Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

kida · 24-01-2008 02:20PM

correct me If I am worng but the only news I can find of Sissoko is quotes from him saying its close. The amount seems to be plucked from nowhere.

Mr Alan · 24-01-2008 02:33PM

Loving the positive impact you having today Kida!

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Jazzy, while i am not disputing the fact that i would like things to be finalised to end any speculation, i amnt really sharing peoples massive concerns, we have him on loan until the end of the season. He said he wants to stay. Rafa has said he wants to keep him.

Are Villa fans going mad in case they dont sign Carson before the close of the window? No - why would they!? he's there till the end of the season. I understand its a little different, but the same principle applies, why sign and pay for him now when we dont have to until the summer?

herbieflowers · 24-01-2008 02:36PM

I suppose with the apparent interest from other clubs maybe fans fear they'll lose him. The same can't really be said of Carson to the best of my knowledge

Mr Alan · 24-01-2008 02:45PM

Have any clubs came out and said they wanna sign Masch apart from us? or is it just paper talk?

herbieflowers · 24-01-2008 02:48PM

I guess it's just paper talk, but he's a quality player, if he was available I'm sure many clubs from England and abroad would be interested.

prendy · 24-01-2008 03:04PM

i thought milan said they were interested a few weeks back?
maybe it was just gossip though.

id be very surprised if clubs around europe wernt looking at the possibility signing him given the current financial situation of LFC tbh!!!

Mr Alan · 24-01-2008 03:07PM

Same could be said for Carson, Tevez, Castillo and any other qualtiy players that are on loan. Which is why clubs, before agreeing to taking a player on loan have contracts done up to guaruntee they will be able to get the player if they want them on a permanent basis.

and there we are back to square 1. If we want (the owners, that is, obviously the fans want) Mascherano, we'll get him.

No big deal.

Lets leave the paper talk to the papers.

herbieflowers · 24-01-2008 03:13PM

Do Liverpool have first refusal?

Mr Alan · 24-01-2008 03:26PM

yes we have first refusal.

talking about that is how the whole Masch topic came up anyway.

Chardee MacDennis · 24-01-2008 05:42PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7182517.stm

Sissoko expects to seal deal on Friday.

Tusky · 24-01-2008 07:58PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

yes we have first refusal.

talking about that is how the whole Masch topic came up anyway.

We do have first refusal alright but the loan deal is up at the end of month. Surely that means that thats the end of the first refusal also ? The first refusal doesn't go on for ever, it goes on for the period of the loan which was from last January to this January.

If we don't sign him in January, other clubs are free to make offers and he is free to sign a pre-contract with them. Thats my understanding anyway.

event · 24-01-2008 08:13PM

Tusky wrote: »

We do have first refusal alright but the loan deal is up at the end of month. Surely that means that thats the end of the first refusal also ? The first refusal doesn't go on for ever, it goes on for the period of the loan which was from last January to this January.

If we don't sign him in January, other clubs are free to make offers and he is free to sign a pre-contract with them. Thats my understanding anyway.

fairly sure it is until end of the season, otherwise there would be a lot more panic about it

kryogen · 24-01-2008 08:32PM

the loan deal isnt up till the summer is it? sure how is he going to play for liverpool if his loan deal is up at the end of january? id imagine ye have first refusal until the end of the loan

jesus_thats_gre · 24-01-2008 08:36PM

The loan deal extends to the summer afaik. There was talk of Liverpool having to give permission for him to play in the Olympics or something recently sure..

zing · 24-01-2008 08:51PM

It was an 18 month loan deal with option to buy.

In other news Palermo are after Lucas. A loan might be good for him but can't see Rafa letting two of midfielders go.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3075913,00.html

Melion · 24-01-2008 10:09PM

Lucas should go nowhere. He will get games this year and whats the point in having him play over there, he needs to settle in here and learn the language this season and then we will see how unbelivable he is next season.

shayser · 24-01-2008 11:10PM

Looks like the dirty deed has been done then:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7203724.stm

Melion · 24-01-2008 11:12PM

Cheerio Rafa, Masch, Xabi, Pepe, Alvaro and prob a few others

shotamoose · 24-01-2008 11:22PM

Melion wrote: »

Cheerio Rafa, Masch, Xabi, Pepe, Alvaro and prob a few others

I doubt it. The furious reaction (behind the scenes, but heavily leaked to the press) of Gillette and others in LFC to Hicks' Klinsmann revelation suggest it was not something planned to force Rafa out, but a boneheadedly misguided attempt to show that their disputes with Rafa were in the past. If Rafa and the team can actually pull out of the current slump and finish in 4th with a decent cup run or two, I think he'll be safe for another season. That's assuming the Americans even stay till the end of the season, and this refinancing only makes that a bit more likely - they've had to put more of their own money in than they wanted, and DIC haven't given any indication they're going to go away.

