Bad Cocaine

Degsy · 04-12-2007 06:16PM #1

It looks like cocaine is finally starting to kill people in this country.There's one guy from waterford and possibly somebody else with quite a high profile.I reckon the stuff is overpriced muck that turns people into insufferable pricks but it looks like its taken a more sinister turn.It could be the time to leave the stuff alone.

whiskeyman · 04-12-2007 06:17PM

let's embrace alcohol more.... that's legal and never killed anyone...

ShawnRaven · 04-12-2007 06:18PM

And it took the media coverage to tell you this? Words fail me!
VR!

Ekancone · 04-12-2007 06:19PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

let's embrace alcohol more.... that's legal and never killed anyone...

Agreed, and alcohol doesnt turn people into insufferable pricks either.

halfinch · 04-12-2007 06:20PM

People on it blow the head off ya for hours....shur u can do that with a few drinks what the point?

seamus · 04-12-2007 06:20PM

It really depends on a number of factors. There's far too much speculation on it, but if a number of death are attributed to coke in a short period of time, it's likely that the market has been flooded with something pretty vicious. Everyone gets their coke from the same scumbags, so a bad batch would hit a lot of coke users.

cornbb · 04-12-2007 06:22PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

let's embrace alcohol more.... that's legal and never killed anyone...

daithifleming wrote: »

Agreed, and alcohol doesnt turn people into insufferable pricks either.

Comparing coke/dope/whatever to alcohol is the lamest argument ever. He didn't say alcohol is ok now, did he? Start a thread on how shite alcohol is, if you think its so awful, if you're meaning to insinuate that coke is great then please, tell us all about it.

whiskeyman · 04-12-2007 06:24PM

cornbb wrote: »

Comparing coke/dope/whatever to alcohol is the lamest argument ever. He didn't say alcohol is ok now, did he? Start a thread on how shite alcohol is, if you think its so awful, if you're meaning to insinuate that coke is great then please, tell us all about it.

jaysus, who flushed your stash?

WindSock · 04-12-2007 06:26PM

Did anyone report what actually killed and hospitalised those people in Waterford? What was it in the coke I wonder, or are they just saying drugs are badd, mmmkay?

cornbb · 04-12-2007 06:26PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

jaysus, who flushed your stash?

I'd use the rolleyes smilie here if I didn't abhor it so much.

I've never taken the stuff in my life.

04-12-2007 06:28PM

WindSock wrote: »

Did anyone report what actually killed and hospitalised those people in Waterford? What was it in the coke I wonder, or are they just saying drugs are badd, mmmkay?

http://rte.ie/news/2007/1204/waterford.htm

Gardaí believe that along with more than a dozen others, they had eaten some damp cocaine.

ghostdancer · 04-12-2007 06:29PM

eh, the lads in waterford ate loads of it for some mad reason. of course that was going to make them seriously ill.

i haven't heard of anyone dying from cocaine use to be honest.

Degsy · 04-12-2007 06:33PM

Alcohol may well be a bad thing when used to excess but at least there are governmental controls on purity and quality.If you go into a pub and order a vodka you're not getting a hit of methylated spirits mixed in somebody's shed.The fact about cocaine is that almost nobody in this country has ever had it in a pure or almost pure state,the stuff here is cut to bits with alls sorts of garbage and in thier addled state users compare one bad batch to another and know no different.It amazes me how many people use coke and would turn thier noses up at heroin,you can inject pure heroin every day for twenty years and the worst that would happen is possible constipation,providing your needles are clean.Coke wears your organs out from the inside,likewise amphetamine and serious amphetamine users dont live long!

Santa Claus · 04-12-2007 06:36PM

ghostdancer wrote: »

i haven't heard of anyone dying from cocaine use to be honest.

You haven't heard a lot so have you ?

People die all the time from cocaine. Not necessarily from the drug itself but from all the crap that it's cut with etc !

Trojan911 · 04-12-2007 06:36PM

Degsy wrote: »

It looks like cocaine is finally starting to kill people in this country.There's one guy from waterford and possibly somebody else with quite a high profile.I reckon the stuff is overpriced muck that turns people into insufferable pricks but it looks like its taken a more sinister turn.It could be the time to leave the stuff alone.

