Big Girls You Are Beautiful Y/N?

projectmayhem · 26-10-2007 11:54AM

Terry wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that most of the people posting in this thread are having regular sex with models?

correct.

i believe postcount is directly linked to the attractiveness of the model you're sex0ring (the higher the hotter)

stratospheres · 26-10-2007 11:59AM

Ah another one of these!

Size 14 on a small girl would be fat, but if she's tall then she could still be healthy! I think people are generally agreeing that most guys don't go for fat girls. I mean ladies, would you go for a fat guy?

far2gud · 26-10-2007 12:01PM

projectmayhem wrote: »

correct.

i believe postcount is directly linked to the attractiveness of the model you're sex0ring (the higher the hotter)

Not into fat women myself, just posting here to increase my chances with said hot models. :rolleyes:

Wood · 26-10-2007 12:03PM

*Page*: Read up on vanity sizing, very prevalent over the last few years. So the 16 Marily Monroe wore could have been as small as a 10/12.

She's also smaller than a lot of the women that came after her in playboy, and as far as i'm aware they don't do "bumper" issues, so the sizes there are fairly low going by wiki. She's not large or big by any sense of the word. She had the "perfect" body for her time.

Having said that, i'd rather someone like monroe than richie hands down. But she was tiny, not big. A very petite, busty woman, Much like Dita Von Teese. Who would also get it. And she is not big, There is a damn large difference between being big and being curvy

Mr. Presentable · 26-10-2007 12:11PM

They're not "big boned", or "Plus sized", they're fat and obese. If you were talking about Damo you'd say he is a fat bastid, not he is plus sized. This is another female denial, like the hormone one, or the womens trouble one.

Also, sizes are the same no matter how tall you are, so you can be a tiny 12 at 5' 10", or a blob at 4' 10", so to say "I am only a size 14" is not the whole picture

*Page* · 26-10-2007 12:14PM

I was just in part trying to gaige were peoples idea of fat and big merge, the nicole v marilyn was my 1st of a few questions i was going to ask...

Marilyn was curvy, yet slender she was also short,

Nicole is thin and short...

next was going to be crvy short and crvy tall, etc etc...

"There is a damn large difference between being big and being curvy" this is what i want to know what is the general view...

Mr. Presentable · 26-10-2007 12:15PM

Terry wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that most of the people posting in this thread are having regular sex with models?

Well,they are internet users, so probably they/we are having regular sex with self assembled/inflated ladies

cance · 26-10-2007 12:18PM

Terry wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that most of the people posting in this thread are having regular sex with models?

Well that really depends on what you would class YORE MA as!

pls dont ban me, cmon, it was unexpected.

Terry · 26-10-2007 12:23PM

cance wrote: »

Well that really depends on what you would class YORE MA as!

pls dont ban me, cmon, it was unexpected.

It's all about context.

Anti · 26-10-2007 12:28PM

I can see one girl who is big and find her attractive, and see another of the same size and think she looks bet down. It all depends on appearance too, are they wearing nice cloths that fit, do they have a nice smile, pretty face, nic hair etc etc. And the most important aspect is " personality "

And personally ,i find skinny ( size 4-8/10 ) rather unattractive, Its like looking at a 12 year old boy.

But at the end of the day Horses for coarses.

Scoobydoobydoo · 26-10-2007 12:30PM

Wood wrote: »

Marilyn Monroe was a size 8. she had a 22 inch waist, and a 35 inch bust. wieghed in at about 8 and a half stone and was 5'6" tall, please explain how she is "big".

Nicole richie is in bits though. She's horribly skinny fat nowadays.

I know a few people who have PCOS, most of which tried a low-carb diet to keep insulin levels normal, and lose the weight, and when the weight came off the symptoms got much easier to deal with.

I know two girls with it and they're both twice the size of me unfortunately. I follow a diabetic type diet which I think stabilises it for me, but I don't lose anything. Exercise does tone my body, and I would say I'm quite fit because of exercise, I just probably don't look it!!

I think Salma Hayek is a good example of sexy curvy, although I'm not a man!

Sleepy · 26-10-2007 12:37PM

Low carb alone wouldn't control insulin levels, Wood. Timing and clean unprocessed meals of the right constituency would help.

I don't mean to be cruel Scoobydoobydoo but everything I said still stands. The PCOS makes it harder to maintain your weight but it doesn't make it impossible. I'd guess that if someone like g'em (who knows *WAY* more about this stuff than me) were to look at your exercise program and diet she'd be able to tweak it for you so that you might see some results.

