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  • #32
    connundrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    daithifleming wrote: »
    Where exactly?

    Outside of the pale.

    Yeah I've heard that E is on the way back. Wasn't there a story recently about a 12 year old in the UK who took E and then went out on a motorway to play chicken with the traffic. Evidently the kid lost.


  • #33
    Tha Gopher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    daithifleming wrote: »
    Where exactly?

    Cavan for one example. I dont touch the stuff myself (because its sh1te), but any time Ive been down lately, even in small town pubs the amount of people coming out of the jacks itching their noses has shot upward. Its all over the place. Back when it was big in Dublin 2 years ago, getting it down the sticks was an unreliable hit and miss situation, pills were plentiful but coke wasnt.

    I have a theory that Ireland imports just about enough to satisfy Dublin/Cork/Limerick demand. Thats why there was so little down the country, Dubs and other town lads were using all of it. Now, the same Dublin based criminals ae importing the same amounts but, unable to shift near as much as they used to in Dublin itself, are just sending a bigger portion of it down the country. If truth be told, big time criminals dont like selling ecstasy. It doesnt have the same profit margin as it did in the early 90s. But if they are importing coke they are having trouble getting shifted, they revert back to ecstasy. Its less profitable, but money is money.

    The fact a few people in this thread have agreed that its going out of fashion in Dublin, and yokes are back, makes me wonder where the newspapers get half of the guff they print on the matter.


  • #34
    bandit197
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    connundrum wrote: »
    Outside of the pale.

    Yeah I've heard that E is on the way back. Wasn't there a story recently about a 12 year old in the UK who took E and then went out on a motorway to play chicken with the traffic. Evidently the kid lost.

    Did that really happen? Its like people taking acid and jumping out windows a couple of stories up. Ffs, if you think you can fly take off from the ground.


  • #35
    Tha Gopher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    bandit197 wrote: »
    Did that really happen? Its like people taking acid and jumping out windows a couple of stories up. Ffs, if you think you can fly take off from the ground.

    Wow! A Bill Hicks bit in a drugs thread on AH. Who woulda thunk it.:rolleyes:


  • #36
    Degsy
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    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    Cavan for one example. I dont touch the stuff myself (because its sh1te), but any time Ive been down lately, even in small town pubs the amount of people coming out of the jacks itching their noses has shot upward. Its all over the place. Back when it was big in Dublin 2 years ago, getting it down the sticks was an unreliable hit and miss situation, pills were plentiful but coke wasnt.

    I have a theory that Ireland imports just about enough to satisfy Dublin/Cork/Limerick demand. Thats why there was so little down the country, Dubs and other town lads were using all of it. Now, the same Dublin based criminals ae importing the same amounts but, unable to shift near as much as they used to in Dublin itself, are just sending a bigger portion of it down the country. If truth be told, big time criminals dont like selling ecstasy. It doesnt have the same profit margin as it did in the early 90s. But if they are importing coke they are having trouble getting shifted, they revert back to ecstasy. Its less profitable, but money is money.

    The fact a few people in this thread have agreed that its going out of fashion in Dublin, and yokes are back, makes me wonder where the newspapers get half of the guff they print on the matter.

    thats probably true.About five or six years ago when coke was established as the Dublin drug of choice,E virtually vanished from the Dublin market and hash became extremely hard to come by.Longford,on the other hand was awash with chepa Es and everybody could get hash,coke on the other hand was very hard to get indeed.


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  • #37
    Tha Gopher
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    connundrum wrote: »
    /rings Interpol

    'Yeah eh.. its a lad named Pedro, and eh.. he's in Madrid right!'

    Apart from the possible need for Irish people to triple the amount of stuff taken to reach the same high due to the poor quality of stuff sourced here, I firmly believe that Irish people would take triple the amount anyway - even if the stuff was of the same quality as that sourced in the US or Europe.

    We're a nation of over indulgers - see case studies: a) drink b) houses c) cars d) food (fast becoming one of the most obese nations in the EU).


    Possibly. Some people seem to view ecstasy, for example, as a test of endurance by seeing how many they can take without collapsing, even though a smaller amount would give them the required high.


  • #38
    Ekancone
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    Degsy wrote: »
    thats probably true.About five or six years ago when coke was established as the Dublin drug of choice,E virtually vanished from the Dublin market and hash became extremely hard to come by.Longford,on the other hand was awash with chepa Es and everybody could get hash,coke on the other hand was very hard to get indeed.

    Bit of negative corrleation there, got a scatterplot?


