Car Free Day not be taken seriously

DarkJager · 11-09-2007 10:55AM #1

Link: http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhcwqlmhkfcw/

The Article wrote:

However, Mr Gormley says he is determined to see Car Free Day being taken as seriously in Ireland as the rest of Europe.

He says he wants more streets closed to traffic and also wants to see the event taking place on a weekday, when the lack of traffic would be more noticeable.

Yeah what a great idea to have it on a weekday - I'm sure the rush hour commuters would love that.

Car Free day is one of the most stupidly conceived ideas ever. What difference does it make, other than letting pedestrians walk on the roads and driving motorists blood pressure through the roof?

I don't know about the rest of Ireland, but here in Limerick its always been badly planned and badly implemented. It causes tailbacks all around the city, adds at least 30 minutes onto what should be a short journey and for what??? What does it hope to achieve??

rivers · 11-09-2007 10:58AM

well maybe they could do a day on which you're not allowed drive unless you have say at least 2 passengers? On the day they should increase public transport availabililty. I think its a good idea anyway. Some people use cars way too much, especially in instances like to go 100 metres down the road to buy a pack of cigs or something.

On a similar point. A congestion charge for bringing cars into the city centre should be brought in (like London).

Stephen · 11-09-2007 11:05AM

Car free day is a load of bollocks in this country where local public transport is pretty much non existent outside of Dublin. It would be impossible for me to get to my workplace without a car or motorbike. I can't just hop on a bus.

Rob_l · 11-09-2007 11:07AM

Im in full support of a car free day

get offa my streets you moany car driving bakstardds

thefinalstage · 11-09-2007 11:07AM

rivers wrote:

well maybe they could do a day on which you're not allowed drive unless you have say at least 2 passengers? On the day they should increase public transport availabililty. I think its a good idea anyway. Some people use cars way too much, especially in instances like to go 100 metres down the road to buy a pack of cigs or something.

On a similar point. A congestion charge for bringing cars into the city centre should be brought in (like London).

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I think you get the message.

Rob_l · 11-09-2007 11:07AM

rivers wrote:

well maybe they could do a day on which you're not allowed drive unless you have say at least 2 passengers? On the day they should increase public transport availabililty. I think its a good idea anyway. Some people use cars way too much, especially in instances like to go 100 metres down the road to buy a pack of cigs or something.

On a similar point. A congestion charge for bringing cars into the city centre should be brought in (like London).

I agree citys centres are no place for cars congestion charges are the 2ay forward

Dyr · 11-09-2007 11:19AM

Lets get serious about this whole premise. Lets rename it "car fire day"

Orlee · 11-09-2007 11:21AM

Stephen wrote:

Car free day is a load of bollocks in this country where local public transport is pretty much non existent outside of Dublin. It would be impossible for me to get to my workplace without a car or motorbike. I can't just hop on a bus.

Agreed - Make public transport more efficient, actually scrap that.
Make it efficient in the first place and then you can take away our cars for a day

bushy... · 11-09-2007 11:22AM

Should introduce park&ride instead of annoying everyone.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-09-2007 11:39AM

Damn right its not taken serious.

Listen, between myself and the other half our car's are worth in excess of €60k, plus approx €1400 a year on road tax so damn right we're not leaving that lot sitting in our garden just to satisfy a shower of fvcking hippies.

:mad:

Wossack · 11-09-2007 11:45AM

Cool idea, I'd love a free car!

TPD · 11-09-2007 11:45AM

Shower of hippies - nice. I think a 'bicycle day' would be a good idea in a large town or city though, as it would enable people to still get around while cutting them evil pollutants for a while.

koneko · 11-09-2007 11:49AM

Stephen wrote:

Car free day is a load of bollocks in this country where local public transport is pretty much non existent outside of Dublin. It would be impossible for me to get to my workplace without a car or motorbike. I can't just hop on a bus.

QFT, and even within Dublin the public transport is poor IMO

jhegarty · 11-09-2007 11:49AM

rivers wrote:

well maybe they could do a day on which you're not allowed drive unless you have say at least 2 passengers? On the day they should increase public transport availabililty. I think its a good idea anyway. Some people use cars way too much, especially in instances like to go 100 metres down the road to buy a pack of cigs or something.

On a similar point. A congestion charge for bringing cars into the city centre should be brought in (like London).

