2007/2008 First Years

ninebeanrows · 16-09-2007 06:52PM

Ibid wrote:

You'll be charged the administration fee of €65 afaik.

Yea well it says on the leaflet you have to do it 10 working days before registration, i have done it 10 working days before the first Monday and my registration ain't until Friday evening (5th) so i should be okay

Crash · 17-09-2007 09:16AM

if you pay by the bank giro you could probably still get away with not paying the extra bit, as they really haven't a clue when you went to lodge it, so don't penalise anyone :P

JC 2K3 · 17-09-2007 05:42PM

Ok, I went to the Treasurer's Office today and got the form, then I arrive home to see the letter waiting for me....

They only sent it on the 13th.....

Dave Larkin · 18-09-2007 12:08AM

Welcome to Trinity, freshers. Trust me, you'll have a good time. One piece of advice I have for you is not to give away all your small change in Fresher's Week joining society after society. I joined about ten and attended a total of zero. I would, however, join the Phil and the Hist to avail of certain luxuries (such as discounts on snooker games) among other things.

Anyway, forgive the rant. Enjoy it.

Nehpets · 18-09-2007 12:12AM

oh, is there a snooker hall/tables on campus?

mathew · 18-09-2007 12:18AM

Starting Engineering in October. Looking forward to it. Have heard many good things!
Not overly excited about the chemistry, but I'm sure I'll manage. Most likely gonna go for electronic in third year.
Also considering doing the thing where you spend 3rd and 5th year in France.
Anyone any experience in it??
Is it true that Engineers get a Maths degree after 3rd year?

Time Magazine · 18-09-2007 12:20AM

Nehpets wrote:

oh, is there a snooker hall/tables on campus?

Yes, in the GMB. A building you'll become familiar with after about eight seconds as a student.

shay_562 · 18-09-2007 12:22AM

oh, is there a snooker hall/tables on campus?

On the third floor of the GMB (big Gothic-y looking building just off Front Square) there are 6 snooker tables run by the Hist and the Phil. If you're a member of either society, I think the rates are something like €6 an hour.

Gallardo · 18-09-2007 12:26AM

getting nervous and excited about tp. I just want 2 start now 2 c what its like. Can some1 tell me about tp in trinity please. If any1 wants 2 talk about it plz do so. oh and is there any gd places 4 locking bikes on the tcd grounds

Boston · 18-09-2007 08:07AM

Ibid wrote:

Yes, in the GMB. A building you'll become familiar with after about eight seconds as a student.

bah, only set foot in the place twice. Too high a concentration of ****.

ApeXaviour · 18-09-2007 10:59AM

Gallardo wrote:

getting nervous and excited about tp. I just want 2 start now 2 c what its like. Can some1 tell me about tp in trinity please. If any1 wants 2 talk about it plz do so. oh and is there any gd places 4 locking bikes on the tcd grounds

Please don't use text typing, it's difficult to read and unnecessary to use.

18-09-2007 12:19PM

Welcome!

mathew wrote:

Starting Engineering in October. Looking forward to it. Have heard many good things!
Not overly excited about the chemistry, but I'm sure I'll manage. Most likely gonna go for electronic in third year.
Also considering doing the thing where you spend 3rd and 5th year in France.
Anyone any experience in it??

I know a good few people who went away and they didn't really enjoy it. It's great being away and everything, but I know a few people who went over and failed the year. It's supposed to be a very tough year. I don't know anyone who went back for the 5th year in France though.

Is it true that Engineers get a Maths degree after 3rd year?

You're entitled to an Ordinary BA after 3 years; as for whether it's a maths degree is another question. It's undenominated, and I think that it used to be a BA in Mathematics but is no longer.

You get it if you drop out after 3 years or when you complete the BAI degree.

If you've any more questions on the course feel free to ask. Oh, and my view on the year in France is at least two years out of date, so it may have changed.

Sir Ophiuchus · 18-09-2007 01:14PM

Hey all. I'm what my friends call a "reFresher".

I've spent the last two years doing Science. I was pretty good at it, but it really wasn't what I wanted or enjoyed doing, so I've finally managed to transfer into JF English and Psychology, starting this October.

In Halls as well, for my third year.

Incidentally, what's with all the English/Psychology hate? Is there something I should know?

Any advice from people who've done this course before?

SamHamilton · 18-09-2007 01:28PM

JF English and Psychology

That's what I'll be doing. Cool.

what's with all the English/Psychology hate? Is there something I should know

Most people here seem to be science heads. They can't understand the appeal of subjects like English, psychology, the arts in general - subjects in which there are no concrete answers. It's strange considering you've spent two years studying science and that my second choice on the CAO was maths.

Time Magazine · 18-09-2007 01:35PM

SamHamilton wrote:

Most people here seem to be science heads. They can't understand the appeal of subjects like English, psychology, the arts in general - subjects in which there are no concrete answers.

Don't worry, you'll be based in the Arts Block and Áras an Phiarsaigh, well away from those dirty Science heads.

Sir Ophiuchus · 18-09-2007 01:48PM

Except, y'know, the ex-Science-head sitting in the class with him.

ApeXaviour · 18-09-2007 02:28PM

Sir Ophiuchus wrote:

Incidentally, what's with all the English/Psychology hate? Is there something I should know?

First I've heard of it, and I've been a science end student here for 5 years. Maybe you're mistaking it for that bloodsucking, drain on society, only view college as a stepping stone to work in dawddy's company, BOPS and w@nkers course BESS.

