Why does everybody hate McDonalds so much?

Poxyshamrock · 29-01-2008 01:53PM

I just think McDonalds has gone off!
McDonalds 08 is nothing compared to McDonalds 98!

Just look what they've done to the happy meals

Pal · 29-01-2008 01:54PM

Rossibaby wrote: »

the suppliers of the meat are unbelievably cruel to the animals,its barbaric

I agree. Its very unkind of them to actually kill the cows.

Beruthiel · 29-01-2008 01:57PM

Cardboard food. Don't insult your body by eating that crap.
I recall at one stage McD's getting into big trouble for buying meat from south america. Because they were willing to do so, the farmers knocked down great chunks of the rainforest in order to keep cows.
That was the start of public dislike for McD's and the fact that they don't give a flying fuk where or how they get their meat.

Linky

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 29-01-2008 01:57PM

I don't like them because their food generally is really rubbish.
They always put cheese on their burgers.

BK FTW!

29-01-2008 01:57PM

Balmed Out wrote: »

However the hamburgers used to come in boxes labelled Grade F meat and cooked in 19 seconds, if memory serves me correctly.

This is BS, as far as the irish ones are concerned anyway. I'd also be willing to bet that it's untrue of the ones in the U.S. as well.

Maximilian wrote: »

Anyone who says the food doesn't taste good is more than likely lying.

Very true

Maximilian wrote: »

Unless you're one of those commie, tree-hugging, vegan, anarchist plebs that is.

I'm actually a class IV vegan.....I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

Susannahmia wrote: »

I hate them because they put gherkins on everything. Yuck!

Here's a thought, ask them for it without pickles/gherkins. Contrary to popular belief, they won't spit on your food, but you will more than likely get a fresher burger. It's better to ask for something that can't be easily removed (like mustard) as it only takes 2 seconds to remove a couple of pickles but they have to make it from scratch if it's a sauce or something.

I don't mind them, I prefer BK because i worked in McD's in Grafton St. for a few years and just got sick of their menu. Every now and then i've been known to abuse the eurosaver menu though.

humanji · 29-01-2008 01:59PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Must admit the ads for the salsa chicken legend thing have been tempting me of late, might have to give it a bash!

Don't bother. They're foul (there's room for a pun there, but I'll let it pass). I was swayed (rather easily) by the ad and then got one. It's a fraction of the size of the one shown and tastes like pepper. Took me hours to get rid of the taste. :mad:

I'm don't particularly like McDonalds because I thing Burger King tastes better, and even then, I don't eat there that often.

briantwin · 29-01-2008 01:59PM

Blisterman wrote: »

Their food is crap and Unhealthy.

True, but so is just about every fast food place. The guy from Supersize Me, could have eaten every day in Borza and had the same effect. At least McDonalds have salads.

I'm afraid you're a bit off the mark there. I Agree that alot of the fast food places churn out the same chum and people happily pay for it. But there is a difference between the burgers you get in Irish chippers and McDonalds. Apart from the price. The grade of the meat is higher in nearly every other fast food place. You only have to look at the production cost of the food and you'll see its utter sh*te, one step up from eating offal.

Their Food is packed full of Chemicals.

McDonalds give out brochures listing everything in their food, if you ask. Patrick Guillbald's don't even do that.

It would be some very large brochure seeing as for just the lettuce in their burgers there are 12 chemical treatments to ensure the lettuce is the same colour and crunchyness as lettuce from all the other restaurants around the world. Patrick Guilbald's do actually hand out brochures with the contents of the food included, its called the menu.

Their restaurants have poor levels of Hygine

Possibly, but having been inside the kitchens of supposedly upmarket restaurants, I can tell you, for a fact, that McDonalds kitchen's are far cleaner, and have much more procedures in place for food safety.

I worked in several restaurants and kitchen enviroments over a period of 6 years and i know for a fact that there is not one kitchen i ever worked in thats hygiene standard was on par or below any fast food restaurant. The fact of the matter is , if i'm sending out any meat dish i do a core temperature test on it to ensure its a minimum of 85degrees. All the sauces we made were fresh and our fridges and stock rooms immaculate. Do you honestly believe that a kitchen enviroment filled with a staff turn over so high with the volume of people working in the kitchens can really stick to an HACCP guidelines rigidly.

McDonalds are globalised scum.

The main reason McDonalds has become so popular is because it provides a service and product, that people want. They were once a small company with one restaurant and a few staff members.

So, is there anything really inherently wrong with McDonalds, or is it all really just snobbery, mixed in with a bit of anti-capitalism?