Even if you think I'm an asshole, my advice would be to disregard what you think of me and have a look at the fitness forum, if you prefer I'll stay out of any thread you start there. You have it harder than most to lose extra weight so try and level the playing field by learning from some of the very smart folks on that forum.

Reku · 26-10-2007 12:40PM

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

elevated cholesterol, fatigued, overweight (size 14)

All could equally be down to diet & lifestyle (not accusing, just stating WRT the whole 1/10 using PCOS as an excuse for being obese).
I find it odd that my friend can suffer some of the worse effects listed(in terms of how badly upset her hormone levels need to be) yet somehow be free of this one.

I think G'em has raised a very good point WRT to the increase in PCOS being possibly due to the increasing obesity and not the other way around, AFAIK being obese will unfortunately up the amounts of insulin required which in turn ups the amount of Oestrogen required as these two hormones interfere with each other, as a result cancers & cysts are more likely to form on the ovaries. So once again whether many PCOS sufferers can blame PCOS for being obese is questionable.

Blowfish · 26-10-2007 12:45PM

*Page* wrote: »

She was curvy and is deemed a big girl

Nicole is not curvy and deemed thin...

and at points of her carree she was a 16!

It's still not a fair comparison tbh. Nicole Richie would still be in bits and hideously ugly no matter what weight she was.

thecleverone · 26-10-2007 12:46PM

Ok, this has gone off topic. I don't want everyone to get into big discussions about why people are overweight and what they can do.

Going back to my original post.

Do guys prefer thin girls or curvy girls?

Cuddlesworth · 26-10-2007 12:47PM

Big girls can be beautiful or butt ugly the same as skinny girls. Its when you hit the obesity stage or on your way to hitting it that you stop becoming attractive. And the majority of the time its that persons fault.

NeMiSiS · 26-10-2007 12:48PM

*Page* wrote: »

Question to all:

men~ who would you have s€x with out of the two below

women ~ what body do you perfer to have out of the two below

Niocle Ricci

or

Marylin Monroe

Sex is not a bad word.. is it ?

Nicole Ritchie is a mutt in any mans language, she is not healthy, and has an eating disorder. When she had a bit of weight on her she was more attractive, but that I suppose is because she looked a bit happier with herself. It's a bad example.

This - nice skinny - http://randomteam.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/sexy-brazilian-models-wallpaper-alessandra-ambrosio-adriana-lima-e-ana-beatriz-barros.jpg
Who wouldn't want to be on that boat ?

http://www.crazyass13.com/photopages/heidi_klum/images/TheRock-HeidiKlum-11Mil9.jpg - and that's perfect.

TK

*Page* · 26-10-2007 12:48PM

i'm talking bodys not faces!

but you are right, i've dropped that line of thought...

i'm just currious to were the line is between fat and big in the general view of things...

a friend of mine said as long as your tits dont sit on yer belly yer grand... (this was said to a guy, but could it be used for both sex's?)

Scoobydoobydoo · 26-10-2007 12:51PM

Sleepy wrote: »

Low carb alone wouldn't control insulin levels, Wood. Timing and clean unprocessed meals of the right constituency would help.

I don't mean to be cruel Scoobydoobydoo but everything I said still stands. The PCOS makes it harder to maintain your weight but it doesn't make it impossible. I'd guess that if someone like g'em (who knows *WAY* more about this stuff than me) were to look at your exercise program and diet she'd be able to tweak it for you so that you might see some results.

Even if you think I'm an asshole, my advice would be to disregard what you think of me and have a look at the fitness forum, if you prefer I'll stay out of any thread you start there. You have it harder than most to lose extra weight so try and level the playing field by learning from some of the very smart folks on that forum.

Of course I don't think you're an asshole, Sleepy. I'm just hormonally imbalance and highly sensitive!! I'm sorry if I've annoyed people here today.

I have followed a programme in the gym and saw no results, I have cycled, walked, exercised at home - other people would say to me that I'm over doing it and I'd say I have to because I have to do three times more than others. I'd be knackered and find it difficult to do anything else because exercise was taking up all my time. It is very hard when you make a huge effort, and yes, I do tone up a bit, but that is all I see! I think maybe I am not getting bigger because of my diet and exercise, but I am also not coming down in size. Yes, I might go over to that forum and seek advice, good idea, and thanks. I suppose the reason I haven't is because I can't face failure repeatedly, sometimes I need to take time out and get my head together! I do start off positively, then get really down when huge efforts don't pay off.

