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spideog7 · 23-10-2007 8:50pm

Sorry to butt in here but I do believe we had this conversation before... that ammunition limit is actually seperate from condition C it's after all the conditions.
It goes :

...subject to:
Condition A...
Condition B...
Condition C...
"and to purchase cartridges...."

Just thought I'd point that out

maglite · 24-10-2007 7:20pm

it depend on how you want to read it

there is no clear distintion

i lovely irish document

dixsey · 26-10-2007 8:24pm

Thanks for clearing that up for me
cheers

quackquackBOOM · 29-11-2007 11:06pm

cz 452 lux .22lr
cz varmint .17hmr
browning 525 sporter 12g
Benelli semi auto 12g

José Alaninho · 13-12-2007 8:12pm

harmoniums wrote: »

and my new safe!

Mother of GOD. How many of those beauties have been cruelly de-activated though? A friend of mine has an original colt SAA she had to de-activate when she moved here from the US.

harmoniums · 18-12-2007 10:03pm

I live in the states so they are all fully functioning
since then I've got 2 polish tokarev TT33s and a M1 Carbine
Saving up for a M1A now....

Deactivating a Colt SAA seems more of a crime than illegally possessing it!

José Alaninho · 19-12-2007 10:15am

harmoniums wrote: »

I live in the states so they are all fully functioning
since then I've got 2 polish tokarev TT33s and a M1 Carbine
Saving up for a M1A now....

Deactivating a Colt SAA seems more of a crime than illegally possessing it!

I was wondering! Think yourself lucky to live in a country with common-sense gun laws. As for the SAA, what can I say? Crime is certainly the word. She got to keep her 20 gauge winchester 1890 shotgun though...

Rovi · 19-12-2007 10:33am

Given a choice of disposal or deactivation, it's an understandable decision to make, but it's a pity to hear of interesting/rare/old firearms getting neutered.

The thing is, nowadays she could have kept it as a fully functional firearm, albeit with the convoluted rigmarole of acquiring a pistol licence here.

.243 · 24-12-2007 9:36am

christmas just came early,whoo-hoo !!!!!!!

bunny shooter · 24-12-2007 9:52am

Nice

peter-pantslez · 24-12-2007 11:59am

.243 what a beauty!!!

.243 · 24-12-2007 11:01pm

cheers lads,just to let yis know the picture isnt flipped its a left hand ejection gas operated,

Steyr · 25-12-2007 12:33am

Hi all, i have an Interest in Shooting, will get a Rifle one day, until then i have the pleasure of using this at the pleasure of The Dept Of Defence.:)

Regards
Dave.

Steyr · 25-12-2007 12:34am

.243 wrote: »

christmas just came early,whoo-hoo !!!!!!!

Lovely weapon.:)

It wasn't me! · 25-12-2007 1:18pm

Tut tut; firearm, not weapon.

Steyr · 25-12-2007 3:01pm

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Tut tut; firearm, not weapon.

It is indeed a weapon and a fine one too, i love the smell of cordite.

civdef · 25-12-2007 4:16pm

i love the smell of cordite.

Firing a Long Lee Enfield with original ammo?

newby.204 · 25-12-2007 5:11pm

Steyr wrote: »

It is indeed a weapon and a fine one too, i love the smell of cordite.

while this is personal abuse, your a twat its a firearm!! stop givin us a bad name because you fancy yourself as some sort of rambo!!

dresden8 · 25-12-2007 5:32pm

I think you will find that it is both a firearm and a weapon.

Grow up.

tuxy · 25-12-2007 5:39pm

it's the fu[king overtaking lane. :mad:

Steyr · 25-12-2007 6:50pm

civdef wrote: »

Firing a Long Lee Enfield with original ammo?

No 5.56MM NATO (.223rem), The round i use in the Steyr AUG A1. 30rd Magazine, The effective range of fire is anywhere between 450-500 meters with a standard assault rifle barrel and the rate of fire is 650 rounds per minute.

Steyr · 25-12-2007 6:55pm

newby.204 wrote: »

while this is personal abuse, your a twat its a firearm!! stop givin us a bad name because you fancy yourself as some sort of rambo!!

Your Sir are an Idiot, it is an Effective Modern Weapon, and furthermore i do not fancy myself as some sort of "rambo" as i am a member of the Irish Defence Force. The abuse here to a newbie is unreal. pathetic really if you read my first post you would see i stated i use the Steyr in the DF and have an Interest in shooting. Now please cop on. How exactly do i gave you a bad name by saying i have an interest?