  • #39
    Degsy
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    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    Possibly. Some people seem to view ecstasy, for example, as a test of endurance by seeing how many they can take without collapsing, even though a smaller amount would give them the required high.


    True,i've been out with people who've necked 25 yokes in a night out.What the hell is the point?


  • #40
    fits
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    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    Possibly. Some people seem to view ecstasy, for example, as a test of endurance by seeing how many they can take without collapsing, even though a smaller amount would give them the required high.
    Degsy wrote: »
    True,i've been out with people who've necked 25 yokes in a night out.What the hell is the point?


    I think they're chasing the buzz they used to get when they first started taking it.

    From wikipedia
    One theory of SERT-depletion arising out of long-term MDMA use is receptor down-regulation which is one form of synaptic plasticity. When any neurotransmitter is present in excess for prolonged periods of time, the brain responds in an attempt to reestablish its own natural neuro-electrical balance. Weekly use of MDMA over a prolonged period may actually cause serotonin receptors to retreat into the dendrite of serotonin nerve cells,[35] in addition to enticing serotonin cells lower its own SERT count.[clarify] The change in synaptic serotonin concentration due to recreational MDMA use is at the extreme end of what is even possible in the brain and therefore, down-regulation could occur fairly easily with regular use.[citation needed]

    This process causes the brain to become desensitized to the neurotransmitters present in the synapses and therefore also to the effects of MDMA itself. Therefore, in addition to a generally decreased quality of mood between doses, greater amounts of MDMA are required to achieve the same level of desired effects. It is this cycle that is often believed to be the cause of long-term emotional problems among regular ecstasy users

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  • #41
    Degsy
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    daithifleming wrote: »
    Bit of negative corrleation there, got a scatterplot?

    The coke made the most money and Dublin was the biggest market.Coke,E's and hash dont really mix too well,Es and hash do though so they sell the most profitable drug in the area with the most consumers and sell the rest to the smaller market.Or something..


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  • #42
    Tha Gopher
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    fits wrote: »
    I think they're chasing the buzz they used to get when they first started taking it.

    From wikipedia

    A bit of both tbh. For some its true, for others they take 8 when 3 would have given them what they needed.


  • #43
    fits
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    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    A bit of both tbh. For some its true, for others they take 8 when 3 would have given them what they needed.

    yeah probably.

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  • #44
    Mr. CooL ICE
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    I don't use coke, but I have really only noticed its usage within the last few months (Limerick and north Cork).




    Maybe I was only innocent...


  • #45
    drdre
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭drdre


    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    SHUSH!!! :eek:

    No names dammit! Use your loaf though man, its not the pope they are taking about :rolleyes:

    I have changed my post :)


  • #46
    SubjectSean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭SubjectSean


    Myth wrote: »
    http://rte.ie/news/2007/1204/waterford.htm
    Quote:
    Gardaí believe that along with more than a dozen others, they had eaten some damp cocaine.


    Nobody told our sherlocks you can't eat powder without it getting damp.

    Coke-heads suck. As always the deaths happened because of our stupid "war on drugs" that we can't win. Time for a more sophisticated solution IMHO


  • #47
    SpAcEd OuT
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    Degsy wrote: »
    You havnt a clue do you?bet you've never got pure coke in your life..ergo you dont know what the **** you're taking,or what the **** you're talking about.

    lol and I suppose you've gotten pure cocaine

    Are you a Colombian drug trafficker by any chance because no cocaine is in anyway pure after it leaves the plantation in Colombia

    you clearly don't know what your talking about


  • #48
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Degsy wrote: »
    Alcohol may well be a bad thing when used to excess but at least there are governmental controls on purity and quality.If you go into a pub and order a vodka you're not getting a hit of methylated spirits mixed in somebody's shed.The fact about cocaine is that almost nobody in this country has ever had it in a pure or almost pure state,the stuff here is cut to bits with alls sorts of garbage and in thier addled state users compare one bad batch to another and know no different.It amazes me how many people use coke and would turn thier noses up at heroin,you can inject pure heroin every day for twenty years and the worst that would happen is possible constipation,providing your needles are clean.Coke wears your organs out from the inside,likewise amphetamine and serious amphetamine users dont live long!

    thats it exactly, when alcohol was illegal in the states during prohibation in the 1920s i am sure people were dying or getting violently sick drinking small amounts of god knows what, mixed up in someones bathtub


  • #49
    ella minnow pea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭ella minnow pea


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Take drugs and you are only playing with fire. I have no sympathy for anyone ****ed up after drugs.

    seconded


  • #50
    latenia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭latenia


    bandit197 wrote: »
    Did that really happen? Its like people taking acid and jumping out windows a couple of stories up. Ffs, if you think you can fly take off from the ground.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2218526,00.html

    It's true that pills are more popular again; people have realised that they're more fun for a fraction of the cost.