Well apart from the 800 square miles of forest removed every year for McDonalds "recycled" pacakging and god knows how many other enviromental devastating things they choose to continue doing. Using dangerous toxins to clear areas of the rain forest to graze cattle. Which will then be slaughtered and sent globally as burgers or pet food.(true)

God all this talk is making me hungry

AngryBadger · 29-01-2008 02:03PM

beanyb wrote: »

Every now and again I'll go into McD's forgetting how crap it makes you feel. It makes me feel sick and bloated after I eat it, and then I'm starving again half an hour later.

I think that's a fairly legitimate reason to hate McD's!

No I think that's just a legitmate reason for you to get "Don't eat McDonalds it doesn't agree with you" burned into your retinas, or you could be REALLY radical and just not eat there if it makes you sick.:rolleyes:

Rossibaby · 29-01-2008 02:04PM

Pal wrote: »

I agree. Its very unkind of them to actually kill the cows.

are you an idiot,do you not know where they get their chicken from and how the chickens are treated.

and did you never see how a 'mcnugget' is made...its not even proper chicken they are little circular pieces of crap

Collie D · 29-01-2008 02:05PM

briantwin wrote: »

I worked in several restaurants and kitchen enviroments over a period of 6 years and i know for a fact that there is not one kitchen i ever worked in thats hygiene standard was on par or below any fast food restaurant. The fact of the matter is , if i'm sending out any meat dish i do a core temperature test on it to ensure its a minimum of 85degrees. All the sauces we made were fresh and our fridges and stock rooms immaculate. Do you honestly believe that a kitchen enviroment filled with a staff turn over so high with the volume of people working in the kitchens can really stick to an HACCP guidelines rigidly.

So you're implying that McDonald's runs unhygienic premises? Just because it's at the lower end of the market doesn't mean they don't have to apply the same hygiene standards

gavrilo princip · 29-01-2008 02:07PM

Lil' Smiler wrote: »

Umm... I got food poisoning for 4 days from them... I have never eaten chicken (or whatever they serve that is meant to be chicken) from there again. The very odd time I will eat chips and a kids hamburger and that's it!

Apparently there's 74 outlets in the country with 31 being in Dublin...jaysus!! No wonder rates of child obesity are on the rise!!

No.
Child obesity is up because kids sit at home and play games about people playing football, rather than actually playing football themselves.

I ate crap as a kid, but I got lots of exercise. I was far from obese.

AngryBadger · 29-01-2008 02:07PM

Rossibaby wrote: »

are you an idiot,do you not know where they get their chicken from and how the chickens are treated.

and did you never see how a 'mcnugget' is made...its not even proper chicken they are little circular pieces of crap

Don't all takeaways everywhere get their "nugget" meat from exactly the same place (on the chicken!)?

But of course it wouldn't be as cool for you to give out about every single takeaway in the world/country that serves chicken nuggets, it's only cool if you slag McDonalds :rolleyes:

Dinter · 29-01-2008 02:08PM

I never understand all this anti globalisation stuff. All these crusties giving out about anti competition laws or global brands before going home to their free council houses and gorging on their soya bean drinks bought with their hard earned dole money because their "principles" would never allow them to have a real job and contribute taxes to "the man".

Bunch of lazy good for nothin' bums. I wish they'd p1ss off to Kenya and help harvest the "Fair Trade" coffee beans but that'd be too like hard work and they'd miss their free medical care and any number of disabilities they're claiming under aliases.

Best way they could improve the lot of the "poor old cattle" would be to line up in the abbatoir in their place.

Until I get reincarnated as a small rancher in Brazil,McDonalds ftw.

gavrilo princip · 29-01-2008 02:08PM

Rossibaby wrote: »

are you an idiot,do you not know where they get their chicken from and how the chickens are treated.

and did you never see how a 'mcnugget' is made...its not even proper chicken they are little circular pieces of crap

Where do they get the chicken?

They say it's Irish chicken.
If it's not, then they can be done for false advertising.

kodute · 29-01-2008 02:12PM

McDonalds killed my father and raped my mother!!

But seriously, their food tastes like crap and you feel like crap after eating it.

29-01-2008 02:15PM

briantwin wrote: »

I worked in several restaurants and kitchen enviroments over a period of 6 years and i know for a fact that there is not one kitchen i ever worked in thats hygiene standard was on par or below any fast food restaurant. The fact of the matter is , if i'm sending out any meat dish i do a core temperature test on it to ensure its a minimum of 85degrees. All the sauces we made were fresh and our fridges and stock rooms immaculate. Do you honestly believe that a kitchen enviroment filled with a staff turn over so high with the volume of people working in the kitchens can really stick to an HACCP guidelines rigidly.

I'm with Collie on this one. The standards of hygiene and food preparation were of the highest order. Especially regarding the chicken.

