The Get Me Through The Day Thread

misswex · 01-10-2007 03:56PM

Do you not some of those popcorn seeds are laden with salt which I imagine isn't the best for ya health wise.

I love Manhattan popcorn and they come in handy size packets so they are great if you fancy a snack during the day, just enough to keep you happy.

ali.c · 01-10-2007 04:01PM

misswex wrote:

Do you not some of those popcorn seeds are laden with salt which I imagine isn't the best for ya health wise.

The actual seeds that you buy in a packet are just seeds, presumably thats what tar is referring to. The only added salt is that salt you add yourself so its alot better than the microwavable variety!

Dragan · 01-10-2007 04:27PM

Just to throw another slant on it, why look at not eating that mars bar or packet of crisps as bad thing?

When i beat an urge i haven't denied myself anything.

I have suceed in my goal.

tribulus · 01-10-2007 06:03PM

Dragan wrote:

Just to throw another slant on it, why look at not eating that mars bar or packet of crisps as bad thing?

When i beat an urge i haven't denied myself anything.

I have suceed in my goal.

Well put.

As for snacks, I used to make my own protein bars (kind of gooey though) with whey, some oats and nutella, yum!

I also substituted natural PB for the nutella which made it more solid but gave it a better nutritional profile too.

neuro-praxis · 02-10-2007 07:27PM

Gooey protein bars? *shudder*

I rediscovered today the wonderful thing that is liquorice - not the allsort variety but the plain, natural variety. A panda liquorice bar is made from blackstrap molasses which is a great source of calcium, magnesium, potassium and iron. It's low in calories and it's got a low Glycaemic Index so it burns slowly, preventing sugar crashes. And it's a really nice snack. Score. \o/

davyjose · 03-10-2007 03:18PM

neuro-praxis wrote:

I find it hard to believe that when you're on the bus and hungry between meals, you're snacking on a boiled potato, a can of beans or a jar of home-made spag bol!

I find it hard to believe when you're hungry on the bus, you can't wait until you get off the bus to eat.
In all fairness, one of the fundamentals of eating healthily is to plan ahead, otherwise, yeah, of course you'll end up eating crisps and curly-wurlys!!!

Dragan · 03-10-2007 04:14PM

I have sat on the luas eating Tuna and Pineapple from a tub before. I get some funny looks, but frankly they are always from people who i wouldn't want to look like.

Can you see me struggling to be polite there?

I wouldn't consider myself to be anything special, and have done what it takes to acheive the goals i wanted to acheive. I can assure many posters here that my level of willpower is nothing special. It doesn't really take that.

It just takes being loyal to yourself and your dreams.

McGinty · 03-10-2007 09:37PM

I think popcorn is a better alternative to crisps, sometimes I need a dose of salty food (I don't use salt in cooking or on food) but every so often I need it, other good snacks are fruit, rice cakes, I try to bring packed lunches and snacks espicially now I am back in college but it is hard to gauge sometimes if I bring enough or too much. If you can make rice and add fish/meat to it and some roasted veg in a lunch box can be a lovely lunch time meal. Personally I carry tubs of little food with me everywhere, and another good snack is nuts, eg: brazil/cashew/almond etc along with a tablespoon of raisins and that also keeps me going.

davyjose · 03-10-2007 09:50PM

Dragan wrote:

I have sat on the luas eating Tuna and Pineapple from a tub before. I get some funny looks, but frankly they are always from people who i wouldn't want to look like.

You may have misinterpreted what I meant. It's not the fact that I wouldn't eat on the bus, but that if it came down to a choice of eating a bag of crisps, or waiting to get something more nutritious, I would wait, or, as I alluded to, I would have something healthy prepared. I myself, have on occasion stank up the carriage of a commuter train eating hard-boiled eggs.

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 10:30AM

davyjose wrote:

I find it hard to believe when you're hungry on the bus, you can't wait until you get off the bus to eat.
In all fairness, one of the fundamentals of eating healthily is to plan ahead, otherwise, yeah, of course you'll end up eating crisps and curly-wurlys!!!

