Anyone going hunting Stephen's Day?

doctor evil · 22-12-2007 04:46PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

If red-coated fox-hunting was a British tradition, I would have thought it would be frowned upon as much as any other British tradition in Ireland. Must be some picking and choosing going on. Perhaps the participants are involved in some kind of snobbery, where they can pretend that they're lords ands ladies of the manor, when they're dressed up like second-hand tampons on horse-back.

Its French in origin. If some members of the hunt didn`t wear the pink coats would more people be alright with it?, say black or tweed instead. Is it the colour or the whole ensemble that gets people hot under the collar. I mean each there is there for a reason; hard hat (obvious reason), thick hunting jacket (generally wool or part wool) is to keep you warm and stop you getting scraped, the stock (white yoke around the neck) protects the neck, long boots/ gaitors/half chaps/jodphur boots gives you some support and protects your legs. One thing I would like to change is the beige jodphurs, designed to look good on 0% of the population.

doctor evil · 22-12-2007 04:52PM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

depending on the type of hunt. shooting is grand, but the one with dgs where they purposely scare the animals sh*tless then let the dogs tear it to shreds while it still alive all for the sake of entertainment... bleh.

Its torn apart after its killed, generally by the lead hound. It runs because that is what it knows (if we still had wolves they would be running from them!), I doubt it cares about the horses that come after the hounds.

As for those on horses that come after the hounds and hunt staff they are there for the ride and enjoy the uncertainty of the terrain, very few will see if a kill is made. The hunt staff (master, whipper in etc) control the hounds and the field. It really is a tradition as there is all sort of rules about it.

dlofnep · 22-12-2007 04:54PM

It's a barbaric tradition and anyone who takes part in it is a clown and deserves a good kicking.

IRLConor · 22-12-2007 04:55PM

You Suck! wrote: »

worst i ever saw was some idiot try to finish off a deer with a shotgun and **** it up.

I'm pretty sure that's illegal too. To kill deer in Ireland you need a permit, it must be in season and you must use a rifle with a certain minimum power (at least a .22-250 with a 50 grain bullet AFAIK).

Now humanely dispatching a wounded animal is a good idea, but it needs to be done correctly and legally by someone who knows what they're doing.

Nightwish · 22-12-2007 05:15PM

I hate hunting. I remember about 3 years ago I came across a hunt on St Stephens morning. I got out of the car and f*cked them out of it. I called them barbaric evil pricks. Got myself worked up into a bit of a state over it. Its something I feel strongly about. You've got to be pretty twisted to frighten, hunt down and murder animals in the name of "tradition" and entertainment.

doctor evil · 22-12-2007 05:20PM

"frighten, hunt down and murder animals "

Do your self a favour and stop anthromorphising. I take it you don`t eat meat or any animal derived products.

Pherekydes · 22-12-2007 05:26PM

Dudess wrote: »

But hunting?

It's great fun. Be a fox for a day, 'tis great sport altogether. Didn't you ever play chasing as a kid? It's something similar, except you don't ever get caught.

dlofnep · 22-12-2007 05:29PM

Nightwish wrote: »

I hate hunting. I remember about 3 years ago I came across a hunt on St Stephens morning. I got out of the car and f*cked them out of it. I called them barbaric evil pricks. Got myself worked up into a bit of a state over it. Its something I feel strongly about. You've got to be pretty twisted to frighten, hunt down and murder animals in the name of "tradition" and entertainment.

Agreed.

dlofnep · 22-12-2007 05:29PM

doctor evil wrote: »

"frighten, hunt down and murder animals "

Do your self a favour and stop anthromorphising. I take it you don`t eat meat or any animal derived products.

There is a difference between hunting for food and hunting for the sheer sport of it. I'd expect a sensical person to be able to tell the difference.

PeakOutput · 22-12-2007 05:37PM

dlofnep wrote: »

I'd expect a sensical person to be able to tell the difference.

so you have no problem with killing of animals then just a problem with killing them and not eating them?

i dont understand why they cant realease the fox and then follow its trial after its been captured or follow a fake trail or something thats why i dont agree with fox hunting.

hare coursing im undecided about

hunting game with guns i have no problem with and would love to taste some fresh game tbh

Zaph · 22-12-2007 05:39PM

There's a hunt near where I'm originally from in south county Dublin. It's hard to object too much to their activities these days because they converted from a live hunt to a drag hunt quite a few years ago. What's not difficult to object to though are the people in the hunt. They congregate in the pub in the village afterwards and somehow manage to p*ss off just about every other person in the pub within minutes of their arrival. They're almost exclusively arrogant, obnoxious, toffee-nosed twits who seem to think that due to their social standing (i.e. loaded mummy and daddy who left/will leave them a packet in their wills) they have the right to discount everyone outside of their circle as being beneath them. They quite literally bully people out of their seats and are incredibly rude to the bar staff. It's only a few days a year and is good business for the pub, so they put up with it. Personally if I owned the pub I'd tell them to feck off somewhere else.

ANXIOUS · 22-12-2007 05:39PM

Never gone but ive always wanted to go shooting never got around to it. I belive in most cases It is no we're near as inhumane as the way most meat is reared these days for human consumption. Man difference is that it is done behind doors. Where as hunting is in the public eye. But i respect peoples opipions on the matter.

dlofnep · 22-12-2007 05:40PM

PeakOutput wrote: »

so you have no problem with killing of animals then just a problem with killing them and not eating them?

That's precisely my opinion on it. Killing so we can eat is natural instinct.. There is a cause... Reason.. Logic. But killing for fun? You're seriously not trying to tell me they both are the same thing are you?

TheBigLebowski · 22-12-2007 05:41PM

This thread should be moved to the hunting forum for the barbarians to discuss. Where's the modificators?

PeakOutput · 22-12-2007 05:45PM

dlofnep wrote: »

That's precisely my opinion on it. Killing so we can eat is natural instinct.. There is a cause... Reason.. Logic. But killing for fun? You're seriously not trying to tell me they both are the same thing are you?

no i just wanted to make sure.....i agree with you as long as you agree that HUNTING for food is ok aswell as just mass producing of livestock and killing it

edit; not particularly directed at dlofnep but what about killing for clothes i dont have a particular problem with that either

dlofnep · 22-12-2007 05:46PM

PeakOutput wrote: »

no i just wanted to make sure.....i agree with you as long as you agree that HUNTING for food is ok aswell as just mass producing of livestock and killing it

Oh alright.. Pardon my defensive nature.. 3 hours sleep! Bit sketchy.

Yes, to kill for food is fine. I wouldn't be able to kill a cow or pig or whatever myself.. I'm a little wuss when it comes to things like that, I'd have nightmares afterwards I htink.

nesf · 22-12-2007 05:54PM

Dudess wrote: »

I'm not posting this to the Hunting forum because I think it merits general discussion.

I disagree.

Take it to shooting, humanities, equestrian or wherever.

Anyone going hunting Stephen's Day?

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