Pigman II · 26-10-2007 12:54PM

Mighty_Mouse wrote: »

In fairness, the fact that the song is sung by a gay man should answer the question!

Yes but 75% of FagHags are big fat heffers, so that might be influencing his opinion more than the fact that he prefers to make duckbutter in mens bums.

mac123 · 26-10-2007 12:59PM

big girls=yuk

Sleepy · 26-10-2007 01:01PM

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

Of course I don't think you're an asshole, Sleepy. I'm just hormonally imbalance and highly sensitive!! I'm sorry if I've annoyed people here today.

I have followed a programme in the gym and saw no results, I have cycled, walked, exercised at home - other people would say to me that I'm over doing it and I'd say I have to because I have to do three times more than others. I'd be knackered and find it difficult to do anything else because exercise was taking up all my time. It is very hard when you make a huge effort, and yes, I do tone up a bit, but that is all I see! I think maybe I am not getting bigger because of my diet and exercise, but I am also not coming down in size. Yes, I might go over to that forum and seek advice, good idea, and thanks. I suppose the reason I haven't is because I can't face failure repeatedly, sometimes I need to take time out and get my head together! I do start off positively, then get really down when huge efforts don't pay off.

I'd hazard a guess that your program in the gym is heavily dominated by cardio and some light weight work? The typical cookie-cutter program given to a new gym member by virtually any personal trainer working in a gym. Thing is, for the results you want, that's usually the wrong program. Head over to the fitness forum and have a look at the stickies, particularly anything g'em has written (you have an opportunity here to get advice from a double-world record holder who's set to shatter her own records very soon).

monkey tennis · 26-10-2007 01:12PM

Not only do I think fat itself is bloody disgusting, I think less of people who let themselves get that way. It's horrible to have to talk to someone with their sweaty bodies and jowls jiggling away, looking more like some sort of blubber-ized antarctic creature than a human.

Gauge wrote: »

I would love to know why any of the threads about women/appearance here devolve very quickly into a rant about how ugly and vain Irish women- every single one of them, apparently- are.

Bear in mind the stereotypical male online forum reader - they're hardly the most attractive bunch, particularly if you peruse the Know Your Nerds thread (mind you, the women are rarely much better...). Naturally, the average boards reader/ranter is going to experience rejection on a more regular basis (there seem to be plenty of threads against Irish men, too)

g'em wrote: »

What kind of condition are we talking about here?

It's called 'telly'. Goes hand-in-hand with the condition known as 'big mac meal'.

Scoobydoobydoo · 26-10-2007 01:12PM

farohar wrote: »

All could equally be down to diet & lifestyle (not accusing, just stating WRT the whole 1/10 using PCOS as an excuse for being obese).
I find it odd that my friend can suffer some of the worse effects listed(in terms of how badly upset her hormone levels need to be) yet somehow be free of this one.

I think G'em has raised a very good point WRT to the increase in PCOS being possibly due to the increasing obesity and not the other way around, AFAIK being obese will unfortunately up the amounts of insulin required which in turn ups the amount of Oestrogen required as these two hormones interfere with each other, as a result cancers & cysts are more likely to form on the ovaries. So once again whether many PCOS sufferers can blame PCOS for being obese is questionable.

You have one whole friend with PCOS, do you think her case is typical? I am one of three people I know who has it and none of us are vomiting, so should I say that it's odd that your friend is? Two out of the three of us are infertile. Two out of the three are obese, one overweight. We are all hormonally imbalanced, this is the cause, not obesity. If obesity was the cause, why do 20% of sufferers not gain weight? I wasn't ever overweight before, I was always size 8-10, and it is very hard for me to accept being this size.

I'll give you an example to compare me against someone else:
At one stage my husband joined with me in the diet/exercise. He is 10 years older than me. In 3 weeks we ate the same diet exactly. I exercised about 5 times the amount he did. (I was at home full time, I had the time) He lost 8 llbs. I put on 1llb.

If you had unexplained weight gain, which is largely cited as a common symptom, you eat all the right foods and take regular exercise, why would you then say that blaming PCOS is questionable? Is your friend infertile also? Because that, to me is one of the worst effects.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 26-10-2007 01:16PM

monkey tennis wrote: »

It's called 'telly'. Goes hand-in-hand with the condition known as 'big mac meal'.

Heh Checkmate!

