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Kevin Keegan is back at Toon!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Although I had a jibe at him earlier in the thread, I do actually think it's a good move.

    Keegan is an absolute legend of the game, and while he may lack some tactical nous, he more than makes up for it with motivation and man management. Which is defintely something the Newcastle team need.

    I don't see the benefit in football fans constantly harping on about the club being a joke, and taking some kind of pleasure of the position they're in. Keegan will bring back the passion, flair and optimism which is needed to lift a team out of the doldrums.

    If he can get the players heads up and playing to their potential, Newcastle could well be a very exciting team to watch.

    Good luck Kev, and I'd love it, just love it, if you can prove all the naysayers wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Why does everyone go on about how amazing his motivation is? He blew the league, remember?! absolutely lost it, it was theirs for the taking and he/they imploded, where was his man management then?! Also he has walked out of pretty much every job he has ever had when the going got tough-how does that possibly inspire confidence in a manager?!

    Plus Newcastles best player, and about the only near world class player they have (when he is fit) doesnt like or really rate him as a manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,149 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Why does everyone go on about how amazing his motivation is? He blew the league, remember?! absolutely lost it, it was theirs for the taking and he/they imploded, where was his man management then?! Also he has walked out of pretty much every job he has ever had when the going got tough-how does that possibly inspire confidence in a manager?!

    Plus Newcastles best player, and about the only near world class player they have (when he is fit) doesnt like or really rate him as a manager.

    +1 to all of that.

    Now at City he did get us out of Division 1 but our squad was too good anyway. In the Prem he was never convincing and eventually walked away. Yes he was better than the previous sh*te we had (apart from Royle) but he was by no means a great manager.

    Take off the Geordie blinkers and see that this move is a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    My only interest in Keegan's return is the fact that it may lift the team for the next couple of games and they may get a few results that would not be expected (they're away to Arsenal twice in next two/three weeks :D:D)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    THis is a positive signing (as far as Newcastle is concerned). Good for football, love to see Keegan do it, but i think the Premier League is about 10 times harder with more quality top to mid table. Lets see how the player respond. Duff i'm looking at you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,149 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    THis is a positive signing (as far as Newcastle is concerned). Good for football, love to see Keegan do it, but i think the Premier League is about 10 times harder with more quality top to mid table. Lets see how the player respond. Duff i'm looking at you.

    Do what exactly?

    Win the league? Not a hope

    Win a trophy? Highly unlikely

    Walk away? Probably


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    following Newcastle over the 17 years has been like marrying the prom queen..watching her turn into a fat slag over the years and thinking wtf did I marry her for?..but now she's joined a gym and ur hoping that things will go back to the way they were supposed to be.:D

    More like marrying the fat pretentious slag who always though she should be a prom queen......watching her go to the gym for a few years, lose weight, get in great shape but then bottles it, piles on the pounds again and buys lots of expensive jewellery and clothes that she will never wear.............then suddenly one day she texts you from the gym and you think back to happier times and hope that she will get her act together. Remember though, she is one 'all you can eat buffet' away from disaster ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Raekwon wrote: »
    More like marrying the fat pretentious slag who always though she should be a prom queen......watching her go to the gym for a few years, lose weight, get in great shape but then bottles it, piles on the pounds again and buys lots of expensive jewellery and clothes that she will never wear.............then suddenly one day she texts you from the gym and you think back to happier times and hope that she will get her act together. Remember though, she is one 'all you can eat buffet' away from disaster ;)
    Beautiful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Raekwon wrote: »
    More like marrying the fat pretentious slag who always though she should be a prom queen......watching her go to the gym for a few years, lose weight, get in great shape but then bottles it, piles on the pounds again and buys lots of expensive jewellery and clothes that she will never wear.............then suddenly one day she texts you from the gym and you think back to happier times and hope that she will get her act together. Remember though, she is one 'all you can eat buffet' away from disaster ;)
    LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    DesF wrote: »
    Beautiful.

    She had her moments ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    The great man himself

    "They compare Steve McManaman to Steve Heighway and he's nothing like him, but I can see why - it's because he's a bit different."