  • #51
    Tha Gopher
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    LordChessington wrote: »
    I don't use coke, but I have really only noticed its usage within the last few months (Limerick and north Cork).




    Maybe I was only innocent...


    Nope, just a re distribution of supply. People in Limerick city and Cork city cant be arsed after having used it for the past 4 odd years continously. The crims are simply replacing the market.

    Have known a few people who would do coke put not pills, they seem to view it as more dangerous. Personally, someone sitting down and shovelling a huge amount of white powder up their nose in a short time looks more dangerous than swallowing a yoke but anyway.


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  • #52
    SpAcEd OuT
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    Oh and I honestly don't get this everyone acts like a prick on cocaine thing, over the years I have seen so many people on cocaine and not once did they act like a prick. During that same time I have seen hundreds of people act like a prick on alcohol.

    I love how people pretend they know what they're talking about when they chime in with ''YEAH EVERYONES A PRICK ON COKE'' when clearly they have just read the paper and are regurgetating common myths to look knowledgable


  • #53
    builttospill
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    let's embrace alcohol more.... that's legal and never killed anyone...

    Are you taking the piss? Alcohol along with cigarettes is the biggest killer of all-way ahead of any other drug.


  • #54
    SpAcEd OuT
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    builttospill wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss? Alcohol along with cigarettes is the biggest killer of all-way ahead of any other drug.

    Dont be ridiculous


  • #55
    fits
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    builttospill wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss? Alcohol along with cigarettes is the biggest killer of all-way ahead of any other drug.

    I think you need to upgrade your sarcasm detector ;)

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  • #56
    zuchum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭zuchum


    I constantly hear all this talk in the papers/tv about how young people in Dublin are shovelling coke into them like sugar. Maybe i'm just too young (19) but none of my friends or even people in my year would ever consider taking it, and neither have I ever really seen anyone taking it (apart from once,at a debs when my girlfriend met someone in her year,who had regretted taking it,and was trying to blow it out her nose...which was pretty funny).

    But the use seems sporadic at best...otherwise I'm just hanging around with the wrong (right) people...


    Is this a case of the 'african killer bees' where the media complete overestimate the cocaine 'epidemic'?


  • #57
    Lands Leaving
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    builttospill wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss? Alcohol along with cigarettes is the biggest killer of all-way ahead of any other drug.

    Thats because most people drink, half of people smoke and everybody dies.


  • #58
    SpAcEd OuT
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    Lands Leaving wrote: »
    Thats because most people drink, half of people smoke and everybody dies.

    actually per person alcohol and ciggarettes still kill more people than all other illegal drugs combined


  • #59
    Tha Gopher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    zuchum wrote: »
    I constantly hear all this talk in the papers/tv about how young people in Dublin are shovelling coke into them like sugar. Maybe i'm just too young (19) but none of my friends or even people in my year would ever consider taking it, and neither have I ever really seen anyone taking it (apart from once,at a debs when my girlfriend met someone in her year,who had regretted taking it,and was trying to blow it out her nose...which was pretty funny).

    But the use seems sporadic at best...otherwise I'm just hanging around with the wrong (right) people...


    Is this a case of the 'african killer bees' where the media complete overestimate the cocaine 'epidemic'?

    Where are you from out of curiousity?

    It had been epidemic in the likes of Blanch and Finglas. Have yet to see your typical D4 type girl taking any, and Ive been to quite a few parties in that end of town. Most D4 girls Ive met would be liable to throw you out if you took it at their house. Compare that to the northside, in 2005 a guy knee deep in the stuff could probably get alot of girls to do anything for a bit of it free. Any D4 heads I met who took it were into their dance music, rather than the pints of heino and horse riding set the media obsesses about.


  • #60
    Dave!
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    It's the TD's takin it! Do you never watch the live stream from the Dail chamber? It's almost as bad as the mods' forum for hookers and coke! :eek:


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  • #61
    builttospill
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    fits wrote: »
    I think you need to upgrade your sarcasm detector ;)

    I don't think that's the case. You'd be surprised at the amount of idiots that think alcohol is safe as houses. You just can't tell these days. You need to downgrade your smart arse meter ;)


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