Scoobydoobydoo · 26-10-2007 01:19PM

Sleepy wrote: »

I'd hazard a guess that your program in the gym is heavily dominated by cardio and some light weight work? The typical cookie-cutter program given to a new gym member by virtually any personal trainer working in a gym. Thing is, for the results you want, that's usually the wrong program. Head over to the fitness forum and have a look at the stickies, particularly anything g'em has written (you have an opportunity here to get advice from a double-world record holder who's set to shatter her own records very soon).

Thank you Sleepy, I will think about doing just that. I would like to, it's just that I'm a bit nervous after all this, I feel very attacked today, almost as if I'm making it all up, using excuses or whatever and I just feel like sh1t. I shouldn't have posted on this and then got myself all defensive, it's draining! I am starting with a new gym next week and I'll look to try something different. I might poke my head into the forum next week.

monkey tennis · 26-10-2007 01:22PM

Chunks wrote: »

Where the hell did you come up with that idea? and you're a mod?

I'm always curious why people think being a mod of an entirely unrelated forum would make a difference in some discussion about fat people?

Terry wrote: »

I don't do corpses.

Ah, where's your sense of adventure?

Reku · 26-10-2007 01:24PM

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

You have one whole friend with PCOS, do you think her case is typical? I am one of three people I know who has it and none of us are vomiting, so should I say that it's odd that your friend is? Two out of the three of us are infertile. Two out of the three are obese, one overweight.

If you bothered to calm down enough to think on it rather than seeing everything as a personal attack I am making the point that her hormone levels would appear to be more off kilter than yours since it does result in vomiting.

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

We are all hormonally imbalanced, this is the cause, not obesity.

You think obesity is not the cause, even scientists and doctors don't know so you can't possibly claim to.

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

If obesity was the cause, why do 20% of sufferers not gain weight? I wasn't ever overweight before, I was always size 8-10, and it is very hard for me to accept being this size.

As I explained insulin levels have their part to play in this (hence also why diabeties is a risk), as such a high sugar diet could cause it just as easily as actual obesity. There are people who can ingest large quantities of sugary foods and yet never gain weight, it does not mean that their bodies are not suffering, just that it is not in an obvious way. Why you have PCOS I would not guess (as I tried to explain in my previous post although you seem to continue to take it personally), radiation, diet, genetic, chemical, physical injury, etc... there are numerous possibilities for what might cause such conditions.

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

I'll give you an example to compare me against someone else:
At one stage my husband joined with me in the diet/exercise. He is 10 years older than me. In 3 weeks we ate the same diet exactly. I exercised about 5 times the amount he did. (I was at home full time, I had the time) He lost 8 llbs. I put on 1llb.

According to all RDAs men require more energy intake per day to survive, as such eating the same diet it is not surprising that he would lose more weight than you.

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

If you had unexplained weight gain, which is largely cited as a common symptom, you eat all the right foods and take regular exercise, why would you then say that blaming PCOS is questionable? Is your friend infertile also? Because that, to me is one of the worst effects.

TBH I don't think she ever got checked so could be, perhaps she just hasn't said that she is, not exactly something you out and ask a lady.

Dudess · 26-10-2007 01:31PM

Fat is not attractive and that song is a load of patronising sh*t.

gcgirl · 26-10-2007 01:33PM

Scoobydoobydoo wrote: »

Of course I don't think you're an asshole, Sleepy. I'm just hormonally imbalance and highly sensitive!! I'm sorry if I've annoyed people here today.

I have followed a programme in the gym and saw no results, I have cycled, walked, exercised at home - other people would say to me that I'm over doing it and I'd say I have to because I have to do three times more than others. I'd be knackered and find it difficult to do anything else because exercise was taking up all my time. It is very hard when you make a huge effort, and yes, I do tone up a bit, but that is all I see! I think maybe I am not getting bigger because of my diet and exercise, but I am also not coming down in size. Yes, I might go over to that forum and seek advice, good idea, and thanks. I suppose the reason I haven't is because I can't face failure repeatedly, sometimes I need to take time out and get my head together! I do start off positively, then get really down when huge efforts don't pay off.

I know how hard it is to lose weight after my last child i weighed 15 stone(was not baby weight), suffered from IBS badly, i went back to playing Gaa as soon as my 6 week check up passed since i had c section had to be a little carefull and for the last 20 months worked my ass off totally (gym : bike,loads of sit ups, treadmill,crosstrainer, stepper, lay off the weights cos your adding muscle which weighs more that fat) watch what you eat i cut down on carbs though i do have the little indulgense ie chipper food (excuse the spelling) and now i am down to 10 & half stone and i am feeling great more confidence !

Big Girls You Are Beautiful Y/N?

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