    "Despite his white boots, he has real pace... "

    "You can't do better than go away from home and get a draw... "

    "He can't speak Turkey, but you can tell he's delighted. "

    "There'll be no siestas in Madrid tonight. "

    "...using his strength. And that is his strength, his strength. "

    "Gary always weighed up his options, especially when he had no choice. "

    "I'm not disappointed - just disappointed. "

    "The tide is very much in our court now. "

    "Chile have three options - they could win or they could lose. "

    "That would have been a goal if it wasn't saved. "

    "I came to Nantes two years ago and it's much the same today, except that it's totally different. "

    "A tremendous strike which hit the defender full on the arm - and it nearly came off. "

    "The good news for Nigeria is that they're two-nil down very early in the game."

    "The substitute is about to come on - he's a player who was left out of the starting line-up today. "

    "That decision, for me, was almost certainly definitely wrong. "

    "I know what is around the corner - I just don't know where the corner is.

    But the onus is on us to perform and we must control the bandwagon. "

    "Hungary is very similar to Bulgaria. I know they're different countries...

    "

    "In some ways, cramp is worse than having a broken leg. "

    "The 33 or 34-year-olds will be 36 or 37 by the time the next World Cup comes around, if they're not careful. "

    "England have the best fans in the world and Scotland's fans are second-to-none. "

    "It's understandable that people are keeping one eye on the pot and another up the chimney. "

    "I'd love to be a mole on the wall in the Liverpool dressing room at half-time. "

    "It could be far worse for me if it was easy for me. "

    "Discipline is not only very important, it's crucial. "

    "Young Gareth Barry - he's young. "

    "Argentina won't be at Euro 2000 because they're from South America. "

    "They're the second best team in the world, and there's no higher praise than that."

    "You don't get two chances at this level, or at any other level for that matter."

    "You're not just getting international football, you're getting world football."

    "Kanu, a guy with a heart as big as he is."

    "Luis Figo is totally different to David Beckham, and vice versa."

    "Football's always easier when you've got the ball."

    "They don't come every three days, like they come after this one."

    "I want more from David Beckham. I want him to improve on perfection."

    "The tide is very much in our court now."

    "There's a slight doubt about only one player, and that's Tony Adams, who definitely won't be playing tomorrow."

    "We have spent three matches chasing a football."

    "It's no longer an 11 man game."

    "The Germans only have one player under 22, and he's 23."

    "For some it's the ultimate job, for the others it's the last job."

    "I've had an interest in racing all my life, or longer really."

    "We managed to wrong a few rights."

    "We are three games without defeat is another way of looking at it. But if we are honest we have taken two points from nine."

    "He'll also be very dangerous from set-pieces. That means he'll be a threat from free-kicks and corners in the final third of the field."

    "Danny Tiatto is not going to make a mistake on purpose."

    "I'll never play at Wembley again, unless I play at Wembley again."

    "You need 88 points for the title and we've got 61 at present with 16 games to go, but if you set targets you limit yourself."

    "We deserved to win this game after hammering them 0-0 in the first half."

    "He's got a heart as big as his size, which isn't big, but his heart's bigger than that'

    "Well, if that's true then it would be a big surprise, but then nothing surprises me in football these days."

    "You get bunches of players like you do bananas, though that is a bad comparison."

    "Not many teams will come to Arsenal and get anything, home or away."

    "Nicolas Anelka left Arsenal for £23million and they built a training ground on him."

    "As far as I'm concerned, Danny Tiatto doesn't exist."

    "One team with destiny already decided..."

    "Maine Road was a great football stadium but as time moved on it stayed where it is...."




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,149 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Was just reading that myself on F365. Some gems.

    My favourite was during ITV's coverage of England's penalty shoot out in France '98 against Argentina. Batty steps up.

    Brian Moore "Will Batty score?"

    King Kev, "Yes!".

    We all know what happened next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭patmac


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Was just reading that myself on F365. Some gems.

    My favourite was during ITV's coverage of England's penalty shoot out in France '98 against Argentina. Batty steps up.

    Brian Moore "Will Batty score?"

    King Kev, "Yes!".

    We all know what happened next.

    I forget which game it was when England equalised possibly Romania and he said I can see only one winner here and the kiss of death applied and England lost.Now if only they had betting in running in them days.
    Never liked him overrated as both player and manager. This is what happens when self-made billionaire buys local club and sits in the stands and listens to all around him, mob rule very similar to Ebbsfleet Utd.
    When Keegan inevitably goes after a great start that fizzles out after about 10 games, Ashley (not the bloke from Corrie) will take over and using a clapometer will base his selection on crowd reaction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,149 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Headline now on BBC -

    'Keegan wants Newcastle patience'

    Good luck with that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Michael Owen is facing an uncertain future under Kevin Keegan.

