Why are we given a BA?

toots_old · 07-12-2007 02:18PM #1

Why are Science graduates given a BA and not a BSc in Trinity? we're concerned because apparently a BSc looks better, and we do more lab work than alot of other universities!

Time Magazine · 07-12-2007 02:20PM

Welcome to a four-hundred year old university.

Dick Turnip · 07-12-2007 02:21PM

check this link and go to section re uk & ire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts

uglyjohn · 07-12-2007 02:22PM

are you sure about this? my sister did computer science and she got a BSc. anyway whatever the your degree is called is fairly irrelevant. you studied science in trinners. who cares about the name? a degree from trinity looks better anyway.

EGaffney · 07-12-2007 02:40PM

All standard four-year courses involve a BA at the end, it's tradition. Employers know that a BA (Dubl.) is functionally identical to a hypothetical BSc (Dubl.). For diplomatic reasons, I will reserve comment on its merits vis-a-vis a BSc (NUI).

europerson · 07-12-2007 02:47PM

If you don't like, you ought to have attended a college of a modern university, which would probably award Scientiæ Baccalaureus degrees to graduates in fields such as science. There are BSc degrees awarded in the University of Dublin, but they are usually only for evening courses.

Dermo · 07-12-2007 02:48PM

uglyjohn wrote: »

are you sure about this? my sister did computer science and she got a BSc. anyway whatever the your degree is called is fairly irrelevant. you studied science in trinners. who cares about the name? a degree from trinity looks better anyway.

night students of computer science get a BSc.
Full Time students get a BA(Mod) which is accredited by the engineers guild of ireland.

uglyjohn · 07-12-2007 02:51PM

oops, my mistake. she was a full time student, i probably just remembered wrong.

i got a b.a.i. (engineering) and they threw in a b.a. for sh*ts and giggles.

godtabh · 07-12-2007 03:09PM

uglyjohn wrote: »

i got a b.a.i. (engineering) and they threw in a b.a. for sh*ts and giggles.

No they didnt

xebec · 07-12-2007 03:39PM

As someone already mentioned, the reason we are awarded BAs is that we attend an old university. The BA (Mod) is the equivalent of BA (Hons) at other universities. I remember seeing a definition somewhere that a moderatorship is an honours degree awarded by the University of Dublin, so I guess it has some status and differentiation attributes too.

ApeXaviour · 07-12-2007 03:45PM

I think it's funny, and a good conversation piece that I've a BA in Physics.

shay_562 · 08-12-2007 10:18PM

xebec wrote:

As someone already mentioned, the reason we are awarded BAs is that we attend an old university.

But what about the Bbs they give you if you study BESS and take pure business?

Time Magazine · 09-12-2007 03:37PM

That's because "BESS" is actually called Economic and Social Studies. Initially, there was no Business component. You can lump in Business + A.N. Other into the B.A. job, but the University regulations got complicated when an ESS degree with no E, S or S was sought.

paperclip · 09-12-2007 08:08PM

We get a B.Sc (Pharmacy). I wonder if that's because it's a relatively new course....?

EGaffney · 09-12-2007 10:59PM

It is a vocational course. Vocational courses are given non-BA degrees. (Like law.)

Mark200 · 11-12-2007 05:56PM

What's the difference between BA and BSc?

Isn't there just a new system where you just say "level 8" or something like that?

DublinWriter · 11-12-2007 07:00PM

toots wrote: »

Why are Science graduates given a BA and not a BSc in Trinity?

Who cares. Stay alive for three years and claim your free MA.

EGaffney · 11-12-2007 07:16PM

Mark200 wrote: »

What's the difference between BA and BSc?

Isn't there just a new system where you just say "level 8" or something like that?

Baccalaureus Artium and Baccalaureus Scientiae. They are both just titles, there is no difference really. The coursework matters more than the name.

There is a new system, but doesn't it seem so dehumanising and... well... European Union-esque?

11-12-2007 08:37PM

Mark200 wrote: »

What's the difference between BA and BSc?

Isn't there just a new system where you just say "level 8" or something like that?

europerson · 11-12-2007 09:52PM

You just love showing that off, don't you, Myth?

11-12-2007 10:03PM

...just in case you didn't get it first time.

12-12-2007 01:53PM

DublinWriter wrote: »

Who cares. Stay alive for three years and claim your free MA.

Just something I remember being told... if you do this and then do a masters, and try to claim taxback on the masters, you won't be able to. So perhaps wait to get your MA when you have a masters/PhD under your belt.

Worth checking out the (now) official line on this, of course.

doonothing · 12-12-2007 02:40PM

Jesus. And I'm getting a B.Sc. in Multimedia!

DublinWriter · 12-12-2007 07:14PM

Myth wrote: »

Just something I remember being told... if you do this and then do a masters, and try to claim taxback on the masters, you won't be able to. So perhaps wait to get your MA when you have a masters/PhD under your belt.

Nope, sounds like complete BS to me, give the Proctor's Office a call.

12-12-2007 07:35PM

Try an accountant.. I can see the logic in what Myth is saying.

Istrancis · 28-03-2008 02:28AM

Myth wrote: »

...just in case you didn't get it first time.

Has anyone got any idea what the difference between a level four Leaving Cert. and a level 5 Leaving Cert. is? It's something that I've been wondering about since I saw this poster at school.

Thanks in advance!

ApeXaviour · 28-03-2008 03:47AM

I'm guessing the reason there is a division is due to the leaving cert applied program. It's a step up from the Junior Cert, but doesn't qualify one for higher level education.

PHB · 28-03-2008 11:27AM

Myth wrote: »

Just something I remember being told... if you do this and then do a masters, and try to claim taxback on the masters, you won't be able to.

Does this work if it was a foreign postgrad?

paperclip · 28-03-2008 11:45AM

level 4=5th year
Level 5=6th year?

That's what I always thought, anyway.

28-03-2008 12:55PM

PHB wrote: »

Does this work if it was a foreign postgrad?

No idea - ask revenue!

sunnyjim · 28-03-2008 03:12PM

toots wrote: »

...and we do more lab work than alot of other universities!

Source?

Why are we given a BA?

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