RTE panel discussing corruption on Wednesday's CL

Jazzy · 03-12-2007 12:45AM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

So basically your gripe is that he disagrees with your barstool analyisis? :rolleyes:

no...
that hes a "journalist" who consistently gets his facts wrong and gives opinions laced with his own natural bias. that and also the fact that he does have his own agenda in promoting his column in which ever red top rag hes writing for these days.

did u listen to that yeah? hear what im saying there? nice and clear for ya?

you still havent answered this btw:

Jazzy wrote:

you still havent tackled the fact that the RTE consistently don't get things right and generally just talk for the sake of talking... and to sell what ever red top they write in.

remember the ads in 2006 on the telly with Dunphy going "wanna know wat i really think about the england team? read it only in the star"
ur saying that that is the kind of guy to give his pro opinion on our national broadcaster and get paid with our money?

can u answer that? do you want to try even?
or are do u just wanna dodge that one again and say i sit on barstools yapping before rolling ur ever smugger eyes.

and yes it does have a lot to do with the current debate in the thread, or does dunphy work for RTE and is he not one of their main panellists?

edit - oh, and also the fact that he gets paid with our money by the National Broadcaster to do it. back to my barstool tho. hope ur eyes dont roll out after reading this.... thats what happens to mine when i cant put up an arguement

OhNoYouDidn't · 03-12-2007 12:59AM

Jazzy wrote: »

no...
that hes a "journalist" who consistently gets his facts wrong and gives opinions laced with his own natural bias.

opinions laced with his own natural bias?

as opposed to what other type of opinion?

He is there to give his opinion, that is why its called being a pundit.

What facts has he actually gotten wrong, other than names?

Jazzy wrote: »

does have his own agenda in promoting his column in which ever red top rag hes writing for these days.

He was a journo long before he became a pundit. In fact it was his columns that got him the RTE gig. Thats what he does.

Giles and in particular Brady can read a game. Dunphy is there for colour. If you want bland, banal marketing dressed up as commentary, stick to sky.

Other than a few Ole's who don't like some comment Dunphy made about their club (and believe me as a Rovers fan I have real and actual issues with this man) their commentary is massively successful and accesed millions of times on the RTE webtsite from all over the world.

gustavo · 03-12-2007 05:15PM

irish-stew wrote: »

i think the reason why they get away with it is due to the fact its NOT telivised in the UK, they are esentily talking about 'foregin' teams in a 'foregin' country, so there is no place for bias

Why do you have foreign in quotes?

PHB · 03-12-2007 06:47PM

He doesn't actually have an opinion. I bet you any amount of money that if Ronaldo was hated by the English press, constantly slated, Dunphy would defend him to the last man. He is just saying whatever he can to stay on the air, and it works. I personally can't stand it, and much prefer people who have actual opinions, even if they are banal.

Take Ian Wright for example, he actually says what he thinks, to the extent that he said Beckham should play against Croatia ahead of his own son. Compare that with Dunphy who would defend Keane as a player until the ends of the earth, no matter what he did.

Brethitmanhart · 03-12-2007 11:19PM

Other than player names,
Dunphy suggesting that Leto was a player he had never even heard of when weeks before he was able to comment on him as if he knew him...that shows that Dunphy isn't giving his opinion, he is just saying something that will raise eyebrows...

Rte might talk about bungs and things that sky might not (even tho' they actually do which totally rips apart this argument)...but lets suggest sky don't and we'll return to that later...RTE don't actually have a clue what they are talking about and just want to be controversial or make controversial statements/judgements. The reason they get so many views is because they are so bad that they are funny, and this is true as I can remember reading the official Liverpool messageboard before telling people to watch this "Eamonn Dunphy charachter from Irish TV".

I mean he gets views because of statements like
"Fat and a clown. A fat clown for all to see." (about Harry Kewell)

"A Tramp" (About Rio Ferdinand)

"They (Liverpool) should put Garcia where he belongs - in the dustbin." (About Luis Garcia)

"A poof ball" (About Ronaldo)

While I might agree on some things he says...I don't take him seriously as he has a concious opinion...by which I mean he really thinks about what he will say...instead of being truly honest...as he wants to be controversial...as that will make him more money.
I mean as a Liverpool fan myself I 100% agree with Roy Keane on the '02 situation and was called a "naive United fan" on the radio the morning he left the squad in Saipan when I was the only one supporting Roy saying people should not jump to conclusions. I also agree with some of his judgements aswell as strongly disagree with some so it isn't that he goes against my opinion.

I'm not going to study videos of him right now but I know that you could find many contradictions in what he says if you did. I didn't see but heard he had a right blast at Venables...which I would agree with..but was left looking a clown when O Herlihy quoted Dunphy in 2005 stating Venables was good.

Back to Sky talk briefly about bungs and other arguments of the same..but just state the current situation of affairs and don't go into large debates (unless you watch shows like "You're On.." or "Jimmy Hills Sunday Supplement") whereas RTE talk about things and go in depth sometimes talking nonsense or reading way too much into things.

I don't really watch BBC much so to be fair I cannot fairly judge their commentary....

therecklessone · 03-12-2007 11:53PM

PHB wrote: »

Dunphy doesn't even make sense though. He says Liverpool aren't up to United's standard. Then when you are watching United on RTE, he'll have a go at them, claiming they they aren't top players, that Ronaldo is a puffball, Carrick is a nothing player.

His "demolition" of half the Utd squad last week was comical...Nani, Anderson, O'Shea, Carrick (and one other I can't remember...not Ronaldo) aren't "Utd players", they're "squad players" (though John O'Shea is an important "squad player").

Words to that effect.

Pointless meanderings of a washed up old hack.

Entertaining, but ultimately offering little to informed discussion on football.

Giles' repsonse to Souness suggesting that the Dutch style of play meant that wingers didn't have to track back...priceless.

Neither Giles or Dunphy should be commenting on continental European sides, they know little or nothing about the vast majority of players or coaches.

Brethitmanhart · 04-12-2007 12:02AM

Can I ask what Giles said about Sousness comments....sounds funny!

therecklessone · 04-12-2007 12:06AM

Brethitmanhart wrote: »

Can I ask what Giles said about Sousness comments....sounds funny!

It was the Barca-Lyon game, Souness made a point that the wide men for Barca wouldn't be expected to track back, described it as the Dutch system.

Giles was incredulous, said something along the lines of he didn't believe it, and if it was true then he couldn't believe the Dutch ever won anything playing like that.

Again, paraphrased (heavily).

I'm sure honesty of effort was mentioned at some point.

therecklessone · 04-12-2007 12:31AM

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Dunphy discussing the world cup draw and Terry Venables as possible Ireland manager on the RTE website (can't link to the video cos its a javascript link but check video here:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/

Dunphy claimed he'd spent 10 days researching Terry Venables' career as a manager...he then quoted directly from this wiki article to back his point up. Searched high and low Eamo?

Unearthly · 04-12-2007 12:34AM

lol

Printing a wikipedia article and bringing it into the studio should be a capital punishment offence

darkman2 · 16-12-2007 11:52PM

haha
This is hallarious:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGcW4aU9bw

OPENROAD · 16-12-2007 11:56PM

darkman2 wrote: »

haha
This is hallarious:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGcW4aU9bw

daveirl · 17-12-2007 12:36AM

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RTE panel discussing corruption on Wednesday's CL

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