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Do I need planning permission?

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  • #32
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    alinoee out of interest what background do you have in the planning process? It seems that while you may have good intentions the advice is just wide of the mark.

    I was just wondering have you confused a planning consultant with local authority planners?


  • #33
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,869 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    alinoee wrote: »
    no probs : ) you exempt. as long as you keep leaflet that muffler posted as guidance. and sorry for the rest : )
    Quit while you're behind.

    And as smashey said leave the modding to us.


  • #34
    alinoee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭alinoee


    Stevie
    you have moderators who knows everything and people dont. its like talking to the council : ) they know better! its up to you and good luck.
    Stevie Dakota wrote: »
    I want to put up a canopy over the front door as the rain hits it pretty hard. The kind of thing that would extend a meter or so and be tiled, and be supported by two wooden pillars, pretty simple. Is this something that would require a planning application?

    Based in Wicklow.

    Cheers.


  • #35
    AckwelFoley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Is it time for the lolcats yet? :D



    Anyway to reiterate, i can say you dont need planning and i would be confident you dont after hearing the site and house detail,

    However regardless, it is your responsibility to check with the relevant local authority, as each authority has a different criteria in their local development plan and detail


  • #36
    alinoee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭alinoee


    but the regulations are this same aren't they?

    However regardless, it is your responsibility to check with the relevant local authority, as each authority has a different criteria in their local development plan and detail[/QUOTE]


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  • #37
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    alinoee wrote: »

    Stevie
    you have moderators who knows everything and people dont. its like talking to the council : ) they know better! its up to you and good luck.

    It would appear that you certainly dont know everything when it comes to planning.

    As has before check with the planners if you want but at the end of the day you have to make the decision.


  • #38
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    alinoee wrote: »
    but the regulations are this same aren't they?
    No they are not.
    A canopy and a porch are different.
    OP, You need planning permission
    SDCC wrote:
    Do I need planning permission to make changes to the front of my house?
    Planning permission is required for all extensions proposed to the front of a house (except for small porch structures outlined below). This includes structures such as a canopy or bay windows proposed along the front wall, or other changes that will affect the character of the building. Permission is not required for small porches where the following applies; - Any porch cannot be located less than 2 metres from any road. - The floor area the porch must not exceed 2 square metres. - The height of any porch shall not exceed, in the case of a porch with a tiled or slated pitched roof, 4 metres or, in any other case, 3 metres
    From here, http://planning.southdublin.ie/index.php?option=com_simplefaq&task=display&Itemid=&catid=174


  • #39
    alinoee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭alinoee


    no i dont. but thats the alternative opinion.
    i'm sure you have all answers to planning and building regs : )
    kearnsr wrote: »
    It would appear that you certainly dont know everything when it comes to planning.

    As has before check with the planners if you want but at the end of the day you have to make the decision.


  • #40
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Mellor wrote: »
    No they are not.
    A canopy and a porch are different.
    OP, You need planning permission


    From here, http://planning.southdublin.ie/index.php?option=com_simplefaq&task=display&Itemid=&catid=174
    Of course, speak to the CoCo, they may allow it go go through as it is set back from the road on a rural site. But strictly speaking PP is required.


  • #41
    alinoee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭alinoee


    its depends what planning dpt/court will call a porch not you.
    i have dealt with with letterkeny, dublin dun loaghaire, fingal, leitrim, kerry and couple more.
    for some reason they had a different interpretation than you do . but thats it. it is pointless. no more conversation. have a nice evening
    Mellor wrote: »
    No they are not.
    A canopy and a porch are different.
    OP, You need planning permission


    From here, http://planning.southdublin.ie/index.php?option=com_simplefaq&task=display&Itemid=&catid=174


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  • #42
    AckwelFoley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I dont know why, but the word spanner springs to mind, coupled with the verb "to be" would aptly describe the subject that will not cease with their pedantic crusade.


  • #43
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    alinoee wrote: »
    its depends what planning dpt/court will call a porch not you.
    i have dealt with with letterkeny, dublin dun loaghaire, fingal, leitrim, kerry and couple more.
    for some reason they had a different interpretation than you do . but thats it. it is pointless. no more conversation. have a nice evening

    If you have worked with the planners here how how much have you piad them for their advice?


  • #44
    sinnerboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    what if I wanted a Porsche ? :D



    ............PS , OP , you need permission IMO


  • #45
    Ice_Box
    Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Ice_Box


    As a matter of interest. When the canopy is constructed does this become the new boundry of the house?

    For example look at this picture

    9%20CGrovemain.JPG

    Would it be OK to construct a porch the full width of the canopy as technically its inside the boundry of your house even though the porch is well over the 2square metre limit?

    Or would it be ok to swap the location of the front door and the window?

    I would guess that a change such as this would effect the "character of the building" as outlined in the rules.

    What do you guys think?


  • #46
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,869 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Ice_Box you would need permission for the proposal as it basically changes the external appearance of the house.


  • #47
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,872 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Ice_Box wrote: »
    As a matter of interest.

    (1) When the canopy is constructed does this become the new boundry of the house?

    (2) Would it be OK to construct a porch the full width of the canopy as technically its inside the boundry of your house even though the porch is well over the 2square metre limit?

    (3) Or would it be ok to swap the location of the front door and the window?

    I would guess that a change such as this would effect the "character of the building" as outlined in the rules.

    What do you guys think?

    only my opinion but....
    1. No
    2. No
    3. No


  • #48
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    only my opinion but....
    1. No
    2. No
    3. No
    I agree with syd, solid no on all accounts.

    What ever about a canopy under 2 m.sq, (not exempt but CoCos could likely allow it). But one over this is no way allowed. Not sure what you mean about a "new boundary". This is no reason for exemption, and even so, the canopy is outside it imo.


  • #49
    Ice_Box
    Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Ice_Box


    Just as I thought. Thanks all.


  • #50
    sinnerboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    only my opinion but....
    1. No
    2. No
    3. No

    agree
    agree
    agrre


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