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If you discovered your 'girlfriend' was a man.

  • 04-01-2008 11:59AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭


    I read on another part of the board about a poster who got savagely assaulted by a new boyfriend, when he found out that 'she' was formerly a he.

    Personally, as a guy, I would be very, very upset/angry/disgusted if I was seeing a girl who didn't tell me right away about it.

    What would your views be?

    Personally, I would steer clear. Immediately.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Enright


    put on a pair of trainers and run like fXXk

    you wouldnt see me for dust


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    I read on another part of the board about a poster who got savagely assaulted by a new boyfriend, when he found out that 'she' was formerly a he.

    Link?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Probably get myself to the opticians quick smart and have him replace the old fashioned "letters that gradually get smaller" test with a "spot the big fukk off adams apple" test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I would probably be wierded out.

    Can't see why on earth the situation would call for violence, that's pretty god damn shameful.


  • Posts: 8,092 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Refer to Ace Ventura - thats how I'd react if not worse accompanied BY ANGER !


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  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would be more surprised initially if I found out I had a girlfriend.

    Overcoming that I would feel very uneasy, maybe even a little sick but does anyone know how exactly they'd feel unless it did happen to them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,073 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I'd take his cock out of my mouth and ask why he didn't tell me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    I read on another part of the board about a poster who got savagely assaulted by a new boyfriend, when he found out that 'she' was formerly a he.

    Personally, as a guy, I would be very, very upset/angry/disgusted if I was seeing a girl who didn't tell me right away about it.

    What would your views be?

    Personally, I would steer clear. Immediately.

    If you are referring to the post that I think you are then I'm pretty sure that after 3 years as a couple the guy knew. He lied to the judge and said he didn't know though.


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Can't see why on earth the situation would call for violence, that's pretty god damn shameful.


    But what about the ego?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭Varkov


    S/he should have told the fella straight out. You can't be pulling that sort of stunt and not be expecting something along those lines.

    Depends on how far you went before s/he told you, but yeah. I'd be fairly disgusted and angry. Probably just leg it though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Petey2006


    Agree with Karl. I'd be very very weirded out, but there's no need for violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,346 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    FFS lads and ladies, You all know the rules by now - link, pick or it didn't happen :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Jay D wrote: »
    But what about the ego?

    What about it?

    There's no excuse for beating a woman, even if she used to be a man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Would you still consider them men after they have had everything changed etc? I wouldn't.

    Having said that I am in no way attracted to women so I would never date a female to male transexual because they always look like women with a beard. Plus I still don't think they can construct proper willies and that is the best part of a man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    I'm not linking because I don't think the poster will want the attention. He/she will post when they want.

    LadyJ, I thought it was 3 weeks, my mistake. Apologies to the poster.

    Lux, the person is still a man. Will there be a clitoris? How about milk ducts to feed a baby? Womb? All gender defining organs IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    I'm not linking because I don't think the poster will want the attention. He/she will post when they want.

    LadyJ, I thought it was 3 weeks, my mistake. Apologies to the poster.

    Lux, the person is still a man. Will there be a clitoris? How about milk ducts to feed a baby? Womb? All gender defining organs IMO.

    They will have a clitoris, a far more sensitive one than real ladies apparently but none of the other stuff. But I do really believe that some people were born in the wrong body and that their brain doesn't match their biological gender.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    scary...... but violence is not the answer children!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    You'd have to look at it from the other side of the equation. The transgender person feels that they have always been a "she" and now have gotten the female body that they want, so in their mind they are a woman, no different from any other (with the exception of the missing organs).

    While every male would want such a person to walk around with "I used to be a man" tattooed on their forehead, from their POV declaring their history up front is simply going to freak people out. No-one else is obligated to declare their history up front, so why should they?

    It's something that should probably be brought up fairly quickly though. Not least because the issue of kids is there, most people have fairly strong feelings on the subject, so the other person in the relationship should be given the opportunity to ditch if they have that feeling about it, but after they've taken the time to get to know the transgender person.
    Can't see why on earth the situation would call for violence, that's pretty god damn shameful.
    Denial. Like those Westboro Baptist people. If you were always shaky about your sexuality and then discovered that the person you'd fallen in love with over the past three years used to be a man, you'd be forced to face up to what you never wanted to face up to.

    I'd agree with the other poster who says that after three years, you'd have to already know but were happy to not broach the subject.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    What about it?

    There's no excuse for beating a woman, even if she used to be a man.


    A man is a man is a man. He can pretend to be otherwise by chopping it off but he's still a bloke regardless of whether he calls himself Andy or Pamela. Whether that in turn opens him up to being punched......

