Transfer Window Movers and Shakers

Tusky · 01-01-2008 02:29PM

Savman wrote: »

Mascherano could end up anywhere tbh. There's no valid reason to suggest it wouldnt be Man City, he'd fit right in there. £17m is absolutely crazy money though, worth half that maybe.

You reckon hes only worth 8.5m ? The mind boggles. Hes one of the best holding midfielder's in thew world, a very important player for the Argentine national squad and is only 23!

Drag00n79 · 01-01-2008 02:33PM

£8.5m is way too low for him.

Aquos76 · 01-01-2008 02:48PM

So what is the deal with Mascherano, is his loan spell up now or at the end of the season. I am guessing liverpool have the option of buying him but only at a pre agreed price, which is rumoured to be around the 18m mark.

So as already mentioned here, if the pool board fail to come up with the money, he could in theory end up anywhere on a short term loan deal again.

Savman · 01-01-2008 02:56PM

Tusky wrote: »

You reckon hes only worth 8.5m ? The mind boggles. Hes one of the best holding midfielder's in thew world, a very important player for the Argentine national squad and is only 23!

Only worth £8.5m? :eek:
It's all a matter of context, I don't think he's worth anywhere near £17m, that's not to say someone won't pay it, maybe they will, I'm just saying I can never see a player like Mascherano proving good value for that kind of megabucks £9m(ish) I would've thought was about the going rate on the market.

Shamrok wrote:

£8.5m is way too low for him.

Fans usually tend to overrate their own players.

Savman · 01-01-2008 02:58PM

Aquos76 wrote: »

So what is the deal with Mascherano, is his loan spell up now or at the end of the season. I am guessing liverpool have the option of buying him but only at a pre agreed price, which is rumoured to be around the 18m mark.

So as already mentioned here, if the pool board fail to come up with the money, he could in theory end up anywhere on a short term loan deal again.

I think that's basically it, apparently there's a buyout clause with his "owners" for £17m or whatever. I can kinda understand why Liverpool owners are reluctant to sanction the transfer, its very much inflated and they probably know most of the money will end up with some dodgy "football property rights" company with south american ties.:rolleyes:

mayordenis · 01-01-2008 03:27PM

Savman wrote: »

I'm just saying I can never see a player like Mascherano proving good value for that kind of megabucks £9m(ish) I would've thought was about the going rate on the market.

do you know anything about the market?
tell me a high profile player a similar quality whos transferred for that kind of money?
nobody, alonso was the last world class midfielder i've seen at in and around that mark, other than that you have to look at essien(brilliant player worth 20odd million) hargreaves (not worth the money not near masch standard) carrick (lol) who else? psh posh

Attractive Nun · 01-01-2008 04:42PM

Mascherano, in my books, is just about worth £17m in today's market. Holding midfielders of that quality are not easy to find, there's probably only ~10 really world class (as in, would be good enough for any title-challenging team) in the world and Mascherano is one of them. To mayordenis, I'd point out that Hargreaves is another. The holding midfielder, in today's game, is one of the most important positions on the pitch - in many cases the most important. Just look at the problems different teams have had when they neglect it (England with Lampard/Gerrard, United when Keane left, Real Madrid when Makelele left vs. Chelsea when Makelele arrived, etc). The holding midfielder is a player you base your team around, for years in some cases.

£17m is a fair price for a player of Mascherano's youth and already proven ability.

EDIT: Just to clarify, thinking of the 'world class' (yeah, I know) holding midfielders playing today, I'm thinking Mascherano, Hargreaves, Essien, De Rossi, Cambiasso, Gattuso, Xavi, maybe a few others depending on how you define the role. Considering none of the above are on the market at all really, Liverpool paying big money to secure Mascherano makes even more sense.

Raskolnikov · 01-01-2008 04:44PM

Apparently Riise is a target for Valencia.

Zapp Brannigan · 01-01-2008 05:04PM

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Apparently Riise is a target for Valencia.

Swap deal for Villa, maybe?

estebancambias · 01-01-2008 05:06PM

Hope Doyle gets the move..he deserves it.

evad_lhorg · 01-01-2008 05:06PM

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Swap deal for Villa, maybe?