Shock, horror :eek:

Words of wisdom, you can't beat them...... :rolleyes:

mox54 · 04-12-2007 06:40PM

Coke is for dopes, xcuse the pun!!, wait till they start smokin the stuff!!:cool:

Ekancone · 04-12-2007 06:45PM

cornbb wrote: »

Comparing coke/dope/whatever to alcohol is the lamest argument ever. He didn't say alcohol is ok now, did he? Start a thread on how shite alcohol is, if you think its so awful, if you're meaning to insinuate that coke is great then please, tell us all about it.

I assume he drinks, and given his basis for hating cocaine, that would make him a hypocrite.

Degsy · 04-12-2007 06:50PM

daithifleming wrote: »

I assume he drinks, and given his basis for hating cocaine, that would make him a hypocrite.

Didnt say i hated cocaine did i?I said it turns people into complete arseholes and now its graduated to killing people..Young people.Sure i like a drink but i've been around long enough to realise that some drugs make you more sociable,more relaxed,more humerous and more happy and cocaine doesnt.

Overheal · 04-12-2007 06:54PM

This can sometimes be put squarely on the Ultra Conservatives....

for example there was that contaminated strain of Marijuana that circulated around the UK that was full of Glass Dust - anyone smoking that can now expect to get lung complications as the years go on.

Theres plenty of humane ways to fight you War on Drugs you bastards - don't resort to this.

I have a suspicion some vigilante decided they would remove the userbase by contaminating them. Y'know, theres a reason you can go ask for needles from a doctors office/hospital no questions asked - cos we aren't meant to be that sick that we'd rather see them all rot away from HIV.

connundrum · 04-12-2007 06:55PM

What I find is that there is a difference between coke and drink, in that people have had drink as part of society for ages and it isn't big news. Coke is comparably brand new, and people feel the need to show off when they've taken it. This is the part of drug taking that I hate, the showing off bit. Gerra life.

Oh and everything is bad for you when you don't read the instructions. The amount of people who've died from trying to snort a sherbert (+/-) = the amount of people who've died from eating cocain.

Tha Gopher · 04-12-2007 07:00PM

Probably a good time to point out for legal reasons a certain name shouldnt be mentioned here regarding this (even though one tabloid reported it as "a suspected cocaine overdose". They were informed that it was suspected by who exactly? Certainly not the hospital in any official channel)

Id reckon in Ireland its higher risk than elsewhere. Take the US or Spain, people get their one`er bag for the same price if not cheaper. That bag does them for a while, as the stuff is so pure and produces immediate effect.

Compare it to here. Stuff is cut with god knows what, and people have to take maybe 3 times more powder to get the same affect as Pedro in Madrid with his one bag.

Degsy · 04-12-2007 07:02PM

connundrum wrote: »

What I find is that there is a difference between coke and drink, in that people have had drink as part of society for ages and it isn't big news. Coke is comparably brand new, and people feel the need to show off when they've taken it. This is the part of drug taking that I hate, the showing off bit. Gerra life.

Oh and everything is bad for you when you don't read the instructions. The amount of people who've died from trying to snort a sherbert (+/-) = the amount of people who've died from eating cocain.

The showing off bit does my head in.A bunch of people i used to hang out with were cocaine fiends,they'd be going to restaurants,ordering expensive meals and then being unable to eat it because they were coked out of it.When they were out (or in) doing the stuff its all they talked about,often wasting 600 quid in a night.They'd be afraid to let each other out of the room in case they were gonna have a sneaky snort..like that scene in the simpsons with the rare comic.They were allways convinced the coke was either shiite or brilliant but hoovered it up no matter what.I have never in all my life heard such bullshiit out of people as i did from that little group,coke this coke that and one of them ended up in Loman's because of the paranoia the stuff gave him.The point is anyway,they all had "good" jobs,went to the "in" places and did coke because it was the "done" thing.If ever there was a pathetic reason for doing drugs then that was it.

DeVore · 04-12-2007 07:04PM

Its hard to find anyone who has died from drink using it for the first time or not intending to abuse it. Its not like you are in danger of drowning now are you. Unfortunately thats not true for coke.

Also, from personal experience everyone I know who did coke (quite a number) turned into insufferable pr*cks for the duration.

DeV.