How do I get to work , there is no bus route ?

DarkJager · 11-09-2007 11:52AM

And what about people that live outside the city, where there possibly isn't public transport at regular times during the day? Its basically a day designed by the ****ing tree huggers to "save the world". Well guess what you tree hugging bastards, the world is ****ed as it is, and one day without cars on the road isn't going to do ****. Get used to that and stop pissing everyone off with your wanky ideas.

mikemac · 11-09-2007 11:56AM

It fails due to selfishness.
People think: "Great, it's car free day so they're be less traffic. Now I'll definitly take my car in the city centre"

Next time you walk past a long queue of traffic, I'd say >75% have less then two people in the car.

If you want to bring a car into the city centre you lose the right to moan about traffic.

50cc mopeds ftw

Rob_l · 11-09-2007 11:56AM

the world is f8cked no point in trying anything! eh

what a smhuck

one man cant make a difference! eh

that fatalist bullcrap is whats wrong with the world

humanji · 11-09-2007 12:00PM

jhegarty wrote:

How do I get to work , there is no bus route ?

Teleport?

Rob_l wrote:

the world is f8cked no point in trying anything! eh

what a smhuck

one man cant make a difference! eh

that fatalist bullcrap is whats wrong with the world

So do you mind telling us how it is actually meant to help? And while you're at it, explain how all the people with no local public transport, are supposed to get to work if the can't use their cars?

kdouglas · 11-09-2007 12:04PM

in fairness, most people who drive to work do so for a reason, whether it be lack of public transport or just not wanting to sit (stand more likely) on a smelly bus with alot of smelly people, i enjoy driving my own car to work and the freedom it gives me, especially when public transport is so bad in dublin.

However, I do feel that driving a car which is capable of carrying 4/5 people and being the only one in it is an awful waste of space, so i would definitely encourage a car pooling day, and in the long term, i think open the bus lane to car pools, this would mean more people sharing a car and less cars on the road.

Slow Motion · 11-09-2007 12:04PM

DarkJager wrote:

And what about people that live outside the city, where there possibly isn't public transport at regular times during the day? Its basically a day designed by the ****ing tree huggers to "save the world". Well guess what you tree hugging bastards, the world is ****ed as it is, and one day without cars on the road isn't going to do ****. Get used to that and stop pissing everyone off with your wanky ideas.

Squire if it upsets you this much just ignore it ! However I don't drive and never will but I pretty much agree with you, and my advice to those thinking of leaving the car at home, bear in mind that in the a.m. you will get to share the bus with a bunch of smelly loud teenagers jumping around the bus on the way to school and screaming abuse out the windows at AAAannnnnttoooooow and KYLEEEEEee ! Great stuff ! And on the way home you can battle your way onto the bus to sit upstairs where some even smellier skangers will be playing the bananna phone ringtone on speaker at full volume so even the driver can hear how cool they are, while one of them rolls a spliff that could choke a hippo giving anyone who looks a stare that says, "Go on I phuckin dare ya to say something ! I have a syringe full of blood in my pocket !".

Sure who wouldn't want to leave the care at home to experience such pleasent encounters !

Rob_l · 11-09-2007 12:06PM

Slow Motion wrote:

Squire if it upsets you this much just ignore it ! However I don't drive and never will but I pretty much agree with you, and my advice to those thinking of leaving the car at home, bear in mind that in the a.m. you will get to share the bus with a bunch of smelly loud teenagers jumping around the bus on the way to school and screaming abuse out the windows at AAAannnnnttoooooow and KYLEEEEEee ! Great stuff ! And on the way home you can battle your way onto the bus to sit upstairs where some even smellier skangers will be playing the bananna phone ringtone on speaker at full volume so even the driver can hear how cool they are, while one of them rolls a spliff that could choke a hippo giving anyone who looks a stare that says, "Go on I phuckin dare ya to say something ! I have a syringe full of blood in my pocket !".

Sure who wouldn't want to leave the care at home to experience such pleasent encounters !

Interesting bus your getting there with blood filled syringe carrying joint smoking school kids.

Rob_l · 11-09-2007 12:08PM

kdouglas wrote:

in fairness, most people who drive to work do so for a reason, whether it be lack of public transport or just not wanting to sit (stand more likely) on a smelly bus with alot of smelly people, i enjoy driving my own car to work and the freedom it gives me, especially when public transport is so bad in dublin.

