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Physical selection for various worldwide Military units

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  • #92
    NoQuarter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


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    could i interest you in any more?


  • #93
    eroo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    Really, show me where the SAS or any other UK SF units pose for these type of pics ?

    If you claim they do post them.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RywsGjluJFQ&NR=1

    Mate,your an idiot..the SAS are the worst of all for publicity ****.Just look at Eddie Stone and the bbc shows 'SAS Survival Secrets','Jungle Are You Tough Enough' etc etc.Although these were ex-SAS,it just goes to show the image the SAS have..and they have done nothing to counter it..

    Also,EVERY SF unit has these sort of pics,it is called PR!At least former Rangers don't go around making TV shows or writing books..type SAS Survival Secrets into youtube and see the BS ex-SAS come up with.

    Btw,you say the ARW 'ballsed up' a number of op's against PIRA...where is your evidence or are you secretly high up in the Department of Defense?:rolleyes:


  • #94
    NoQuarter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    Really, show me where the SAS or any other UK SF units pose for these type of pics ?

    If you claim they do post them.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RywsGjluJFQ&NR=1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPpZQ4il9s


    pathfinder this just proves you run your mouth without even thinking first!
    you really havent a clue, bless.


  • #95
    Flying
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    I have passed P company and am an ex PT instructor in the Parachute Regiment.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055227872


    I suppose the ARW do the trainasium as well.

    LMAO..

    BTW I dont go into detail with Walters about what I did as would the regulars here who know what they are talking about...You must love C&S


  • #96
    Flying
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    Oh and another note, any SF is good as they are the creme of whatever army they are in, weither it be the legion or the arw.

    Stop posting as your looking more and more like a muppet.


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  • #97
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    king-stew wrote: »
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    ......................All ex SAS...............Not serving members, done for a tv programme.


  • #98
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    king-stew wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPpZQ4il9s


    pathfinder this just proves you run your mouth without even thinking first!
    you really havent a clue, bless.




    Ex SAS members, pics of current members and ops are classified.


  • #99
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    Flying wrote: »
    LMAO..

    BTW I dont go into detail with Walters about what I did as would the regulars here who know what they are talking about...You must love C&S



    You claim to be ex 3 Para, I asked you what years, what company and name some NCOs......You cant.

    I was in junior Para depot, before becoming a JNCO.


  • #100
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    What about if the kit for you to fight smart has been destroyed ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iy1DvEytgo&feature=related

    Odd. I don't remember the Blues and Royals complaining that their trip across the Falklands was particularly difficult, uncomfortable, or unpleasant.

    NTM


  • #101
    Flying
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    You claim to be ex 3 Para, I asked you what years, what company and name some NCOs......You cant.

    I was in junior Para depot, before becoming a JNCO.

    Most likely when you were a child.

    Junior Leaders I think is what your refering too.

    Also you think anyone here is going to tell you what Unit they were in, who their CO was, the CSM, the Pln SGT, what years they were operational.

    Your a walter, I served for 6 years there, and nearly 8 years here, now what are ya 14 or 15...

    God Someone ban this bumbling trolling fool, also have a read of the charter before you go spouting.


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  • #102
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    Flying wrote: »
    Most likely when you were a child.

    Junior Leaders I think is what your refering too.

    Also you think anyone here is going to tell you what Unit they were in, who their CO was, the CSM, the Pln SGT, what years they were operational.

    Your a walter, I served for 6 years there, and nearly 8 years here, now what are ya 14 or 15...

    God Someone ban this bumbling trolling fool, also have a read of the charter before you go spouting.



    How could naming what company you were in and naming some NCOs compromise your ID ?

    Junior Para depot is what the PRJL were refered to.

    Name the company HQ blocks at Aldershot ?

    Or some of the famous hills which had to be run during P coy ?

    .................If you served in 3 Para.

    Whats 3 Paras unofficial motto ?


  • #103
    Flying
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    How could naming what company you were in and naming some NCOs compromise your ID ?

    Junior Para depot is what the PRJL were refered to.