04-12-2007 07:06PM

ghostdancer wrote: »

eh, the lads in waterford ate loads of it for some mad reason. of course that was going to make them seriously ill.

i haven't heard of anyone dying from cocaine use to be honest.

The reason they ate it is quoted above. It was damp. If you leave coke/speed/whatever out in the open, especially in a warm, humid environment it gets kind of clammy and is hard to chop up into lines. It's also next to impossible to snort because it sticks to gether and gets clogged in the note or whatever you use to snort it with.

These lads decided to 'bomb' it (wrap it up in a rizla and eat it), and this is a much slower way of taking any drug as it doesn't affect you instantly. People think "well I feel grand, in fact I'm not even out-of-it yet, so i'll do some more" and obviously they did too much and it was already too late when they realised their collective mistake.

Santa Claus wrote: »

People die all the time from cocaine. Not necessarily from the drug itself but from all the crap that it's cut with etc !

Cocaine deaths are very few and far between**. In the current climate of media-frenzies relating to any particular drugs, especially cocaine, I honestly cannot recall one instance of somebody dying from a) an overdose or b) "bad" coke in the past maybe 12 months. I'd love to be proven wrong, and suspect I will, but I honestly cannot think of one.

I tried googling 'cocaine related deaths in Ireland but couldn't find anything conclusive.

I am in no way condoning drug use of any kind (coke is crap for an awful lot of reasons), but sweeping statements like "People die all the time from cocaine" and "everyone gets their coke from the same scumbags" is just ill-informed drivel and serves no purpose.

**I'm talking about directly as a result of ingesting the drub somehow.

Dave! · 04-12-2007 07:07PM

This is what happens when there's no quality checks done on a substance.

Remove the quality checks from sudocream and you'll have any c*nt selling it, and a bunch of people going around with fire shooting out their arses.

Now how would one take control of the recreational drug market, and impose regulations and health and safety checks on distributors?

Why, I haven't a bloody notion.................

connundrum · 04-12-2007 07:09PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Compare it to here. Stuff is cut with god knows what, and people have to take maybe 3 times more powder to get the same affect as Pedro in Madrid with his one bag.

/rings Interpol

'Yeah eh.. its a lad named Pedro, and eh.. he's in Madrid right!'

Apart from the possible need for Irish people to triple the amount of stuff taken to reach the same high due to the poor quality of stuff sourced here, I firmly believe that Irish people would take triple the amount anyway - even if the stuff was of the same quality as that sourced in the US or Europe.

We're a nation of over indulgers - see case studies: a) drink b) houses c) cars d) food (fast becoming one of the most obese nations in the EU).

Tha Gopher · 04-12-2007 07:10PM

I wonder will this kill off the trade, all this bad publicity. In the US, a basketball player, Len Bias, died in the mid 80s from an overdose, and usage among the young declined drastically after hitting huge highs in the late 70s/early 80s. In truth coke has been on the decline in Dublin this year, despite what out of touch rags like the sunday indo may think. 2 years ago it would be hard to go to a house party where nobody was using. Fast forward to 2007, I havent even seen the stuff infront of my eyes since about May. Ecstasy is making somewhat of a comeback. However down the country cocaine has exploded.

Ekancone · 04-12-2007 07:13PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

I wonder will this kill off the trade, all this bad publicity. In the US, a basketball player, Len Bias, died in the mid 80s from an overdose, and usage among the young declined drastically after hitting huge highs in the late 70s/early 80s. In truth coke has been on the decline in Dublin this year, despite what out of touch rags like the sunday indo may think. 2 years ago it would be hard to go to a house party where nobody was using. Fast forward to 2007, I havent even seen the stuff infront of my eyes since about May. Ecstasy is making somewhat of a comeback. However down the country cocaine has exploded.

Where exactly?

Irishpimpdude · 04-12-2007 07:13PM

I think its because people are eating it instead of putting it up there nostrils, ive heard story's of people being dared to eat a tablespoon and they can have it free... Then they end up in a coma or worse, dead...

fits · 04-12-2007 07:13PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

I wonder will this kill off the trade, .

It will definitely damage it... I said before that I think coke is going out of fashion anyway.
In my opinion, use peaked about two years ago in clubbing circles.

Mossy Monk · 04-12-2007 07:14PM

Take drugs and you are only playing with fire. I have no sympathy for anyone ****ed up after drugs.

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