    If I found out my missus used to be a bloke I'd be extremely pissed/sick/embarrassed. Enough to punch him a few times... yeah probably depending on the moments directly after the revelation altho I doubt I kick the crap out of someone.... But for me that would be a massive betrayal and I don't really know what I'd do. I'd fully support a bloke who kicked the crap out of a "girl" who turned out to have been a man in the past and "she" kept that secret from him.

    In saying all that I'm happy my current is 100% XX so I doubt I need to worry about the problem just yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    I heard about a case in the US, where some guy sued his wife of several years when he found out it was actually a man. Apparently the gent in question had been tucking his purple love bison into the pelvic cavity, thus disguising it.


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  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What about it?

    There's no excuse for beating a woman, even if she used to be a man.

    light a rainbow.

    where did I put my Blue Peter badge now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Apparently the gent in question had been tucking his purple love bison into the pelvic cavity, thus disguising it.

    What the....... Now that's a party trick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,004 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    While I get that a transgendered person feels that they were born in the wrong body I don't think I could ever consider them to have become the sex they've been reassigned to. For want of a better analogy a kit car porsche is not a porsche even if it looks exactly like one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Sleepy wrote: »
    While I get that a transgendered person feels that they were born in the wrong body I don't think I could ever consider them to have become the sex they've been reassigned to. For want of a better analogy a kit car porsche is not a porsche even if it looks exactly like one.
    This is why I reckon it needs to be brought up early on, but not immediately.

    To take your porsche analogy, the person should be given the opportunity to test drive the car and get to know what it's like. Then before they hand over their cash, they're told it's actually a kit car. Some people will immediately say no and walk away, others (who may have initially said no) may decide that they're happy to continue.

    Imagine a former convict (for something like armed robbery) declaring to every potential partner that they had a criminal conviction. They'd get very few takers. After a period of getting to know the person though, the potential partner may overlook the conviction, when revealed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,027 ✭✭✭The_B_Man
    Something about sandwiches


    bleh, i'd probably vomit on their face, then elbow them in the sick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    A man is a man is a man. He can pretend to be otherwise by chopping it off but he's still a bloke regardless of whether he calls himself Andy or Pamela. Whether that in turn opens him up to being punched......

    If I found out my missus used to be a bloke I'd be extremely pissed/sick/embarrassed. Enough to punch him a few times... yeah probably depending on the moments directly after the revelation altho I doubt I kick the crap out of someone.... But for me that would be a massive betrayal and I don't really know what I'd do. I'd fully support a bloke who kicked the crap out of a "girl" who turned out to have been a man in the past and "she" kept that secret from him.

    In saying all that I'm happy my current is 100% XX so I doubt I need to worry about the problem just yet.

    Yes, sure. So if your girlfriend looked like this, and you'd known her for years, loved her etc, if she suddenly said 'I used to be a man' you'd suddenly lay into her and beat her senseless, and feel justified?

    You're a good person.

    If my girlfriend suddenly turned around and said 'I used to be a man', well, frankly what can you do? If I had been seeing a girl for years and something like that was outed, after being with her for so many years and happily at that, if there was a reason to end the relationship it would be over the glaring hidden truth, but that alone. Not because 'Oh god, you used to be a man, get lost.' I don't think it'd be that simple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    I can't believe that anyone would think it's ok to beat someone within an
    inch of their life for any reason whatsoever. Sure I'd feel betrayed and it would be
    a very difficult thing to come to terms with but if you're not into it then dump them,
    don't kill them.


  • Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LadyJ wrote: »
    I can't believe that anyone would think it's ok to beat someone within an
    inch of their life for any reason whatsoever. Sure I'd feel betrayed and it would be
    a very difficult thing to come to terms with but if you're not into it then dump them,
    don't kill them.

    I doubt many people genuinely believe in this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    I dont mean to be blunt, but if she had a vagina, and breasts, and looked like a woman, then I wouldnt care. There are some transgender women(ie ex-men) who look like men with breasts, and there are others who look very feminine, and attractive. These is even a chick who posed for playboy who is transgender, and there is nothing masculine about her, and I definitely would not kick her out of bed. Cant remember her name though.

    What difference does it make? Having a relationship is about sexual attraction, and personality attraction. If she is attractive in both senses then whats the problem?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    Jay D wrote: »
    I doubt many people genuinely believe in this


    I think there are a lot of men out there who would not hesitate to
    beat the crap out of someone for this kind of thing. I wish I was wrong
    but I don't think that I am tbh.


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