JC 2K3 · 18-09-2007 02:48PM

SamHamilton wrote:

Most people here seem to be science heads. They can't understand the appeal of subjects like English, psychology, the arts in general - subjects in which there are no concrete answers. It's strange considering you've spent two years studying science and that my second choice on the CAO was maths.

I can't recall reading any (genuinely) hateful comments towards "the arts in general" on this board.

I personally love reading and creative writing, but I hated having English taught to me(It should be like, a journey of self discovery, maaaaaaaaan....).

SamHamilton · 18-09-2007 03:22PM

I hated having English taught to me(It should be like, a journey of self discovery, maaaaaaaaan....).

Ditto:D

I can't recall reading any (genuinely) hateful comments towards "the arts in general" on this board

I can't either but I did encounter this:

English and Psychology? Ewww

Really hurt my feelings.:rolleyes:

Don't worry, you'll be based in the Arts Block and Áras an Phiarsaigh, well away from those dirty Science heads.

I have nothing against science people. If it wasn't for them I wouldn't be able to listen to Bloc Party on my iPod.;)
Plus I'm a bit of a science nerd. Well, a maths nerd. Agscience was my only LC science subject:eek: but I've always held science and maths close to my aortic valve.

ApeXaviour · 18-09-2007 05:20PM

SamHamilton wrote:

I can't either but I did encounter this:

English and Psychology? Ewww

Really hurt my feelings.:rolleyes:

And odd one alright, but now you know how us physicists feel...

Boston · 18-09-2007 05:37PM

Theres more hatred towards the bess heads. If it wasn't for the arts students most engineers wouldn't get laid. We'll bar the therapy students...

shay_562 · 18-09-2007 08:24PM

ApeXaviour wrote:

Maybe you're mistaking it for that bloodsucking, drain on society, only view college as a stepping stone to work in dawddy's company, BOPS and w@nkers course BESS.

It's true. We're awful, awful people, and should be killed.

wowy · 19-09-2007 02:01AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibid
Yes, in the GMB. A building you'll become familiar with after about eight seconds as a student.

bah, only set foot in the place twice. Too high a concentration of ****.

Maybe you're mistaking it for that bloodsucking, drain on society, only view college as a stepping stone to work in dawddy's company, BOPS and w@nkers course BESS.

Sigh. Sucks to be me.

Time Magazine · 19-09-2007 09:23AM

wowy wrote:

Sigh. Sucks to be me.

It's okay wowy, not all BESS students are bad. It's really only the Business stude... nevermind.

By the way, you mis-quoted me. High concentration of **** or not, I've slept in the GMB more than twice. (Once for over four hours.)

Pet · 19-09-2007 04:01PM

Most people here seem to be science heads. They can't understand the appeal of subjects like English, psychology, the arts in general - subjects in which there are no concrete answers. It's strange considering you've spent two years studying science and that my second choice on the CAO was maths.

There are no concrete answers in science, either. Maybe you're being a tad myopic and thinking only of the Freshman years [and yes, I will concede that there is a lot of rote-learning involved at that stage], but that's because every student needs to be brought up to the same level of general scientific education. In the Sophister years, you're given a lot more autonomy in what and how you study; the focus is more on the depth of your understanding and the angle and contexts of your learning, and less on one's ability to spout definitions.

And, I'm sure I don't speak for the majority of my peers, but I can certainly understand the appeal of the arts and humanities--I, like Sir Ophiuchus above, considered [at serious length] a transfer into English & Psychology.

It wasn't an easy decision, but I chose to stick with science, because I managed to claw my way out of the apathy my classmates seem to have for science and scholarship in general, and because I find it rewarding, albeit not so immediately.

So, not all science students lack the capacity for nuanced learning--they may just hold different priorities to you. And most of the Arts vs Science rivalry is simply idle tribalism, in case you were wondering.

ApeXaviour · 19-09-2007 04:08PM

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arts students.

wowy · 19-09-2007 06:37PM

Ibid wrote:

It's okay wowy, not all BESS students are bad. It's really only the Business stude... nevermind.

By the way, you mis-quoted me. High concentration of **** or not, I've slept in the GMB more than twice. (Once for over four hours.)

Sorry that was me quoting Boston (his point was rather strange I thought, in that he condemns all in the GMB as a shower of w*ankers, but has only been in there twice-hardly sufficient time to make judgements of all of us?) who was quoting you, and it got very messy. Need to learn how to use them quote tags properly.

19-09-2007 06:58PM

ApeXaviour wrote:

I arts students.

Don't lie...

And Ibid is right.. the Business/Jargon Studies school is really quite awful, only matched by those in the political science department!

mathew · 19-09-2007 07:33PM

Myth wrote:

You're entitled to an Ordinary BA after 3 years; as for whether it's a maths degree is another question. It's undenominated, and I think that it used to be a BA in Mathematics but is no longer.

You get it if you drop out after 3 years or when you complete the BAI degree.

If you've any more questions on the course feel free to ask. Oh, and my view on the year in France is at least two years out of date, so it may have changed.

When you say undenominated does that mean i can chose what the degree is in or is it just a BA in nothing particular.
Also, can it be upgraded to an honours degree or is it only an ordinary degree?

19-09-2007 07:51PM

Ordinary BA in nothing in particular I think. I'll let you know when I get mine in November

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You get an Honours Degree (the BAI) assuming you did well enough so there's no need for the Honours BA. However, after you graduate 3 years you can upgrade it to an MA for a small fee (think it's around €500 or so). If you do this and then go on to do another masters though, you'll find that you won't be able to obtain grants/tax relief on the masters so it might be an idea to do a 'real' masters first.

2007/2008 First Years

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