Villa plus 10 mil

dc69 · 01-01-2008 05:08PM

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Swap deal for Villa, maybe?

i would say if that happens then david silva will come to liverpool.ronald doesnt want him and benitez does

Zapp Brannigan · 01-01-2008 05:16PM

Koeman doesn't want Silva!? Well then the pool should snap him up, the lad is class!

eirebhoy · 01-01-2008 05:35PM

A few of the transfers gone through today,

01/01/2008 	 Chris Gunter (Wal) 	RB 	 Cardiff City (Wal) 	 Tottenham Hotspur (Eng)   Undisc.
01/01/2008 	 Breno  (Bra) 	        DF 	 Sao Paulo  (Bra) 	 Bayern Munchen  (Ger) 	&#163;8.6m
01/01/2008 	 Kleberson  (Bra) 	CM 	 Besiktas  (Tur) 	 Flamengo  (Bra) 	Undisc.
01/01/2008 	 Jimmy Ryan  (Ire) 	CM 	 Liverpool  (Eng) 	 Shrewsbury Town  (Eng)
01/01/2008 	 Gary Speed  (Wal) 	CM 	 Bolton (Eng)            Sheffield United  (Eng) 	Loan
01/01/2008 	 Stephen Bradley  (Ire)	MF 	 Drogheda United  (Ire)	 Falkirk  (Sco) 	&#163;?
01/01/2008 	 Alex Cooper  (Sco) 	WG 	 Ross County  (Sco) 	 Liverpool  (Eng) 	&#163;100k
01/01/2008 	 Manucho  (Ang) 	ST 	 Petro Atletico (Ang)    Manchester United  (Eng) 	Undisc.
01/01/2008 	 Adriano  (Bra) 	ST 	 Inter Milan  (Ita) 	 Sao Paulo  (Bra) 	Loan
01/01/2008 	 Leon McSweeney  (Ire) 	ST 	 Cork City  (Ire) 	 Stockport County  (Eng) 	&#163;?

Dave! · 01-01-2008 05:43PM

where'd you get those eirebhoy?

eirebhoy · 01-01-2008 05:45PM

http://www.footballtransfers.info/transfers/alltrans_world.php

Dave! · 01-01-2008 05:47PM

Cheers son!

Guy:Incognito · 01-01-2008 06:01PM

Didnt think Speed had a move on the cards.He's done really well when he played.

Guess Giggs will be the only one left to further the scorign in every season record next year.

Attractive Nun · 01-01-2008 06:07PM

Stekelly wrote: »

Didnt think Speed had a move on the cards.He's done really well when he played.

Guess Giggs will be the only one left to further the scorign in every season record next year.

It's only a loan, he might still have a chance.

PHB · 01-01-2008 06:17PM

Adriano back to Brazil, nuts!

sorry

Royale with Cheese · 01-01-2008 06:19PM

What now? You mean Kleberson? Adriano?

Helix · 01-01-2008 06:29PM

yeah adriano signed for sao paolo on loan

then was drunk and got in a car crash

Vokes · 01-01-2008 06:54PM

Damn, Bayern splashing the cash again! Breno any good as a CB?

Guy:Incognito · 01-01-2008 07:05PM

"Rio De Janeiro - Troubled Brazilian striker Adriano, who joined Sao Paulo on loan from Inter Milan earlier this month"

The month was only 12 hours old.

Kleberson continueing his rise to the top I see.

Helix · 01-01-2008 07:06PM

im sure the article was written in december in fairness

Guy:Incognito · 01-01-2008 07:08PM

Helix wrote: »

im sure the article was written in december in fairness

Yeah I assumed but it was dated today. The move was mentioned in it tho , so you never know.

Actually did he move already or was it only today? cos I hadnt heard anything before that

eirebhoy · 01-01-2008 07:33PM

He may have moved over last month but it's only possible to register the transfer from today.

kryogen · 01-01-2008 07:36PM

estebancambias wrote: »

Hope Doyle gets the move..he deserves it.

but do you think it would be good for his career to sit on the bench at chelsea? im sure steve sidwell can advise him best on the matter

OPENROAD · 01-01-2008 09:17PM

estebancambias wrote: »

Hope Doyle gets the move..he deserves it.

A good player but not top 4 material imo.

Helix · 01-01-2008 09:19PM

hed do a job in the second tier teams tho, which is still a step up from reading

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