goals/minutes on pitch stats

Haha I think 1 assist can be forgiven when you're top scorer in both the Premiership and the Champions League. People need to be realistic instead of horribly biased.

Mr Alan wrote: »

I'd rate Ronaldo as more World class than Tevez and Rooney tbh. Tevez scored wat, 9 goals last year? and hasnt overly impressed at Utd so far imo.

Rooney, i would class as having the potential to be world class-and is,at times,world class, but for me the consistency isnt there, i dont think he has delivered as much as a lot of people have expected him to do. But there is still time for him to do that.

I agree (more than most) that Ronaldo is annoying as hell, and as a person, its very easy to dislike him, but his form the last couple of years really has been outstanding.

Agreed on all. Tevez has time to grow but so far is a bit, well Schevchenko*-lite. Rooney last year certainly wasnt the player he was at 17/18, but i think he is back on the up, and his CL performance has come on miles. And he has 13 odd years left in him, and I somehow doubt he will be playing for West Brom by his late 20s.

Ronaldo can be a *just remembered the player abuse rule here* ahem, not a particularly sporting individual on the pitch. Apparently in real life he is bang on.

**** he must be for Rooney to have buried the hatchet with him, no Barton-Dabo craic with them yet and doesnt look like there will be.

*: I just realised that is the first time Ive had to type Adriy Shevs name, and **** me it took about four edits, and Ill bet Im still not right


Edit- as for assists, if I could move my legs in such a hyponotically confusing manner as Ronaldo I wouldnt bother with assist, id be self confident As seen by his goal scoring rate.

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

I just love it when people doubt Ronaldo, its so funny.

And other people love it when he fails. And if you think back a couple of seasons to the circus act of a player he was originally then I'd tone down the smugness a tad

All I'm saying is talk about his greatness in 5 or 6 years. He's on the middle of his second good season. And people like to see him fail because he typifies the spoilt, cheating stereotype of a modern footballer

So what, you think we should only look at things in retrospect? What's wrong with appreciating a talent while he's playing well. I only wish I was around to watch the likes of Pele, George Best and Johann Cruyff in their prime. I'd certainly like to think that those who were lucky enough to see them play weren't sitting around thinking 'Hang on now, these guys mightn't be as good as we think. Let's wait until they score a hatrick in three separate world cup finals before we jump the gun'. Why can't people just appreciate good players for what they are?

I can remember watching Ronaldinho for Barca a few years ago, thinking that this guy is special. People were trying to compare him to the all time greats, and fair enough that was probably premature as it turns out, but I still remember his performance against Real Madrid when the Bernebeau applauded him off the pitch. Sure, he's gone to **** now but that takes nothing away from his incredible 2005 season. Same with Ronaldo - maybe he's not as good as some people hype him to be, maybe he will go to **** in a few years time, but right now he's playing football that is a pleasure to watch. If people can't appreciate good football when they see it, without searching for something to complain about, then why even watch football in the first place?

For the amount of times he's fouled, Ronaldo does a lot less moaning than most. In fact, if I was preparing a case against Ronaldo, 'moaning' would be one of the last things I'd complain about. How he puts up with the treatment he's often subjected to without reacting violently is quite impressive IMO. I never understand why people will complain so vehemently about 'whingers' like Ronaldo who sometimes get upset by rough, often unfair, play while eulogising the 'hard' players in the game. I consider it a far greater crime for someone to make a tackle designed to hurt or injure an opposition player than that opposition player calling for the tackler to be sent off.

Diving is not on, though. I used to defend Ronaldo somewhat on this, because he did come from a different culture (that Portugal team in the world cup should be ashamed of their diving in that competition), and he had cut out diving from his game to a great extent. But he's picked it up again recently, and it's not on IMO. Really annoys me actually.