    Name the company HQ blocks at Aldershot ?

    Or some of the famous hills which had to be run during P coy ?

    .................If you served in 3 Para.

    Whats 3 Paras unofficial motto ?


    Please enlighten us all as your the expert, come on lets see what you got to tell us, maybe your 15, your a big lad tell us about your time in the regiment and how tough it was and your comprehensive combat knowledge oh please !.

    The slurry must be spread early this year, I get that aroma...

    Maybe you would like to know my service number, the name of my ex-wife the married accomodation block I lived in and how much I got paid and the name of my padre there in the 80's yeah ?


  • #104
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    Flying wrote: »
    Please enlighten us all as your the expert, come on lets see what you got to tell us, maybe your 15, your a big lad tell us about your time in the regiment and how tough it was and your comprehensive combat knowledge oh please !.

    The slurry must be spread early this year, I get that aroma...

    Maybe you would like to know my service number, the name of my ex-wife the married accomodation block I lived in and how much I got paid and the name of my padre there in the 80's yeah ?



    You should have known some of the blocks were named after famous ex Paras.

    To name two, Ridgeway and Blyth the first men to row the Atlantic, also serving Paras.

    Hungry hill, sapper hill, mulberry hill, severn sisters were some of the hills.

    The unofficial motto is.....Get your revenge in first.

    You should also know Paras have contempt for most other units, its part of the ethos, none of this brothers in arms bollox.

    No ex-Para would be spouting all selection is the same.


  • #105
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Gentlemen although I have stood down as mod the Admins have not yet changed my status so I am advising Pathfinder and Flying to take a step back and calm down.

    This has gotten way too personal, you just letting yourselves down at this stage.

    I'm not beyond handing out a couple of going away bans.


  • #106
    eroo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Pathfinder shut up mate,your net helping yourself by spouting on and on..


  • #107
    Hagar
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    I could do a 3 for the price of 2 special if you like...


  • #108
    Irish_Army01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Irish_Army01


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    , pics of current members and ops are classified.


    Very Same as the ARW..................


  • #109
    OS119
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    you, my friend, are a c0ck.

    didn't you used to post on polly.ie and be a total throbber there too?

    just for the record, i believe you to be a spotty, scrawney, aneamic 14 year old in a locked bedroom covered in 'paper roses' trawling through wiki and walt sites (and the occasional soft-porn emporium) in some bizarre - and doomed to failure - attempt to justify your mothers descision to throw away the wrong bit of afterbirth.

    and, as anyone with any servoice whatsoever would know, attempting to get the names of current and former members of the military plastered on the internet is massively contrary to PERSEC, and makes you liable to a good shoeing - as well as vunerable to prosecution under the Terrorism Act.

    twat.


  • #110
    Hagar
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    OS119 banned for a week for personal abuse.


  • #111
    Flying
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    You should have known some of the blocks were named after famous ex Paras.

    To name two, Ridgeway and Blyth the first men to row the Atlantic, also serving Paras.

    Hungry hill, sapper hill, mulberry hill, severn sisters were some of the hills.

    The unofficial motto is.....Get your revenge in first.

    You should also know Paras have contempt for most other units, its part of the ethos, none of this brothers in arms bollox.

    No ex-Para would be spouting all selection is the same.


    No EX-PARA would be spouting any of the above, as with Hagars guidelines I am refraining from further commenting on this and I would advise professional help for yourself as to be honest your not very convincing.

    ENDEX


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  • #112
    elvis jaffacake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭elvis jaffacake


    LOL this thread makes me giggle, apparantly the wing don't do Arctic warfare, they are just site seeing in Sweden, they don't do jungle warfare, so those trips to Belize and the northern territories in Oz were a waste of time, they don't do MFF, so all those HALO/HAHO training times in Sweden and here are money down the ****ter, oh and the best one, those 40 people they rescued without out firing a round in Liberia were obviously saved by the Paras:rolleyes:, should we all do the Walter Houston dance?