    The £16million striker ranks his days playing for England under Keegan as "the darkest of my career" and made him "question my footballing ability for the first time".

    Owen will have to repair his broken relationship with Keegan after some explosive comments he made in his autobiography.

    Owen did not thrive under Keegan for England, scoring just three times, and he has since candidly revealed his frustrations with the man who is now his new boss.
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    Sorting out the problem will be one of Keegan's first tasks.

    Owen wrote in his book Off The Record: "He (Keegan) seemed the complete package. But if it was for some players, it wasn't for me. I assume the manager had told his staff what he thought of me and plainly it wasn't complimentary.

    "I felt I was being singled out...there was so much pressure on him he needed a scapegoat. As soon as he said one negative thing about me it led to another.

    "Looking back on the Keegan era, one main feature stands out for me. It made me question my footballing ability for the first time in my life.

    "Before that time, I used to go into games believing the opposition was scared of me and that nothing could get in my way.

    "That self-belief evaporated at times when I played under Keegan. Certainly it was a dark phase in my career."

    Cheerio Mikey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,537 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Raekwon wrote: »
    More like marrying the fat pretentious slag who always though she should be a prom queen......watching her go to the gym for a few years, lose weight, get in great shape but then bottles it, piles on the pounds again and buys lots of expensive jewellery and clothes that she will never wear.............then suddenly one day she texts you from the gym and you think back to happier times and hope that she will get her act together. Remember though, she is one 'all you can eat buffet' away from disaster ;)


    Bet you're either a Liverpool fan or Sunderland.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    He's an Aston Villa fan if i'm not mistaken


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Bet you're either a Liverpool fan or Sunderland.:D

    I'm actually a fan of the original *'prom queens', Aston Villa :D

    (*Crowned Miss World in the early 80's, pig ugly & clinically obese for large parts of the late 80's, mid 90's & mid 00's but worked on by renowned plastic surgeons lately and hopefully back to former glories in the not so distant future).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭LOTTOWINNER


    It's very flattering that you all have some much to say about our new manager, we must be a big club after all!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,537 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    He's an Aston Villa fan if i'm not mistaken

    oh god..nearly as bad :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    oh god..nearly as bad :)

    Ha! Not even close. Villa have won a shed load more trophies then Newcastle and we are on the up at the moment, the only comparison between the two clubs is that we both had our fair share of wanker managers & chairmen in the past.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    5 Minutes in and there is already going to be problems...

    Amidst the hysteria and euphoria that greeted Kevin Keegan's return to Newcastle, Michael Owen must have cut a more restrained figure.

    In an autobiography dismally banal even by footballers' standards, the sole paragraphs of interest concerned Owen's relationship with Keegan during their time together on England duty.

    According to the normally reticent Owen, the period together left him "scarred". The relationship between manager and striker deteriorated to such an extent that the Keegan was depicted as briefing against the then-20-year-old striker before the Euro 2000 match against Romania.

    "A team meeting was called to discuss the Romanians and Keegan set off on a 20-minute lecture about me. 'Michael, if I was any other manager you would not be playing tomorrow. You've got to improve or we'll have to change.' I really started to resent him - not as a man but as a manager. With a quarter of an hour gone I thought, 'Sod him, I'm playing my own game. I know I'm good.' Then I scored and the relief was immense," Owen wrote.

    In another passage that will be of particular interest to those who denounce Keegan as a tactician, Owen revealed that he was asked to play as a link-man rather than on the shoulder of the last defender in order to utilise his pace.

    "In training all week Keegan had kept me behind, playing balls into me and telling me what he wanted me to do," he complained. "I assume the manager had conveyed to his staff what he thought of me - and plainly it wasn't complimentary. If I did one tiny thing wrong there would be a rush of critical comment.

    "I used to go into games believing that the opposition was scared of me and that nothing could get in my way. That feeling, that belief, evaporated at times when I played under Keegan. It was a dark phase in my career," he concluded.

    so toons best player doesnt like the messiah.
    SMASHING start


    edit - just a thought. you could probably change Newcastle Uniteds club motto. hows this: "Newcastle United - Theres always something..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    'Good for football, love to see Keegan do it,'
    .......eh manage a succesfull Football Club?.
    No wait.... that would be too obvious. :D

    Not a bitter ManC fan? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,827 ✭✭✭Charlie


    As a good as Owen has been in the past, he has done sweet FA for us. Admittedly that's as a result of injuries, but I have said it to my mates for the last year or so that I think he's crocked for good.

