are going to accuse me of stuff, prove it.

Or STFU tbh.

You are making yourself look a little bit silly.

Villain · 07-02-2008 03:29PM

Ok so it is a stupid idea for all the reasons others has stated HOWEVER:

The Premier League's income from the sale of overseas TV rights has already increased from £178m in 2001 to £625m for the current deal that runs until 2010.

Broadcaster NowTV paid around £100m for the rights to Hong Kong alone.

Small clubs need money to try and compete with the larger clubs and well if they want money this is one way of getting it!!!

MrJoeSoap · 07-02-2008 03:32PM

Villain wrote: »

Small clubs need money to try and compete with the larger clubs and well if they want money this is one way of getting it!!!

I am assuming the bigger clubs will also get money so the gap won't actually narrow at all...

leninbenjamin · 07-02-2008 03:35PM

Jesus F%cking H Christ.

Calm down the lot of ye.

it's one game. it'll be one game out of 39. all the clubs agreed. clearly they are willing to accept the chance of the fixture not necessarily being a favourable one in order to reap the financial benefits, so why can't the fans?

anyone who thinks the premiership is completely fair in it's fixture list as it is are deluding themselves. some teams always get good luck and bad luck in the creation of the fixtures, coupled with TV f*cks up any chances of the season being completely fair. Like United not having to play Chelsea until the end of the season last year perhaps? that suited United's prospects a lot better than Chelsea's. if anything the prospect of an extra might add a bit more spice to the run ins.

this is the type of thing that could cement the premiership as the biggest league in the world. that would be good for you the fans of said premiership clubs you know.

prendy · 07-02-2008 03:36PM

thinking bout this, and the only way i can see it working is take one game week out of the 38 and play all 10 matches abroad.
pick a week at random....say week 10 then draw for a city to play each one in. that way each team has an equal chance of "losing" a home game but if its done over a few years it'll even itself out.

as said before a 39 game season is unfair.

and as for the poster who said the PL has a higher profile than NFL....WTF????
a BILLION people watch the superbowl every year.

Villain · 07-02-2008 03:40PM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

I am assuming the bigger clubs will also get money so the gap won't actually narrow at all...

There's a difference of a gap being some clubs being able to spend 40 million a year and others able to spend 10 million a year and than if the bugger clubs have say 60 million a year and the smaller have 20 million, i.e. the smaller clubs could buy more players from abroad.

I'm not saying I agree with the idea just stating why clubs may agree, imo it would create a huge divide between the Championship and Premier League.

Mr Alan · 07-02-2008 03:42PM

who said the the PL has a higher profile than the NFL?

Villain · 07-02-2008 03:43PM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Jesus F%cking H Christ.

Calm down the lot of ye.

it's one game. it'll be one game out of 39.

All 10 extra games would be played abroad under this idea, jesus how about reading the proposal before posting?

MrJoeSoap · 07-02-2008 03:45PM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Jesus F%cking H Christ.

Calm down the lot of ye.

Us calm down? Us??

leninbenjamin wrote: »

it's one game. it'll be one game out of 39. all the clubs agreed. clearly they are willing to accept the chance of the fixture not necessarily being a favourable one in order to reap the financial benefits, so why can't the fans?

No, the clubs agreed to "explore the proposals", huge difference. Should the fans have to agree with the clubs on this one?

leninbenjamin wrote: »

anyone who thinks the premiership is completely fair in it's fixture list as it is are deluding themselves. some teams always get good luck and bad luck in the creation of the fixtures, coupled with TV f*cks up any chances of the season being completely fair. Like United not having to play Chelsea until the end of the season last year perhaps? that suited United's prospects a lot better than Chelsea's. if anything the prospect of an extra might add a bit more spice to the run ins.

The current Premiership fixture system is as fair as it could ever be. The proposed system is not, it is much less fair. If you play each team home and away once each season then you cannot complain about the fixtures, unless somehow you have to play a high number of games in a short period of time. United had no benefit from playing Chelsea at the end of last season, fixtures-wise.

leninbenjamin wrote: »

this is the type of thing that could cement the premiership as the biggest league in the world. that would be good for you the fans of said premiership clubs you know.

Because of more money? More money doesn't automatically mean better football or a better league.

MrJoeSoap · 07-02-2008 03:47PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

who said the the PL has a higher profile than the NFL?

You said you don't want the PL to go down the same road as the NFL, which I'm still confused about. What road is that?

MrJoeSoap · 07-02-2008 03:48PM

prendy wrote: »

and as for the poster who said the PL has a higher profile than NFL....WTF????
a BILLION people watch the superbowl every year.

Nobody said that, what? There is no way on this earth that 1 Billion people watch the Superbowl every year. You going to back that up?

ditpoker · 07-02-2008 03:48PM

havent read through this thread completely so apologies if it has been mentioned. but why not leave this out of the premier league and maybel apply it to the FA cup.

for example... one of the quarter finals gets played on foreign soil?

Mr Alan · 07-02-2008 03:49PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Nothing is "wrong" with the NFL, but American football and Football are two different sports. In the same way i dont think Football should be run or organised like golf is, i dont see the NFLs way of doing things as being one that should be replicated by European leagues in order to simply increase revenue.

Football in Europe has a lot of history and tradition attatched to it, this should not be destroyed by the marketing men who dont really care about the game. (perhaps it already has been)

how many people were watching the X-Factor final? Does that mean that is the way the music industry should be run?

I watched the Superbowl myself(and quite enjoyed it), but it is very "american", for want of a better word. Football shouldnt be.

not typing it up again.

Jazzy · 07-02-2008 03:50PM

DesF wrote: »

Youa re comparing me to a religious fanatic?

yes because the principle is the same.

DesF wrote:

I don't even know what this means tbh.

I never claim to be "better" than anyone else.

People can do whatever the fúck they want tbh.

well, u have implied many times that you know wat "real fans" are and the expectations that they have to live up to. my whole thing about "level 10" is just ripping the piss cos u seem to have all these fans on different tiers. there is "Olé Olé'rs", "Barstoolers", "TV fans" and right at the creamy summit is u and a select other few LoI'rs (and that INSANE liverpool fan u know) who manage to live up to your expectations and achieve a high Theton level.
just because u live up to your own expectations doesnt give u this divine right to tell other ppl how much they support their club, unless ofc its done in jest. ppl who do that more then usually have their head somewhere very uncomfortable and you wouldnt want to come off looking like that, would you?

MrJoeSoap · 07-02-2008 03:51PM

ditpoker wrote: »

havent read through this thread completely so apologies if it has been mentioned. but why not leave this out of the premier league and maybel apply it to the FA cup.

for example... one of the quarter finals gets played on foreign soil?

I don't think fans would appreciate it. I know I certainly wouldn't like it if my team made a quarter final and it was moved to Hong Kong or Taiwan.

ditpoker · 07-02-2008 03:51PM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Nobody said that, what? There is no way on this earth that 1 Billion people watch the Superbowl every year. You going to back that up?

you forget that the same 1billion are part of the 8 billion who watched live aid and probably live earth... :rolleyes:

English Premier League Have Another Stupid Idea

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