Jazzy · 24-01-2008 11:28PM

f*ck this.
im gonna be an optimist from now on.

new stadium \o/
new players (WINGERS!) \o/
stability \o/

(i hope)

zing · 24-01-2008 11:32PM

Melion wrote: »

Lucas should go nowhere. He will get games this year and whats the point in having him play over there, he needs to settle in here and learn the language this season and then we will see how unbelivable he is next season.

I agree (hope anyway) he should get more games for the rest season. If Momo was staying I'd have thought it a good move for him to go on loan to another prem team to help him adapt and get the games under his belt. But with Momo going we need him so we can try rework the best midfield song

Chardee MacDennis · 24-01-2008 11:39PM

football365 say we are getting another loan for a further 45m for player acquisitions?!?

The £160million figure includes £105million new cash for the club - £65million to kick-start work on the new stadium, and a further sum of £45million of working capital including money for player acquisitions. The remainder is the existing debt the Americans inherited when they took over the club a year ago.

Peyton Manning · 24-01-2008 11:40PM

Jazzy wrote: »

f*ck this.
im gonna be an optimist from now on.

new stadium \o/
new players (WINGERS!) \o/
stability \o/

(i hope)

Your first two predictions are most likely spot on. The last one however - stability - will not be a word associated with Liverpool for some time while Mr. Hicks remains affiliated with the club.

zing · 24-01-2008 11:48PM

Call_me_al wrote: »

football365 say we are getting another loan for a further 45m for player acquisitions?!?

Hopefully Parry will be handing 17m or 12m or whatever the amount is to Kia to secure Masch long term. But will it be deja vu for Rafa .. asking for a defensive midfielder and getting a mid size family saloon.

DeadSkin · 25-01-2008 12:09AM

Hobbs off to Scunthorpe United on loan for the rest of the season. Scunthorpe struggling at the wrong end of the Championship but should prove good experience for the young lad.

oobydooby · 25-01-2008 12:58AM

I wonder could Rafa fix a sneaky deal for Tevez with Kia while he's sealing the Masch deal? Rafa's always rated Tevez. I liked Tevez too until I saw him with AIG on his shirt:( He's still a class player though and we've all got embarrassing/shameful memories from our teenage tears/21/22

mike65 · 25-01-2008 01:00AM

Given the horrid rep of G&H I bet they will make sure Masch is secured just as part of bridge-building. Funnily Rafa could be safer now than he has been for a while.

Mike.

machiavellianme · 25-01-2008 01:00AM

DeadSkin wrote: »

Hobbs off to Scunthorpe United on loan for the rest of the season. Scunthorpe struggling at the wrong end of the Championship but should prove good experience for the young lad.

Thats the very job for him. Shots will be coming thick and fast with plenty of bruisers knocking into him. Should sharpen him up a bit, probably more experience than he'll get with the reserves.

Edit: Why is Archimedes Blasphemous signature tolerated? There is only one GOD here

jesus_thats_gre · 25-01-2008 01:10AM

I suppose he can like whoever he likes but it does seem somewhat premature referring to him as GOD alright..

Stky10 · 25-01-2008 01:18AM

BBC wrote:

Hicks will also feel he will be in a stronger position should he decide to sell in the future, dealing a blow to DIC's hopes of mounting a swift bid to take control of the club.

Meh... in a years time they'll have to sell when they realise they can never visit the ground for a match again without a security operation like as if Dubya was in town, they're as popular as a fart in a spacesuit, and nobody will give them another 300million to build a ground.

Light the torch paper.. this could get nasty...

Liverpool Rumours And General Discussion 2007/2008

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