England is better than Ireland isn't it.

Lizzykins · 11-10-2007 09:55PM

boreds wrote: »

It's only better in some ways because it's bigger,more populated and richer.
I wouldn't swap their social problems for ours in a million years. At least our knackers aren't chavs.

They do pomp and ceremony exceptionally well but you cam keep everything else! The food is appalling. Comes with having to feed 60 odd million people I suppose. It's BOTTOM of my list of places to emigrate to. Tops are Canada and New Zealand.

Lizzykins · 11-10-2007 09:56PM

MoominPapa wrote: »

The great thing about England is that we can easily access their world beating arts & media without having to live there. Quite frankly its a kip

+1

Mr. Presentable · 11-10-2007 09:57PM

England is better than Ireland. Piggie's right.

But England is on a slide while Ireland is on the rise. Soon we'll pass them on their way down. Remember to wave, Pighead

Wertz · 11-10-2007 09:59PM

For once Pighead I couldn't agree with you more...don't get me wrong, I love my country, I love my people (well most of them) and I love being Irish (whatever that even means anymore) but the UK definitely do things with more je ne sais quoi....
Nothing seems amateurish (except their government), their entertainment output, their music scenes, loads of things are just more established and broad ranged....maybe it's to do with them having a larger population and it's probably got a lot to do with their multi-culturalism of late, but whatever it is, we don't seem to have it in any big amount here...and any we do get usually ends up over there as they can't get a break here...

challengemaster · 11-10-2007 10:02PM

compared to our education system, theirs is pretty much like toddler work

also nobody's ever happy with where they live. you know why? Something is always going to be 'not the way they want it', always, for atleast someone. if you lived in england you'd probably say the same.

Orange69 · 11-10-2007 10:07PM

nipplenuts wrote: »

But England is on a slide while Ireland is on the rise.

Ireland stopped rising 5 years ago and since then the country has been careering towards a brick wall..

Atrociously cheap and tacky unplanned housing for all!

Pighead · 11-10-2007 10:13PM

Yeah its just everything. Their reality shows are shit but our ones are several leagues of shit stinkier than theirs. They have Dale Winton as theri token gay gameshow host presenter, we've got Shirley Temple Bar. Now Pigheads no Winton fan but he's a hell of a lot classier than that yoke on tellybingo. They've got Corrie, we've got Fair City. They've got The London Eye, we've got the spike. They've got Helen Mirren as they're leading lady who's wheeled forward as Britains leading female representative, we've got Twink.etc ad nauseum God Save The Queen.

TPD · 11-10-2007 10:16PM

challengemaster wrote: »

compared to our education system, theirs is pretty much like toddler work

I've come out of the English education system a few years ago and into the Irish one, I can tell you first hand that the English way of doing things is a lot better.

cornbb · 11-10-2007 10:18PM

Its a scumbag-infested xenophobic police state, bitter and hung-over after the end of their centuries of world domination. But at least they have nice things like decent roads, proper cities, good comedians and the BBC. And most english people I know are decent folk.

tenandtracer · 11-10-2007 10:18PM

Ireland vs England - that's really a moot point.
Why compare a small "recently developed" nation with a well established global super power (England)?

However why not compare England and France, two nations of similar sizes and aspirations. France, of course, wins on every count you could care to mention, sports, the arts, standard of education, architecture, cuisine, wine etc etc.

Knockoff Nige · 11-10-2007 10:21PM

Its a well known fact that Ireland is jealous of England. We really want to live in Manchester and Liverpool. Not just for the women but for the football. The premier league could nearly be called Irish for the amount of support we give it (and rightly so). We love everything english but should anyone dare ask us about it, we HATE them. We really are a rubbish, sad and embarrasing nation. We're not even friends with other nations. We're just neutral. We're the country who stays in on a saturday night.

philstar · 11-10-2007 10:22PM

nipplenuts wrote: »

Soon we'll pass them on their way down. Remember to wave, Pighead

but we've already passed them by, imo

the gap between the "haves" and the "have nots" over there is unreal, it really is a class divided society.

as i said the best thing about england is...the slappers...english girls have got to be the most randiest in europe if not the world
....they jump into bed with ya, no questions asked:D

Orange69 · 11-10-2007 10:23PM

tenandtracer wrote: »

Ireland vs England - that's really a moot point.
Why compare a small "recently developed" nation with a well established global super power (England)?