NB i also suggest you educate yourself as a “firearm” means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm

Rovi · 25-12-2007 8:18pm

FFS lads , it's Christmas Day!
Peace on earth and all that.

The petty name calling stops now.
Because of the day that's in it, I'll leave it at that, but any more outbursts like this will earn infractions or bans.

patbundy · 25-12-2007 9:24pm

nice one rovi.
heres what santa brought me

Double Barrel · 26-12-2007 7:22pm

Sandy22 · 26-12-2007 9:24pm

Steyr wrote: »

No 5.56MM NATO (.223rem), The round i use in the Steyr AUG A1. 30rd Magazine,

I think he knows that. I think he also knows no-one uses cordite in 5.56mm NATO.

Steyr · 26-12-2007 9:31pm

Sandy22 wrote: »

I think he knows that. I think he also knows no-one uses cordite in 5.56mm NATO.

Legacy Weapons !

bunny shooter · 27-12-2007 1:26am

Steyr wrote: »

No 5.56MM NATO (.223rem), The round i use in the Steyr AUG A1. 30rd Magazine, The effective range of fire is anywhere between 450-500 meters with a standard assault rifle barrel and the rate of fire is 650 rounds per minute.

Effective individual range plus or minus 300 yds, effective section fire plus or minus 600 yds. 650 rounds per minute is the theoritical rate of fire. Bull**** baffles brains, but not here !

Welcome to our little cauldron. Don't take it personally, they're a friendly bunch really

Steyr · 28-12-2007 11:36pm

bunny shooter wrote: »

Effective individual range plus or minus 300 yds, effective section fire plus or minus 600 yds. 650 rounds per minute is the theoritical rate of fire. Bull**** baffles brains, but not here !

Welcome to our little cauldron. Don't take it personally, they're a friendly bunch really

Whats the most you have fired on the AUG? I managed 6 Mags with 29 in each Mag, just because we had and i quote my CQMS "too much ammo left over".;) Targets were down as we were finishing up so it was me and 5 others, using "effective fire" into the Butts...

I wont complain.

Mellor · 28-12-2007 11:49pm

Steyr wrote: »

NB i also suggest you educate yourself as a “firearm” means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm

Two small items.
First, in a firearm the projectile is powered by burning a propellant. Otherwaise all sorts would be included. It has no implications here, but if we are going to be tosing definations about, at least we should be accurate.

Second, a firearm is one that is capable of "causing serious bodily injury or death to a person". A weapon is an object that actually does it. The distinction is why you were called up on it.

don't take it personal, its just that there are alot of firearm/weapon bashers about. Anyway, welcome

bunny shooter · 29-12-2007 10:43pm

Steyr wrote: »

Whats the most you have fired on the AUG? I managed 6 Mags with 29 in each Mag, just because we had and i quote my CQMS "too much ammo left over".;) Targets were down as we were finishing up so it was me and 5 others, using "effective fire" into the Butts...

I wont complain.

My favourite thing was full mag (30) on full auto in one go

maglite · 30-12-2007 6:31pm

Steyr wrote: »

a “firearm” means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm

interesting

may i throw a couple of words out there
Crossbow, barrel?
airsoft, serious injury?, could hit your eye
pea shooter, oww my eye, my 5 year old just hit me in the eye wit his

and on the styer, 90 round drum full auto, and 5000 rounds in one sitting

IRLConor · 30-12-2007 7:47pm

maglite wrote: »

Crossbow, barrel?

I'd say this is only a firearm in the context of the Firearms Act(s) since crossbows are explicitly included in the definition of "firearm".

The dictionary definition of "firearm" that I have is:

Oxford English Dictionary wrote:

firearm n. (usu. in pl.) a gun, esp. a pistol or rifle.

and for completeness:

Oxford English Dictionary wrote:

weapon n. 1 A thing designed or used or usable for inflicting bodily harm (e.g. a gun or a cosh). 2 a means employed for trying to gain the advantage in a conflict (irony is a double-edged weapon).

By those definitions a firearm is a weapon (as are many otherwise innocuous things - the "usable" part is a flaw in the definition IMHO).

However, many people (myself included) prefer the use of "firearm" or "gun" over "weapon" when talking about privately held guns because of the implication of intent to cause harm inherent in the word "weapon". For this reason, I would refer to a Steyr AUG as a "weapon" because it's intended for killing people and I'd call a Feinwerkbau 601 a "firearm" or "rifle" because it's intended for non-violent use.