~Rebel~ · 29-01-2008 02:15PM

humanji wrote:

Don't bother. They're foul (there's room for a pun there, but I'll let it pass). I was swayed (rather easily) by the ad and then got one. It's a fraction of the size of the one shown and tastes like pepper. Took me hours to get rid of the taste. :mad:

I'm don't particularly like McDonalds because I thing Burger King tastes better, and even then, I don't eat there that often.

oh well, looks like my solidarity continues! I figured it was probably too good to be true alright.

I agree with the BK statement too, haven't eaten there in a long time either, but you cant go wrong with the odd bacon double cheeseburger.

Collie D · 29-01-2008 02:17PM

Dinter wrote: »

I never understand all this anti globalisation stuff. All these crusties giving out about anti competition laws or global brands before going home to their free council houses and gorging on their soya bean drinks bought with their hard earned dole money because their "principles" would never allow them to have a real job and contribute taxes to "the man".

Bunch of lazy good for nothin' bums. I wish they'd p1ss off to Kenya and help harvest the "Fair Trade" coffee beans but that'd be too like hard work and they'd miss their free medical care and any number of disabilities they're claiming under aliases.

Best way they could improve the lot of the "poor old cattle" would be to line up in the abbatoir in their place.

Until I get reincarnated as a small rancher in Brazil,McDonalds ftw.

I think a lot of the smelly crowd with dreads tend to be Trinity/UCD students who wouldn't know what a council house was if it fell on them. Bunch of rolly smoking, non-McDonald's eating, living off Daddy rich kids. Oh, and they smell. God, I hate crusties.

Rant over

Rossibaby wrote:

and did you never see how a 'mcnugget' is made...its not even proper chicken they are little circular pieces of crap

No, I've never seen a McNugget being made. If it's not chicken, please enlighten us from your time in the secret Mcnugget circular crap factory

jdivision · 29-01-2008 02:19PM

I do cos
a) after about half an hour my stomach feels like crap
b) in order to produce cheap beef they encourage farmers in Brazil to clear rainforest

Other than that no problem with them, but prefer taste of Burger King.

I suspect the reason they're bringing in the training courses is to qualify for job creation grants - they do this in the United States, as do BK.

faceman · 29-01-2008 02:20PM

Im not a fan of mcdonalds or any fast food chain and i have odd moments of hungover weakness when i would buy (and regret after) a big mac meal or something. There are a couple of seperate issues with macdonalds and similar fast food joints.

McDonalds have had very unfavourable and in many cases unethical business practises over the years since they were turned into the corporate machine that they were many decades ago. Granted that some of the their practises are not directly visible in ireland or the UK, that doesnt deter from the fact that those practises take/took place under the golden arch corporate brand. They have to be fair, tried to clean up their act quite successfully in recent years and have become somewhat more transparent. However this was a result of consumer pressure. Sales were dropping and they were forced to change.

The food. we all know that the food is full of natural and artifical flavourings (natural flavourings btw are artifical flavourings depending on the chemical!!) and thats why it tastes as good as it does. This is my problem with it. Im not denying that the big mac is tasty at times but taking a step back from it, i want to enjoy food for its own natural flavours, not for its chemically enhanced flavours.

Some of the ingredients used in fast food is addictive. in fact scientists have done studies into fat and grease which show that its addictive too.

On the environmental side, i have issue with many deforestation schemes that claim to recycle or plant 2 trees for every 1 tree knocked down. Deforestation has many knock on affects to the local eco system. It causes watering holes/lakes to dry up, unnaturally forces migration or extinction of flora and fauna. Plant 2 trees that take 10-30 years to reach full size doesnt prevent it from happening.

taking an example i know quite well. Lake Naivasha in kenya was always known to tourists as the place to see "blankets" of pink flamingos as thousands upon thousands live on the lake. However within 10 years those numbers have dramatically as local deforestation as caused the banks of the lake to receed and the lake food stocks to reduce and thus had an impact on the flamingos.

Anyway despite all the coverage in the media, all the documentaries, all the scientific studies, people dont really seem to care and continue to eat crap and throw a blind eye to all the bad stuff.

jdivision · 29-01-2008 02:21PM

Collie D wrote: »

No, I've never seen a McNugget being made. If it's not chicken, please enlighten us from your time in the secret Mcnugget circular crap factory

Jamie Oliver showed in one of his programmes what they use to make Chicken Nuggets, put me off them for life. It seems that all of the mechanically reclaimed ones are made like this, not just Maccie Ds

Earthhorse · 29-01-2008 02:22PM

briantwin made most of the points I'm gonna make but anyway...