However why not compare England and France, two nations of similar sizes and aspirations. France, of course, wins on every count you could care to mention, sports, the arts, standard of education, architecture, cuisine, wine etc etc.

Fair point, we should compare like with like...

How about Ireland vs. Uganda.

Corrupt leadership - tick
Complete government incompetence - tick
3rd world health system - tick
Crap roads and infrastructure - tick

Wertz · 11-10-2007 10:26PM

^ Nice

Knockoff Nige · 11-10-2007 10:32PM

philstar wrote: »

but we've already passed them by, imo

the gap between the "haves" and the "have nots" over there is unreal, it really is a class divided society.

as i said the best thing about england is...the slappers...english girls have got to be the most randiest in europe if not the world
....they jump into bed with ya, no questions asked:D

Well, I like the women, for sure. But, I also like plenty of other things they beat us at. Politics, comedy, tv, film, football commentary (noone mention the bin man on rte), appraisal of heroes, speed of progress, deploying new technology, inventing new technology.

Pighead · 11-10-2007 10:33PM

tenandtracer wrote: »

Ireland vs England - that's really a moot point.
Why compare a small "recently developed" nation with a well established global super power (England)?

However why not compare England and France, two nations of similar sizes and aspirations. France, of course, wins on every count you could care to mention, sports, the arts, standard of education, architecture, cuisine, wine etc etc.

Bollox to that.
Sports: Premier League better than French League, Horse Racing better in England, Snooker, darts, Boxing, Swimming etc etc.
The Arts: Better music from england, arguably better literature over the years, better orchestras in England etc etc
Education: Shambles in France, fcukers striking every 2nd month, rows over muslim kids wearing their veils. etc etc
Architecture: Arguable
Cuisine: Yeah
Wine: Yeah

So the French are better at eating and drinking and thats about it. Oh and smelling like poo as well.

tenandtracer · 11-10-2007 10:34PM

Orange69 wrote: »

Fair point, we should compare like with like...

How about Ireland vs. Uganda.

Fair point, both countries ruled by Britain (in one way or another) - so a good comparison.

Knockoff Nige · 11-10-2007 10:35PM

Pighead wrote: »

Bollox to that.
Sports: Premier League better than French League, Horse Racing better in England, Snooker, darts, Boxing, Swimming etc etc.
The Arts: Better music from england, arguably better literature over the years, better orchestras in England etc etc
Education: Shambles in France, fcukers striking every 2nd month, rows over muslim kids wearing their veils. etc etc
Architecture: Arguable
Cuisine: Yeah
Wine: Yeah

So the French are better at eating and drinking and thats about it. Oh and smelling like poo as well.

Arrogance, they are better at that than anyone else. France are arrogance kings. Not an attractive quality in a nation. A fit blonde perhaps.

SuperSean11 · 11-10-2007 10:43PM

Pighead wrote: »

Bollox to that.
Sports: Premier League better than French League, Horse Racing better in England, Snooker, darts, Boxing, Swimming etc etc.
The Arts: Better music from england, arguably better literature over the years, better orchestras in England etc etc
Education: Shambles in France, fcukers striking every 2nd month, rows over muslim kids wearing their veils. etc etc
Architecture: Arguable
Cuisine: Yeah
Wine: Yeah

So the French are better at eating and drinking and thats about it. Oh and smelling like poo as well.