However, I do feel that driving a car which is capable of carrying 4/5 people and being the only one in it is an awful waste of space, so i would definitely encourage a car pooling day, and in the long term, i think open the bus lane to car pools, this would mean more people sharing a car and less cars on the road.

perhaps to say "most people who drive to work do so for a reason" would be valid but I think to take a broader view and say most people who drive do so for a needful reason would not be vaild

Slow Motion · 11-09-2007 12:13PM

Rob_l wrote:

Interesting bus your getting there with blood filled syringe carrying joint smoking school kids.

You quoted my post but didn't read it ! I made a distinction about schoolkids on the morning (shouting out the window), and Skangers on the way home (i.e. the evening, not kids !). And yes get any of the 40s to Finglas any workday evening after five p.m. and you can see what I mean !

CuLT · 11-09-2007 12:17PM

In fairness, public transport in this country, even within Dublin, sucks utter balls. The LUAS is pretty neat, shame it only serves a small percentage of the population.

Dublin Bus seem to operate on some magical, hidden timetable that only the drivers know about.
One bus I get is the "somewhere between a quarter past the hour and a quarter to the next hour", and that's getting it from the terminus.

Rob_l · 11-09-2007 12:17PM

Slow Motion wrote:

You quoted my post but didn't read it ! I made a distinction about schoolkids on the morning (shouting out the window), and Skangers on the way home (i.e. the evening, not kids !). And yes get any of the 40s to Finglas any workday evening after five p.m. and you can see what I mean !

but one bus does not a city make

I paraphrased your post my way;)

anyways thats finglas I wouldn't dare go there

Slow Motion · 11-09-2007 12:20PM

Rob_l wrote:

anyways thats finglas I wouldn't dare go there

You may or may not be joking but when it comes to infrastructure / regeneration / crime etc that's exactly the attitude of public planners and politicians ! And I know Pat Carey is the minister for drugs but he is a useless tool and is doing nothing useful that I can see !

Marksie · 11-09-2007 12:32PM

rivers wrote:

On the day they should increase public transport availabililty.

Have you ever used Irish Rail? They can't run what they have got.

Raiser · 11-09-2007 12:38PM

Every other country that has a car-free day does so in order to encourage people to use their public transport alternative. Which is fine. No problem there. Why not ?

Living in Limerick there is no public transport alternative available to me; All my public transport destined tax revenue seems to be poured into building the miniature Port Tunnel, two unconnected LUAS lines & putting 167,426 cones all over the M50. We don't even have bus shelters in Limerick; just 25 pi55ed off punters standing in the rain for a bus that will be 1 hour late and probably too full when it does get there - either that or no bus arrives for two hours and then 3 arrive all at once.

Ergo when tree-hugging moron-tards like John Gormley suggest that we should all leave our cars at home while he gets on with bulldozing the Hill of Tara; some people think its a grim joke and wish that they hadn't thrown the [BP/Shell/Texaco share buying] Green Party idiots the odd 4th preference in the polling booths in the hope of voting Bertie out on his corrupt arse.

W@nkers :rolleyes:

Kintarō Hattori · 11-09-2007 12:41PM

Mairt wrote:

Listen, between myself and the other half our car's are worth in excess of €60k, plus approx €1400 a year on road tax so damn right we're not leaving that lot sitting in our garden just to satisfy a shower of fvcking hippies.

:mad:

The price of your car is irrelevant.

humanji · 11-09-2007 12:47PM

eo980 wrote:

The price of your car is irrelevant.

It is when you pay for it.

dtwhaler · 11-09-2007 12:50PM

Rob_l wrote:

perhaps to say "most people who drive to work do so for a reason" would be valid but I think to take a broader view and say most people who drive do so for a needful reason would not be vaild

Surely driving to work is a valid reason ?? How else do you get from Navan to Leixlip for 7am ? Dont see many buses on that route ?? Dont say live closer to work with the house prices near Maynooth etc. Likewise there aint too many jobs in the Meath area to work it the other way. Then what if you need to get home/hopsital quickly. Again no buses, trains ........ dont even start to hint at taxi's with the price they charge.

Car Free Day not be taken seriously

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