    BTW, if SAS selection is the be all/end all of things, why are there a certain goup of men in said unit called the "pathfinder patsies"?...those are guys who failed Pathfinder selection and then passed SAS selection.....hmmmmmm;)

    I'd put a winger up against any man in any unit anywhere, they don't bull****, they don't write books make crappy TV shows or any of that balls, they do their job and go home, this country should count itself lucky to have them, alot of others would give alot to have a unit like them...they have never failed us once in anything asked of them, that sure as **** is good enough for me.

    rant over,:o


  • #113
    elvis jaffacake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭elvis jaffacake


    BTW what member of the British military would ever say the the RM's A&MC were "SF"?, there are only 3 SF units in the British military and any recruit would know that and would never say otherwise.;)


  • #114
    Flying
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    elvis jaffacake wrote: »
    LOL this thread makes me giggle, apparantly the wing don't do Arctic warfare, they are just site seeing in Sweden, they don't do jungle warfare, so those trips to Belize and the northern territories in Oz were a waste of time, they don't do MFF, so all those HALO/HAHO training times in Sweden and here are money down the ****ter, oh and the best one, those 40 people they rescued without out firing a round in Liberia were obviously saved by the Paras:rolleyes:, should we all do the Walter Houston dance?

    BTW, if SAS selection is the be all/end all of things, why are there a certain goup of men in said unit called the "pathfinder patsies"?...those are guys who failed Pathfinder selection and then passed SAS selection.....hmmmmmm;)

    I'd put a winger up against any man in any unit anywhere, they don't bull****, they don't write books make crappy TV shows or any of that balls, they do their job and go home, this country should count itself lucky to have them, alot of others would give alot to have a unit like them...they have never failed us once in anything asked of them, that sure as **** is good enough for me.

    rant over,:o


    I tend to agree and well put


  • #115
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    elvis jaffacake wrote: »
    BTW what member of the British military would ever say the the RM's A&MC were "SF"?, there are only 3 SF units in the British military and any recruit would know that and would never say otherwise.;)


    UK special Forces :

    SAS

    SBS

    SRR

    SFSG.......Have taken part in ops with the SAS, includes the Parachute regiment Pathfinders.

    Arctic and Mountain warfare cadre, are classed as Special Forces unit who specialise in the title.

    (Now called Mountain leader training cadre)


  • #116
    elvis jaffacake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭elvis jaffacake


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    UK special Forces :

    SAS

    SBS

    SRR

    SFSG.......Have taken part in ops with the SAS, includes the Parachute regiment Pathfinders.

    Arctic and Mountain warfare cadre, are classed as Special Forces unit who specialise in the title.

    (Now called Mountain leader training cadre)
    :rolleyes:, do you want a second...or is it 3rd go to get it right son?.....the SFSG were originally only going to be a light infantry unit, that changed and now the role they perform is closer to the Australian 4 RAR (commandos), but the SFSG is a SOF's not SF in the British terminology, similar to the way the Yanks have SF (only Green berets) and SMU's (special mission units (CAG,DEVGRU and a few others)everyone else is SOF or in the SEAL NSW, acronyms are fun aren't they?

    the Pathfinders are not part of the SFSG, why would they be, their role is to provide LRR and battlespace shaping functions for 16th AAB, not be buggering around doing DA ect

    and no the M&AWC/ML were never classed as SF, thats why they get SF pay at half rate, are they nails?, ****ing right they are even the shakies think that, but they are mearly considered an elite, take that up with the MOD if you like.


  • #117
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    elvis jaffacake wrote: »
    LOL this thread makes me giggle, apparantly the wing don't do Arctic warfare, they are just site seeing in Sweden, they don't do jungle warfare, so those trips to Belize and the northern territories in Oz were a waste of time, they don't do MFF, so all those HALO/HAHO training times in Sweden and here are money down the ****ter, oh and the best one, those 40 people they rescued without out firing a round in Liberia were obviously saved by the Paras:rolleyes:, should we all do the Walter Houston dance?