ALL very debatable

Pighead · 11-10-2007 10:45PM

SuperSean11 wrote: »

ALL very debatable

Well don't just stand there gawping man, debate it!

TPD · 11-10-2007 10:48PM

SuperSean11 wrote: »

ALL very debatable

Get debatin'

Edit:Too slow, damn

tenandtracer · 11-10-2007 10:51PM

Come to think of it Germany is better than England.
Better trains
Superb roads
Excellent Universities
Cleaner Cities
Pretty good Wine
Better Food
.......em....and Techno

TPD · 11-10-2007 10:54PM

tenandtracer wrote: »

Come to think of it Germany is better than England.
Better trains
Superb roads
Excellent Universities
Cleaner Cities
Pretty good Wine
Better Food
.......em....and Techno

It's 'England Vs. Ireland' not 'England Vs. everyone else', stay on topic for christsakes.

Gotta agree with you on the techno point though :P

SuperSean11 · 11-10-2007 10:57PM

Pighead wrote: »

Bollox to that.
Sports: Premier League better than French League, Horse Racing better in England, Snooker, darts, Boxing, Swimming etc etc.
The Arts: Better music from england, arguably better literature over the years, better orchestras in England etc etc
Education: Shambles in France, fcukers striking every 2nd month, rows over muslim kids wearing their veils. etc etc
Architecture: Arguable
Cuisine: Yeah
Wine: Yeah

So the French are better at eating and drinking and thats about it. Oh and smelling like poo as well.

"Premier League better than French League" Well england invented football so what u expect and the clubs get more money in england then france so they get better players

"Horse Racing better in England, Snooker, darts, Boxing, Swimming" Care to back that up

"Shambles in France, fcukers striking every 2nd month, rows over muslim kids wearing their veils. etc etc" Same in England

Pighead wrote: »

Well don't just stand there gawping man, debate it!

tenandtracer · 11-10-2007 10:58PM

TPD wrote: »

It's 'England Vs. Ireland' not 'England Vs. everyone else', stay on topic for christsakes.

Gotta agree with you on the techno point though :P

TPD I know we are totally sh*te so I am trying to diffuse the argument ;-)

SuperSean11 · 11-10-2007 10:59PM

Pighead wrote: »

Bollox to that.
Sports: Premier League better than French League, Horse Racing better in England, Snooker, darts, Boxing, Swimming etc etc.
The Arts: Better music from england, arguably better literature over the years, better orchestras in England etc etc
Education: Shambles in France, fcukers striking every 2nd month, rows over muslim kids wearing their veils. etc etc
Architecture: Arguable
Cuisine: Yeah
Wine: Yeah

So the French are better at eating and drinking and thats about it. Oh and smelling like poo as well.

"Premier League better than French League" Well england invented football so what u expect and the clubs get more money in england then france so they get better players

"Horse Racing better in England, Snooker, darts, Boxing, Swimming" Care to back that up

"Shambles in France, fcukers striking every 2nd month, rows over muslim kids wearing their veils. etc etc" Same in England

Pighead wrote: »

Well don't just stand there gawping man, debate it!

There

dfx- · 11-10-2007 11:00PM

Knockoff Nige wrote: »

We really are a rubbish, sad and embarrasing nation. We're not even friends with other nations. We're just neutral. We're the country who stays in on a saturday night.

moneymoneymoney · 11-10-2007 11:05PM

Well can you imagine anyone in the early 90s even considering it possible that *maybe* Ireland was as good as England. We're getting there folks

Borneo Fnctn · 11-10-2007 11:07PM

Pighead, why don't you just **** or get off the pot. Move to England and see who cares. Of course they are going to have things better than us: they ****ed half the world over.

TPD · 11-10-2007 11:11PM

jackpalance wrote: »

Pighead, why don't you just **** or get off the pot. Move to England and see who cares. Of course they are going to have things better than us: they ****ed half the world over.

He bites

England is better than Ireland isn't it.

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