Thanks a million for that.

I have said this before, and I am going to say it again.

Eating small servings of foods like (baked) crisps and chocolate are fine as part of a balanced diet. I refuse to take any holier-than-thou crap about it. I am not going to pretend that I never eat these things, I do, and there is nothing wrong with it.

I also plan ahead - I plan ahead and include these treats in my diet. Therefore when I am on a bus tucking into a packet of Walkers baked crisps I am doing so because it is a low GI, low fat, low salt treat that I have planned into my day. I don't "end up" having crisps and chocolate at any time, I decide to in advance if I am going to. I have no guilt about it, and incorporating these kinds of occasional pleasures into my diet have undeniably aided my weight loss. The numbers speak for themselves.

I have no problems with anyone else tucking into a can of tuna on the luas. I have no problems with you waiting, davyjose, til you can prepare yourself a nutritious meal. But I am simply not going to allow this superior attitude to food around here...if I want to have a goddamned curly wurly once a week I am going to have it.

I suppose you never eat such foods davyjose. Hallelujah for another saint.

g'em · 04-10-2007 10:47AM

It's simple. Be honest with yourself.

If I need to lose weight a curly wurly wont help me do it, therefore I don't eat them or any junk food for that matter.

If I just want to maintain my weight then a curly wurly could indeed be a part of my diet on occasion, along with other 'treats' that won't hurt from time time to time as long as I eat well the other 80% of my day.

If I was trying to put on weight I'd probably eat a curly wurly, two snickers bars, a crate of salt and vinegar hula-hoops and wash it down with four gallons of Eddie Rockets Oreo Malt.

i.e. my dietary habits reflect my goals. That's not holier-than-thou, that's honesty (with myself, the only opinion that matters at the end of the day).

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 10:51AM

g'em wrote:

If I need to lose weight a curly wurly wont help me do it, therefore I don't eat them or any junk food for that matter.

g'em, therefore, if I am committed to losing weight, having a Curly Wurly will hinder this?

I really would like to know why. We both can read the nutritional information from the back of the packet. If it is incorporated as part of a calorie-deficit diet and combined with exercise, why exactly wouldn't I, or anyone, lose weight? It is simple science.

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 11:04AM

g'em wrote:

i.e. my dietary habits reflect my goals. That's not holier-than-thou, that's honesty (with myself, the only opinion that matters at the end of the day).

Your dietary habits reflect your goals.

My dietary habits reflect my goals.

You would not eat a curly wurly while trying to lose weight but you would make a pasta sauce based on cream, as determined by your low-cal recipe recommendation in another thread.

Don't you see that this is simply swings and roundabouts? Personal choice? Each to their own? Etc etc. etc.?

Incidentally, by using this philosophy, my weight has dropped by 18.5lbs in the last 7 weeks.

g'em · 04-10-2007 11:19AM

neuro-praxis wrote:

Your dietary habits reflect your goals.

My dietary habits reflect my goals.

n-p, I only ever referred to my own goals, never to yours. I don't think I ever mentioned you specifically?

neuro-praxis wrote:

g'em, therefore, if I am committed to losing weight, having a Curly Wurly will hinder this?

no, I said if *I* want to lose weight I don't eat curly wurly's.

I merely used a curly wurly because it had already been discussed. If a curly wurly is part of your plan, kudos and good luck. And a huge congratulations on the weight loss so far, that's a massive acheivement and a healthy and sustainable rate of loss

g'em · 04-10-2007 11:25AM

oh and to stay OT, snacks for me = handfuls of mixed nuts and tuna drizzled with oil. Right now I'm high-fat, high-protein, no carbs so every snack feels like a treat because so many of them are calorie dense. Yum!!