    Also, I imagine that Owen still sees himself in a Liverpool Jersey, I know I do. He just doesn't seem fully right at Newcastle. So, if there are ill feelings between him and Keegan, and it resulted in him moving, I certainly wouldn't be too gutted.

    Plus, I don't buy into all this never go back lark. Look at Redknapp, Walter Smith, Lippi with Juve.

    As a Newcastle fan, i'm not deluded enough to think that upon King Kevs return were going to be back where we were when he left, but I think he can potentially turn us into a top 7 team in the next 18 months, and then after that, bring the club back to where t was under Robson's tenure, with a cup run or two in there. For me, that would be more than enough.

    Sure, it could all go tits up, but unless we got a Mourinho or Lippi, which we never would have, any potential candidate we could have hoped to attract (Hughes, Houllier, Deschamps etc.) could have made a balls of it.

    I was bulling when Sam was sacked, really thought he needed more time. But if i'm being honest, I didn't think the club would be where it is now or playing the brand of football that we were, when Sam was first appointed, and I imagine neither did Sam. My point is that, if highly regarded managers such as Allardyce can't fair too well at Newcastle, than what's the risk in giving someone like Keegan who has a great relationship with the fans, club and most importantly, seems to know what is required of a Newcastle manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,537 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    As a good as Owen has been in the past, he has done sweet FA for us. Admittedly that's as a result of injuries, but I have said it to my mates for the last year or so that I think he's crocked for good.

    Also, I imagine that Owen still sees himself in a Liverpool Jersey, I know I do. He just doesn't seem fully right at Newcastle. So, if there are ill feelings between him and Keegan, and it resulted in him moving, I certainly wouldn't be too gutted.

    Plus, I don't buy into all this never go back lark. Look at Redknapp, Walter Smith, Lippi with Juve.

    As a Newcastle fan, i'm not deluded enough to think that upon King Kevs return were going to be back where we were when he left, but I think he can potentially turn us into a top 7 team in the next 18 months, and then after that, bring the club back to where t was under Robson's tenure, with a cup run or two in there. For me, that would be more than enough.

    Sure, it could all go tits up, but unless we got a Mourinho or Lippi, which we never would have, any potential candidate we could have hoped to attract (Hughes, Houllier, Deschamps etc.) could have made a balls of it.

    I was bulling when Sam was sacked, really thought he needed more time. But if i'm being honest, I didn't think the club would be where it is now or playing the brand of football that we were, when Sam was first appointed, and I imagine neither did Sam. My point is that, if highly regarded managers such as Allardyce can't fair too well at Newcastle, than what's the risk in giving someone like Keegan who has a great relationship with the fans, club and most importantly, seems to know what is required of a Newcastle manager.

    Agreed..I'd be quite happy to see the back of Owen as well..fvckin little ponce...Shearer/Ferdinand/Asprilla had no problem with Keegan did they?
    With Owen it's all me me me..tosser.
    Definitely thought that Sam was the man to turn things around as well, especially the whole background staff etc..it worked at Bolton and I was eager to see the same thing implemented at Newcastle..getting their training regime into the modern times..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    I still have no doubt he would have turned it around, if he had been given any sort of decent amount of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,149 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    'Good for football, love to see Keegan do it,'
    .......eh manage a succesfull Football Club?.
    No wait.... that would be too obvious. :D

    Not a bitter ManC fan? :p

    Bitter about what exactly? We now have structure and stability and look like we could potentially win something. Your club is a sham.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Bitter about what exactly? We now have structure and stability and look like we could potentially win something. Your club is a sham.
    I'd take Ashley over Thaksin anyday.

    Wait until the going gets tough, then see...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    both of ye should just be thankful ye dont have Gillette and Hicks and shut up moaning! ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    He resigned from Newcastle mid-season for non-footballing reasons, and left us in a great position.

    Left Fulham after promotion to answer a nation's cry for help and take over England.

    Left England because he no longer felt he was up to it and saved the FA from having to sack him.

    Left Man City because his heart was no longer in it. Hardly a complete failure. Had them playing some of the best football ever seen at Maine Road upon winning promotion.

    I can only see him leaving Newcastle again if it goes completely tits up.


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