Mellor · 30-12-2007 7:51pm

maglite wrote: »

interesting

may i throw a couple of words out there
Crossbow, barrel?
airsoft, serious injury?, could hit your eye
pea shooter, oww my eye, my 5 year old just hit me in the eye wit his

and on the styer, 90 round drum full auto, and 5000 rounds in one sitting

Already covered, there was one important piece missing;

Mellor wrote: »

Two small items.
First, in a firearm the projectile is powered by burning a propellant. Otherwise all sorts would be included. It has no implications here, but if we are going to be tosing definations about, at least we should be accurate.

Add that to the above and it covers a firearm,

bitemybanger · 30-12-2007 8:02pm

My new baby at the back, Tikka 223 lite, Remington 1100 at the front and a 9mm Beretta 92f in between

bunny shooter · 30-12-2007 8:38pm

bitemybanger wrote: »

My new baby at the back, Tikka 223 lite, Remington 1100 at the front and a 9mm Beretta 92f in between

Tikka looks very nice

bitemybanger · 30-12-2007 8:45pm

yes, i really took a shine to this gun in the shop, the threads here helped me make up my mind

Steyr · 31-12-2007 12:53am

bunny shooter wrote: »

My favourite thing was full mag (30) on full auto in one go

We were/are still never ever allowed 30 in the Mag just for safety etc but thats just our CO's decision.

Steyr · 31-12-2007 12:55am

maglite wrote: »

and on the styer, 90 round drum full auto, and 5000 rounds in one sitting

You mean Steyr...Dont you? 5,000rds? your the first one ive ever heard of doing that, did you change barrels? Id love to know more thanks.

bunny shooter · 31-12-2007 12:56am

Steyr wrote: »

We were/are still never ever allowed 30 in the Mag just for safety etc but thats just our CO's decision.

30 or 1 in mag is perfectly safe. It's the fool holding rifle is the problem

Steyr · 31-12-2007 12:57am

maglite wrote: »

may i throw a couple of words out there
Crossbow, barrel?
airsoft, serious injury?

The crossbow can stay in the Archery forum etc

bunny shooter · 31-12-2007 12:59am

maglite wrote: »

and on the styer, 90 round drum full auto, and 5000 rounds in one sitting

Love to know where this comes from :rolleyes:

maglite · 31-12-2007 1:16am

bunny shooter wrote: »

Love to know where this comes from :rolleyes:

holliday on the states, only downsaide was i had to pay for the rounds and the gun rental, a small downside

So why do i need a firearm licence for a cross bow if its not a firearm

bunny shooter · 31-12-2007 1:21am

maglite wrote: »

holliday on the states, only downsaide was i had to pay for the rounds and the gun rental, a small downside

So why do i need a firearm licence for a cross bow if its not a firearm

As far as I know steyr Aug comes with either 30 or 42 round magazine, never heard of a drum with 90 rounds.

You need a licence (same principle as a firearm) for a crossbow in this country.

Remmy · 31-12-2007 10:08am

bunny shooter wrote: »

As far as I know steyr Aug comes with either 30 or 42 round magazine, never heard of a drum with 90 rounds.

.

There's a twin drum beta c mag available for the aug.looks bloody awkward though with the bulllpup design.I believe the rangers have a small amount of them. Ever see them in normal service?

Remmy

peter-pantslez · 31-12-2007 11:29am

Remmy wrote: »

There's a twin drum beta c mag available for the aug.looks bloody awkward though with the bulllpup design.I believe the rangers have a small amount of them. Ever see them in normal service?

Remmy

never seen the in normal service and doubt they ever will be same as the 42 round mag but have seen the drum mags in the hands of the wing.

Steyr · 31-12-2007 5:40pm

ARW and Drum Mags:

bunny shooter · 31-12-2007 6:51pm

That's not Irish army DPM ?

Remmy · 31-12-2007 6:58pm

correct me if im wrong but i think the rangers can wear british DPM's if they want.Not too sure why.

just the pics i was thinking of steyr.nice one!

Remmy · 31-12-2007 9:11pm

dimebag249 wrote: »

Here's my only gun, Remington 870 Express 12 gauge with Chaote 10 round magazine extension.

Nice gun dimebag, was there dimples the end of the magazine tube that you had to dremil out before you could fit that extender?How does it affect the overall balance of the gun fully loaded?

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