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 11:28AM

g'em wrote:

n-p, I only ever referred to my own goals, never to yours. I don't think I ever mentioned you specifically? I merely used a curly wurly because it had already been discussed. If a curly wurly is part of your plan, kudos and good luck. And a huge congratulations on the weight loss so far, that's a massive acheivement and a healthy and sustainable rate of loss

It is true you did not mention me specifically, but your post was an obvious response to the discussion I was having with davyjose. You even quoted my words "holier-than-thou" in your defence of your position which is the attitude that I accused davyjose of. Your response seemed to suggest that davyjose is therefore being honest with himself while I am not. I apologise if this inference was misplaced?

My difficulty here, you will understand, is not that somebody would feel there is no way they could include a Curly Wurly (I have never typed those words so many times in my life) in their diet, it is that there is a pervasive superiority toward those who admit to eating these kinds of things. Meanwhile, davyjose is a fan of a big slap-up at Eddie Rockets every now and again.

Now personally my philosophy says if you want your Eddie Rockets meal then go have it. Take a cut elsewhere, do a little extra exercise. But his philosophy (NEVER EAT JUNK - YOU WILL STAY FAT) isn't actually mapping onto reality. i.e. don't tell me not to eat my fu*king curly wurly if you're off for a big fat cheeseburger and chilli fries!

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 11:30AM

oh and to stay OT, snacks for me = handfuls of mixed nuts and tuna drizzled with oil. Right now I'm high-fat, high-protein, no carbs so every snack feels like a treat because so many of them are calorie dense. Yum!!
Today 11:19

There's a big bucket of 100% natural peanut butter in my cupboard that needs a willing belly if you want to come and collect it!!

fits · 04-10-2007 11:33AM

In fairness, you both have completely different goals and lifestyles, I gather G'em is losing fat for athletic reasons, whereas n-p is losing weight for health and size reasons. Tis a big difference guys..

I didnt really see any posts that were 'holier than thou'. Noone said that its wrong to eat the odd curly wurly if it suits.

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 11:38AM

Actually, davyjose did.

I ain't got no beef with g'em. (just peanutbutter)

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 11:42AM

Oh and as a point of interest for those of you who love kiwis - if you buy a box of kiwis in Superquinn theyinclude a nifty plastic knife-spoon device in the box, which makes eating kiwis on the hoof easier - especially if you don't like that stringy feeling on the tongue that the skins give you! I keep mine in my bag with a napkin for discreet kiwi munching at my desk in work.

g'em · 04-10-2007 11:51AM

neuro-praxis wrote:

Your response seemed to suggest that davyjose is therefore being honest with himself while I am not

nooo!! that's not what I meant at all!! What I mean is people in general should do themselves the courtesy of being honest with themselves, there's *nothing* wrong with eating chocolate, but you can't turn around and whinge that you aren't losing weight while you have a mars bar in your hand!

neuro-praxis wrote:

Curly Wurly (I have never typed those words so many times in my life)

it's started to lose all meaning now hasn't it?!!?

neuro-praxis wrote:

there is a pervasive superiority toward those who admit to eating these kinds of things. Meanwhile, davyjose is a fan of a big slap-up at Eddie Rockets every now and again.

*note: not picking on davyjose here

* this, to a certain extent I do agree with. I remember being horrified when I was accused of being a 'fitness nazi' because I was being very forthright in my views about certain eating habits. I (hope) I've become a lot more mindful of that, and I'd hate to think I'm still like that. The simple fact is some folk are fitness minded, some aren't, and so certain eating habits will suit some and not others.

But I don't beleive that davyjose was actually saying "NEVER EAT JUNK - YOU WILL STAY FAT", more that preparation and a willingess to be pactical and determined will help.

neuro-praxis wrote:

There's a big bucket of 100% natural peanut butter in my cupboard that needs a willing belly if you want to come and collect it!!

woooooooohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Vegeta · 04-10-2007 11:57AM

neuro-praxis wrote:

My difficulty here, you will understand, is not that somebody would feel there is no way they could include a Curly Wurly (I have never typed those words so many times in my life) in their diet, it is that there is a pervasive superiority toward those who admit to eating these kinds of things.