    BTW, if SAS selection is the be all/end all of things, why are there a certain goup of men in said unit called the "pathfinder patsies"?...those are guys who failed Pathfinder selection and then passed SAS selection.....hmmmmmm;)

    I'd put a winger up against any man in any unit anywhere, they don't bull****, they don't write books make crappy TV shows or any of that balls, they do their job and go home, this country should count itself lucky to have them, alot of others would give alot to have a unit like them...they have never failed us once in anything asked of them, that sure as **** is good enough for me.

    rant over,:o


    I very much doubt most rangers are trained in HALO.

    Liberia.......So the ARW freed some natives, no shots were fired.....What do you want medals ?

    If you knew anything you would know SAS selection is more demanding then Pathfinder selection, 50% of SAS members have previously served in the Pathfinders and Parachute regiment.


    As for rangers and arctic warfare training, the Nordic battle group is a joke with women infantry, its is hardly the same training as the mountain and arctic warfare cadre or even that Royal Marine commandos cold whether training.


    Who would want to read books about peace keeping ops ?

    As a unit they have never been involved in a conflict, putting rangers who have never been in conflict alongside senior SAS NCOs who have been in global conflicts throughout their careers, shows you don't have a clue about soldiering.


    It is IMPOSSIBLE for a unit less then 100 strong to be trained to decent standard in all thats claimed, it takes two years to became a specialist.


  • #118
    elvis jaffacake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭elvis jaffacake


    So you really have not clue what your on about so now it's random piss your spraying?....you know this walting bussiness is much better if you have done some homework, it makes you look less of the fool, but screw it, I love punishment, so I'm going to answer all your little foibles:D


  • #119
    Pathfinder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pathfinder


    elvis jaffacake wrote: »
    :rolleyes:, do you want a second...or is it 3rd go to get it right son?.....the SFSG were originally only going to be a light infantry unit, that changed and now the role they perform is closer to the Australian 4 RAR (commandos), but the SFSG is a SOF's not SF in the British terminology, similar to the way the Yanks have SF (only Green berets) and SMU's (special mission units (CAG,DEVGRU and a few others)everyone else is SOF or in the SEAL NSW, acronyms are fun aren't they?

    the Pathfinders are not part of the SFSG, why would they be, their role is to provide LRR and battlespace shaping functions for 16th AAB, not be buggering around doing DA ect

    and no the M&AWC/ML were never classed as SF, thats why they get SF pay at half rate, are they nails?, ****ing right they are even the shakies think that, but they are mearly considered an elite, take that up with the MOD if you like.



    The SFSG take part in ops with the SAS they are a SF ops unit.


    The SFSG provides specialist infantry support to Special Forces, such as the SAS, anywhere in the world. With further training on additional weapons, communications equipment and specialist assault skills. Soldiers within the Parachute Regiment rotate through the SFSG during their careers to ensure that advanced military skills, found nowhere else in the infantry, are maintained throughout the 3 Battalions.

    The Pathfinders have supported the SAS as part of SFSG in many operations including Sierra Leone 2000 During Operation Palliser.

    As well as 21 and 23 SAS in medium and deep battlespace ISTAR and offensive operations.

    Do you not realise they are part of 16 Airbourne who support Special forces ops ?

    MAWC are classed as a specialised SF unit.



    "The Pathfinder Platoon

    16 Air Assault Brigade's Pathfinder Platoon are specially trained paratroopers tasked with advance force operations : moving in ahead of the main force, reconnoitering and marking the parachute drop zone or helicopter landing zone.

    The Pathfinder Platoon is tri-service although it is almost entirely manned by soldiers from 2 and 3 Battalions of The Parachute Regiment, who provide troops to 16 Air Assault Brigade.

    Pathfinders may be inserted up to a week ahead of the main force, usually in 4-man teams. The men of the pathfinder platoon are skilled in covert insertion, concealment and intelligence gathering. Pathfinder patrols may be parachuted or helicoptered into position. They may also insert by vehicles, usually heavily armed WMIK Land Rovers.

    Although not technically a special forces unit the levels of discipline and skills required of Pathfinders are close to if not entirely comparable to SF. Indeed, a stint in the pathfinders is often a good grounding for those wishing to serve in the Special Air Service.

