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Ireland: One of the top 5 places to live according to the UN

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    #2
    Lands Leaving
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    Problem with that is it measures GDP, but not cost of living seemingly. Ah well, to Iceland!


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    togster
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    No its not its sh!te


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    #4
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    I'm well travelled & for the most part I'd agree.

    But the problems in the health service geniunely scare me.

    I don't think there's any honour in Irish politics, and its getting worse. I think that has begun to impact upon people's quality of living too.


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    #5
    aidan_walsh
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    togster wrote: »
    No its not its sh!te
    Course it is.


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    #6
    halfinch
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    although are health systen is crap we do have a good standard of living. Yeah the cost of living is high but so is the minimun wage

    Ireland, craic an


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    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    I dont know where you travelled but no country I have ever been, has honourable politicians.

    Having just come back from 17 years of travel, I can see Ireland's biggest problem is the people.

    Heads and Arses.


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    #8
    leninbenjamin
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    it's an incredibly flawed index.


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    #9
    armour87
    Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭armour87


    Everywhere u go has its ****s


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    #10
    RxQueen
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    top 5!! you got to be kidding... its a sh!thole! well where i live is anyways,:D


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    #11
    Rob_l
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    I love ireland nearly as much as cake!


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    #12
    prendy
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    No its not its sh!te

    so youve lived in other countries to give such a well constructed answer.

    i think it takes a few things into account but id agree that its one of the best places to live.
    nowhere is perfect and sure weve got our problems but overall i think its good.


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    #13
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    All countries have their faults and I think when you travel dont see half the flaw of your temporary abode.

    What I have found coming back after 17 years is this -

    Good -

    Meat tastes amazing, good quality
    The views
    The major property slump on the horizon
    The country finally has broadband and shopping malls
    The hot (Polish) women

    Bad -

    The BMW driving, overvalued house living, overborrowing, baby fashion talking, Pat Kenny Watching, Brass Neck Bertie Loving Social Climbers.


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    Jumpy
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    prendy wrote: »
    so youve lived in other countries to give such a well constructed answer.

    i think it takes a few things into account but id agree that its one of the best places to live.
    nowhere is perfect and sure weve got our problems but overall i think its good.

    I have, Ireland ranks pretty low tbh.


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    prendy
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    I have, Ireland ranks pretty low tbh.

    ok...in what ways and compared to where?


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    Tiriel
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    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    Good -

    Meat tastes amazing, good quality
    The views
    The major property slump on the horizon
    The country finally has broadband and shopping malls
    The hot (Polish) women

    Bad -

    The BMW driving, overvalued house living, overborrowing, baby fashion talking, Pat Kenny Watching, Brass Neck Bertie Loving Social Climbers.

    That is brilliant!! Fair play to ya - super list there :D

    I wouldn't like to swap my life in Ireland - love it here and have travelled far and wide only to be damn glad of what we have going here. Yes there are faults - but overall.. I think it's incomparable with any other country.


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    jester77
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    prendy wrote: »
    ok...in what ways and compared to where?


    Compared to where I live, health service is better, decent broadband at a decent price, public transport is better and runs on time, roads are better, cost of living is cheaper, property is affordable, drink is cheap, people are not falling around the streets at 3am every weekend.... and those are just the ones from the top of my head!!


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    togster
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    prendy wrote: »
    so youve lived in other countries to give such a well constructed answer.


    Eh yeah i live in Sweden now. Have lived in the states too, france germany, italy. I meant its **** in relation to things that bother me, traffic, health, prices, pace of live. Its just my opinion


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    #19
    SlinkyToo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭SlinkyToo


    Yes and I think if Dublin was bombed to the ground and rebuilt, the population would have a chance to deisgn it properly. It would also help if we were all anal retentives.

    If you are like 90% of the Irish people I met when travelling, you have probably been no further than your bedsit and the local Hamburg Scruffy Murphys.

    Stay over there... Ireland is finally coming of age and those who believe will ride the wave of relaxed living that our forefathers lived for, nay, died for, all those years ago... wake up boys theres a light at the window, there are men coming down from the hills.... oh wait thats Chris De Burgh.