My stance on this as mentioned already is that fair enough someone eats one curly wurly (or insert treat here) a week (it helps people stay on track with their diet by making cravings more managable which is a good thing) but we have to point out that a curly wurly is a sh1t nutritional food source. Not only is it calorie dense for its size it is also mainly sugar and saturated fat. If people can avoid eating them they should.

So the message is:
Are treats ok? yes, every now and then but avoid them if you can because they generally have a terrible nutritional profile

neuro-praxis · 04-10-2007 12:04PM

Well Vegeta I am with you there for sure.

davyjose · 05-10-2007 12:49AM

neuro-praxis wrote:

Actually, davyjose did.

I ain't got no beef with g'em. (just peanutbutter)

Woah woah woah!!! Seriously, Neuro-praxis, your overt defensiveness of my comment is a little OTT, as is manipulating a comment I made on a completely different thread with completely different subject matter. The simple fact of the matter is this - a Curly-Wurly is not a healthy snack, and to refer to it as such is, IMO, not ideal, especially given that you are a mod and people will take your advice.

Really, I'd appreciate, in future, if you have an issue with anything I say, to PM me, rather than misquote me on two different threads, whilst I am not online.
You seem to have taken to heart, and perhaps misinterpretted what I said. There is no "pervasive superiority" about what I said. I merely alluded to a comment you made previously:

neuro-praxis wrote:

I find it hard to believe that when you're on the bus and hungry between meals, you're snacking on a boiled potato, a can of beans or a jar of home-made spag bol.

The point I was making was, if you want to eat healthy, and there's nothing at hand, then wait and go get something that is healthy. I wasn't saying "Jaysus, what are you eating that for?"

This is boards.ie, and we've all been around long enough to know we're not gonna agree on everything. But comments like this

don't tell me not to eat my fu*king curly wurly if you're off for a big fat cheeseburger and chilli fries!

aren't necessary.

neuro-praxis · 05-10-2007 01:17PM

If we are going to discuss fairness davyjose, the above comment sure looks a whole lot more harsh when you cut the large smiley face off of the end of it!

davyjose · 05-10-2007 06:06PM

Well the smiley face didn't mean much to me when I saw it. Look, there's a few crossed wires here, and we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot here, so maybe we can start again, because I'm intersted in this forum and will probably be on quite a bit (unless I get banned

) <Tentatively extends hand>

jilli · 05-10-2007 09:36PM

hi there My name is Jillian I was on the beaut.ie site for lipotrim diet and vhi but both sites have stopped so does anyone know of a site where I could relate to other lipotrimmers ?

g'em · 05-10-2007 09:47PM

jilli wrote:

hi there My name is Jillian I was on the beaut.ie site for lipotrim diet and vhi but both sites have stopped so does anyone know of a site where I could relate to other lipotrimmers ?

It won't be here unfortunately Jillian. We support healthy, balanced diets not faddy ones.

Good luck in your weight-loss endeavors.

neuro-praxis · 05-10-2007 09:49PM

davyjose, if I may quote Ralph Wiggum, "Let's Bee Friends! It says "Bee" and there's a picture of a bee on it!"

You will understand that I am not some pleb who believes chocolate is the way to weight-loss. I will understand that you are not a food nazi who wishes to snatch my Curly Wurly from me of a Friday elevenses. Harmony restored. (May I point out that I had been through that argument at least 5 times since I posted the original comment and unfortunately for you you received my wrath on it - sorry!)

Jillian, boards.ie does not endorse Liptrim nor will we direct you to any sites recommending similar weight loss programmes. Any more posts of this nature and you shall be booted from the forum. Thanks and goodnight.

jilli · 05-10-2007 10:07PM

apologies My understanding was I would find an alternative site. Happy not to return to this site. for those who say LT is "faddy diets" It gave me my results of losing 2 stone thank you very much so thank you. Goodnight and good bye.

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