    Pathfinders are highly skilled in insertion by parachute, including HALO and HAHO techniques. "


  • #120
    elvis jaffacake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭elvis jaffacake


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    I very much doubt most rangers are trained in HALO.
    You think most of the SAS is trained in MFF, thats the term btw who civies say HALO, most Blades, (thats the term for badged SAS guys BTW, but you knew that already) do their basic para quals and never jump again, only the Air mobility guys do MFF regularly (some other guy too), and thats only 25% roughly of a sabre squadrons shooters

    Liberia.......So the ARW freed some natives, no shots were fired.....What do you want medals ?
    **** medals, any walt can have a medal, they had the gratitude of 40 people wo were being raped and murdered, if were rally a prick I'd point out that the SAS and 1 Para lost one guy and had 2 dozen wounded hitting a compound they had staked out for over a week in Sierra Leon, the wing carried out a similar mission pretty much on the fly, no injuries

    If you knew anything you would know SAS selection is more demanding then Pathfinder selection, 50% of SAS members have previously served in the Pathfinders and Parachute regiment.
    Tell that to the Patsies, they seems to have had it differently, and over 60% of all UKSF are Royals, does that mean they are better then Paras?

    As for rangers and arctic warfare training, the Nordic battle group is a joke with women infantry, its is hardly the same training as the mountain and arctic warfare cadre or even that Royal Marine commandos cold whether training.
    Who said anything about the BG?, the wing trains with Swedish SF, the SSG, guess who they regularly train with?

    Who would want to read books about peace keeping ops ?
    Son, I'd rather read 1 truthful book on one of our guys not even a Ranger doing his job PKing, then 1000 of "Mcnabbs" and "Ryans" over blown fiction BS

    As a unit they have never been involved in a conflict, putting rangers who have never been in conflict alongside senior SAS NCOs who have been in global conflicts throughout their careers, shows you don't have a clue about soldiering.
    WTF are you on about untill 9/11 most UKSF guys never saw combat either, there were guys with 20+ years badged who didn't see ****, why do you think so many were leaving, and they still don't see that much, their are 19 year old privates in the Anglians with far far more trigger time then most SF guys, are the Anglians SF now?

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for a unit less then 100 strong to be trained to decent standard in all thats claimed, it takes two years to became a specialist.
    The wing are not that much smaller then the SBS in numbers, would it be great if we had double, yeah it would, but like all guys at that level, only the few apply, even fewer make it.
    Time for me to work my Elvis magic, hold on princess, it's going to be a bumpy ride


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  • #121
    elvis jaffacake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭elvis jaffacake


    Pathfinder wrote: »
    The SFSG take part in ops with the SAS they are a SF ops unit.
    Nope, they are SOF, different, to be SF in the UK you must pass either UKSF selection or it's modified versions, which the SRR and 21/23 and the SBS(R) do

    The SFSG provides specialist infantry support to Special Forces, such as the SAS, anywhere in the world. With further training on additional weapons, communications equipment and specialist assault skills. Soldiers within the Parachute Regiment rotate through the SFSG during their careers to ensure that advanced military skills, found nowhere else in the infantry, are maintained throughout the 3 Battalions.
    Did I say anything anywhere that disagrees with that fact?

    The Pathfinders have supported the SAS and SFSG in many operations.
    So have the RAF regiment...point?

    Including 21 22 and 23 SAS in medium and deep battlespace ISTAR and offensive operations.

    Do you not realise they are part of 16 Airbourne who support Special forces ops ?
    What?....who is the "16 airbourne" when they are at home?, you mean 16th Air Assault Brigade, and no supporting SF is not one of their primier missiont set's, it's to be a light infantry intervention force

    MAWC are classed as a specialised SF unit.
    No they are not, I don't care what book/website/TV show told you that, but it's wrong, specialised yes, SF now, there are strict regulations laid down on this and they don't come under them, neither do the PF, the HAC, or the special ob's battery
    ............


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