    Anyway my point is.... One Mans ****e is another Mans Manure

    Can I have my money now, me Mammys calling me in for Dinner


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    kmick
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    I work with a lot of people not originally from Ireland - here is what they say when I ask them in order of what they see as important.

    1) Very safe here. We may debate this but compared to India or Africa we have a utopia.
    2) Fresh air and not too crowded. Compared to india for example they have very bad air quality problems. Also much more crowded.
    3) Friendly people. Most people in Ireland have a if you do ok by me I will do ok by you attitude. Even though we are not the community based country we used to be there are still a lot of vibrant communities and friendly people.
    4) Politically stable - we dont have a great government but we have an ok one.
    5) Opportunity - Ireland for the last 10 years has been a place of opportunity. If you want to make money you can simple as that.

    These are not my views but I think overall apart from the weather its a pretty damn good country.


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    #21
    odyssey06
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    Ireland: 150,000 Poles can't be wrong...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #22
    togster
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    kmick wrote: »
    I work with a lot of people not originally from Ireland - here is what they say when I ask them in order of what they see as important.

    1) Very safe here. We may debate this but compared to India or Africa we have a utopia.
    2) Fresh air and not too crowded. Compared to india for example they have very bad air quality problems. Also much more crowded.
    3) Friendly people. Most people in Ireland have a if you do ok by me I will do ok by you attitude. Even though we are not the community based country we used to be there are still a lot of vibrant communities and friendly people.
    4) Politically stable - we dont have a great government but we have an ok one.
    5) Opportunity - Ireland for the last 10 years has been a place of opportunity. If you want to make money you can simple as that.

    These are not my views but I think overall apart from the weather its a pretty damn good country.


    Well first off most countries in Afriaca are developing countries so to compare their standards of living with Irelands is naive tbh. This is the point, Ireland is OK, but its not great.


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    #23
    biko
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    Michael Moore on Norway
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLQki-mQF4Q


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    #24
    mise_me_fein
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    Ireland. nice in parts, not in others but I think we're one of the nicest groups of people in the world and many others do also.


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    #25
    Jumpy
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    prendy wrote: »
    ok...in what ways and compared to where?

    Poor health
    Poor education
    Major social problems
    Public transport is terrible
    Roads are badly designed
    Overdevelopment without infrastructure.

    Compared to Australia and England.

    For a 'rich' country, I can see no evidence at all that any is being spent in the right places.


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    #26
    kevmy
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    Everytime this Ireland is sh1t/great argument comes up I always state the following:

    Every metric is flawed, no one takes everything into account.

    Everyone has different expectations or hopes, you cannot please everyone.

    However I think it is fair to say we are in the top tier of countries in the world. This tier consists of maybe 20 - 30 countries. Consider there are ~200+ countries in the world and thats pretty good.

    IMO the top tier consists of (in no particular order): USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, UK, Ireland, Scandinavia, most of Western Europe


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    #27
    SlinkyToo
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    Yeah England is a real nice place. Chav hoodies, schools closing, crime rife, I left there because it was so awesome.

    Australia has major issues, racism, alcohol abuse, outback murders, Paul Hogan


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    #28
    Jumpy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    Yeah England is a real nice place. Chav hoodies, schools closing, crime rife, I left there because it was so awesome.

    Australia has major issues, racism, alcohol abuse, outback murders, Paul Hogan

    Paul Hogan rates have dropped considerably in the past few years.

    Either way, from my experience, both those countries are superior to here.


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    AlmightyCushion
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    SlinkyToo wrote: »
    I can see Ireland's biggest problem is the people.

    Heads and Arses.

    Stop talking nonsense people all over the world have heads and arses. Unless you are talking about people who have arses for heads. But it's not right to abuse people who suffer from Torsonic Polarity Syndrome.

    http://www.southparkstuff.com/content/images/epiguid/season5/episode510.jpg


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    #30
    mucker23
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    that data is taken from 2005, now ireland has 3rd highest GDP, with norway and luxemburg above us, got this from the economist annual 2008, they use data thats 2 years old so not very accurate


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    #31
    CrazyTalk
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    SlinkyToo wrote: »

    Good -


    The hot (Polish) women


    Hear hear!


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