Who is excluded from the internet.

ShoulderChip · 16-01-2008 03:20PM #1

In research of an essay on web2.0 and having a personal presence on the internet, the topic of social exclusion came up,
who do you think is excluded from these services?

On the face of things they are much more inclusionary then exclusionary, people from all over the world are welcome to have a personal presence.

Is it just the poor and computer iliterate who are left out?

Also what is teh story with china?
do they allow their citizens to use these sites, and are they at risk in doing so?

MarkR · 16-01-2008 03:25PM

I'm not allowed on the internet. Oh hamburgers, someone's coming! *throws notebook out window*

MoominPapa · 16-01-2008 03:25PM

John Waters

rubadub · 16-01-2008 03:30PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Is it just the poor and computer iliterate who are left out?

Also what is teh story with china?
do they allow their citizens to use these sites, and are they at risk in doing so?

Free internet in public libraries. When I was in China I didnt notice any restriction, but wasnt looking up dodgy stuff.

Dave! · 16-01-2008 03:31PM

MoominPapa wrote: »

John Waters

Guillotine for him please.

Stephen · 16-01-2008 03:32PM

^ agreed.

WRT China the public does have access to the internet but it is monitored and certain sites that the Chinese authorities don't like (such as BBC News, anything to do with falun gong or free Tibet, etc) are blocked.

Susannahmia · 16-01-2008 03:35PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

In research of an essay on web2.0 and having a personal presence on the internet, the topic of social exclusion came up,
who do you think is excluded from these services?

On the face of things they are much more inclusionary then exclusionary, people from all over the world are welcome to have a personal presence.

Is it just the poor and computer iliterate who are left out?

Also what is teh story with china?
do they allow their citizens to use these sites, and are they at risk in doing so?

Do yizzer own homework!:p

16-01-2008 03:39PM

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Karoma · 16-01-2008 03:46PM

I'll leave the thread open in the hopes that the OP gets and uses answers from After Hours and fails miserably.

Yore da is excluded.

Maximilian · 16-01-2008 03:46PM

Amy Fitzpatrick.

MarkR · 16-01-2008 03:48PM

That guy who was just a head. He can't access the internet either. Very sad story. :-(

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 16-01-2008 03:48PM

people without computers... which is most of the worlds population isn't it?

Terry · 16-01-2008 03:55PM

Web 2.0 isn't very dial-up friendly, so you could throw in some of those who still don't have access to broadband.
Web 2.0 also isn't any to to computer illiterate people.

ShoulderChip · 16-01-2008 04:14PM

Karoma wrote: »

I'll leave the thread open in the hopes that the OP gets and uses answers from After Hours and fails miserably.

Yore da is excluded.

Is there another forum where it would be more appropiate? humanities or tech?

Genghiz Cohen · 16-01-2008 04:15PM

People who are too stupid to plug in their modem.

kevmy · 16-01-2008 04:18PM

Noobs?

MarkR · 16-01-2008 04:32PM

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Is there another forum where it would be more appropiate? humanities or tech?

Go for humanities I would guess. It is for reasoned debate seemingly.

pm. · 16-01-2008 04:33PM

most people that live rural find it very hard and expensive to use the Internet if they can get it at all.

kodute · 16-01-2008 04:36PM

Oh, they have the internet on computers now?!

roughan · 16-01-2008 04:36PM

Gary Glitter

im_invisible · 16-01-2008 05:31PM

wtf is web2.0?

*too lazy to google/wiki it

Maximilian · 16-01-2008 05:33PM

Cats.

Just thought I would give people the opportunity to post an amusing picture

ScumLord · 16-01-2008 05:34PM

Stupid poor people, the best thing is it's OK to insult them here because the dumb ****s can't read or use computers.

Maximilian · 16-01-2008 05:35PM

Oh, and before I forget, Yore Ma.

phasers · 16-01-2008 06:44PM

Girls

Capt'n Midnight · 16-01-2008 07:06PM

im_invisible wrote: »

wtf is web2.0?

*too lazy to google/wiki it

qft

seriously apart from buzzwords wtf is it at the end of the day ??

many muslim countries restrict internet access to certain sites as do some south east asian ones
here every site you visit is recorded for years which can lead to voluntary self-censorship by users

have you seen the per MB prices for 3G / mobile phone users :eek:

Overheal · 16-01-2008 07:41PM

I think web 2.0 is this big dramatic increase we're seeing in media content on the web. You know, like youtube and stuff. The internet used to be the best you could hope for is porn images. Videos on old dial up used to take hours to buffer if at all. Hence the old internet was primarily a novelty and not used for anything too major. The biggest files for piracy at the time were Super Nintendo video games, and one of those still took you and hour or two to get because they were a whopping 1.5MB in size :eek:

Web 2.0 is not an 'upgrade' so to speak. The same technology that ran the net 15 years ago runs it today. But now its been built up to such a high capacity that the target user is now capable of downloading at speeds hundreds of times that of what they could previously, opening up opportunities for a richer level of content and interaction. In Web 2.0 places like boards.ie and youtube and myspace all have a place, basically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0

patrickc · 16-01-2008 08:02PM

priest and benedict xvi incase they look at women

Karoma · 16-01-2008 08:07PM

Overheal wrote: »

I think web 2.0 is this big dramatic increase we're seeing in media content on the web. You know, like youtube and stuff. The internet used to be the best you could hope for is porn images. Videos on old dial up used to take hours to buffer if at all. Hence the old internet was primarily a novelty and not used for anything too major. The biggest files for piracy at the time were Super Nintendo video games, and one of those still took you and hour or two to get because they were a whopping 1.5MB in size :eek:

Just the transfer of information, via a good means of communication - some web pages even focused on content more than presentation. The bastards. Now, we have what? YouTube? This is the prized web 2.0? Some twunt crying that we should "leave Britney alone"?! Or numerous idiots singing karaoke in front of a webcam? That's web 2.0? To hell with that.

Web 2.0 is not an 'upgrade' so to speak.

Correct, it's a new buzzword / spin.

Who's excluded? For one: People who opt-out of having to endure this crap.
If this is an irreversible direction that we're heading towards, I'm pulling the plug and joining the Amish.

ShoulderChip: defining web 2.0 would be a good start. Go for it.

thebman · 16-01-2008 08:30PM

I'm surprised it took this long for someone to mention blind people and people with disabilities in general such as diseases that prevent someone from making accurate movements with the mouse. Technology is trying to get around this barrier for the different disabilities but its still there.

Unintuitive controls prevent people who are not comfortable or in other words people that don't work often with computers.

People with no broadband.

People in countries with firewalls that block certain sites.

The blocking of certain services by ISP's to restrict Internet usage by its users.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality_in_the_United_States

Cost of broadband (we are one of the most expensive in Europe and the world for broadband so its likely not everyone can afford broadband in Ireland or even dial up given it can end up being more expensive as its billed by the minute)

EamonnKeane · 16-01-2008 10:41PM

people whose fingers are so chubby they can't type in a web address, and can't use the voice-operated ones because their mouths are full of food

Who is excluded from the internet.

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