Blisterman wrote: »

True, but so is just about every fast food place. The guy from Supersize Me, could have eaten every day in Borza and had the same effect. At least McDonalds have salads.

Their salads aren't actually all that healthy.

Blisterman wrote: »

McDonalds give out brochures listing everything in their food, if you ask. Patrick Guillbald's don't even do that.

Sure, they do now. But they went to great lengths in the past to prevent information about their product being released to the general public. In some ways they are the victim of success here; would Burger King or Pizza Hut of acted any more ethically in a similar situation? Doubtful, but McDonald's are the ones that did and mud sticks.

Also, I would not expect Patrick Guilbald to provide me with such a list. With the reputation he has I expect his ingredients to be well sourced and fresh.

Maximilian wrote: »

Anyone who says the food doesn't taste good is more than likely lying. The whole reason it is so successful is because the food tastes good.

McDonalds have had to change various of their recipes over the years in part due to tighter regulations. While I used to like their food I no longer do, though that could be do with my taste developing (I still eat in Burger King occasionally and the food is fine from a taste perspective). Last few times I was in McDonalds the service was also pretty atrocious.

I do think you have a point about McDonalds being singled out for attention but it's because they're the most prominent target.

Rossibaby · 29-01-2008 02:23PM

AngryBadger wrote: »

Don't all takeaways everywhere get their "nugget" meat from exactly the same place (on the chicken!)?

But of course it wouldn't be as cool for you to give out about every single takeaway in the world/country that serves chicken nuggets, it's only cool if you slag McDonalds :rolleyes:

lol if you think slagging mcd's is cool you obivously aren't a popular person.i am not worried what others think,i would slag any party if they are doing wrong.i would cast berger king in the same boat as mcd's,the reason ,cd's gets such bad press is because its the leader in the market,why would you attack any other restaurant than the leader.makes sense no?

there are many fast food places that are shockingly bad.in the end you must blame parents because it is them that give in to the children and often bring them to get fast food 3/4 times a week!another thing that was mentioned earlier was the fact of the barage of advertisements.whats worse is that they are aimed at kids.little toys,play areas etc all aimed for kids to nag their parents into submission

to the poster who asked about irish supplied chickens.yes indeed that may well be the case as those disgraceful chicken farms are present in ireland too.i recommend you watch one or two documentories on teh subject,it will open your eyes

Collie D · 29-01-2008 02:24PM

But it is still chicken. I'm not saying that it's free range, succulent breast. I would imagine a hell of a lot of processed foods are done in the same manner

Rossibaby · 29-01-2008 02:25PM

well said jdivision,yes indeed other places use the same crap such as the main fast food places and major supermarkets.tesco is also a big sinner when comes to this subject.am i cool now angry badger i abused tesco lol

briantwin · 29-01-2008 02:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm with Collie on this one. The standards of hygiene and food preparation were of the highest order. Especially regarding the chicken.

I think you were missing the point i was trying to make. If you have a staff of 25 people working a busy night in a kitchen you cant ensure everyone is keeping to the same standard. the other point i was making is that its well documented that the staff in fast food restaurants changes rather frequently. too frequently in fact for anyone to get properly trained in or become proficient in hygiene related organization for a kitchen of 25 people.

its not because its on the other end of the scale , Maximus and Macari's are not 5 star dining spots but they are generally clean. This is because there is usually 4 or 5 people working in there full time. Not an army of part timers who not only work part time but will only be part committed to stuff like hygiene etc. IMO

lezizi · 29-01-2008 02:28PM

This thread is making me hungry.
I love micky d's double quater pounder with cheese, mmm, daycent.

Balmed Out · 29-01-2008 02:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is BS, as far as the irish ones are concerned anyway. I'd also be willing to bet that it's untrue of the ones in the U.S. as well.

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No its not the hambugers were grade f and the quater pounders etc were improved grades. This was in Delaware in 1999. I only worked in one in the U.S so I cant say for Ireland.

Collie D · 29-01-2008 02:32PM

briantwin wrote: »

I think you were missing the point i was trying to make. If you have a staff of 25 people working a busy night in a kitchen you cant ensure everyone is keeping to the same standard.

That is why they have managers/supervisors. It's a valid point that a part-time worker might not give a rat's but there is always someone there to make sure that they keep standards in line

Rossibaby · 29-01-2008 02:35PM

to be honest i'd like to see the government bring in legislation regarding the standard of the food is all restaurants and that detailed reading of how the food is gotten from animal to your mouth is provided for parents.and shifty if you think the burgers are good quality in ireland from mcdonalds you were raised badly lol compare them to the big fresh ones you get from the local butcher.next people will be on here saying big al's are good for you

Why does everybody hate McDonalds so much?

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