Tenant who's always late with rent?!

danindublin · 2007-09-03 15:25:15

Just a quick one to see if anyone has been in the same boat. (possibly in the wrong section also) I rent a two bed apt in the cc and sublet one of my rooms to a guy who out of the past 6 months he's lived there has only once paid his rent on time. Last month it was 11 days late and this month I still havent seen a penny…

03-09-2007 04:25PM

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Just a quick one to see if anyone has been in the same boat. (possibly in the wrong section also)

I rent a two bed apt in the cc and sublet one of my rooms to a guy who out of the past 6 months he's lived there has only once paid his rent on time. Last month it was 11 days late and this month I still havent seen a penny (rent is due by the first of the month). On top of this I'm still owed for an ESB bill which I paid back in July! Every time I meet him I just seem to get an empty string of promises. At this stage I think its time to tuff him out. Am I a) to relax, sure twill be paid eventually or b) within my right to give him the boot?

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#2 03-09-2007 04:28PM

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Make him set up a standing order. That way, you get paid anyway and his bank account can go into a minus for all you care. He can deal with the bank.

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#3 03-09-2007 04:33PM

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Whole caboosh out the door,bag and baggage done an dusted.

Don't mess around OP, gate immediately.

Thats my advice.

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#4 03-09-2007 04:35PM

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Get rid of him and only give him back his deposit minus outstanding bills/rent.

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#5 03-09-2007 04:37PM

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demand post #2 under threats of post #3

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#6 03-09-2007 04:37PM

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My parents are going through the exact same thing with tenants we've got.
The have to be the worst EVER!
Rent has never been on time and we've heard every excuse in the book at this stage.
The sick part is that they can legally stay for 6 months rent free if we decide to evict them.
:mad:

Ps. meant to say you're well within your right to get rid.. another landlord would feck him out at the first hint of trouble..I think you've gone very easy on him.
Has he signed an tenancy agreement?

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#7 03-09-2007 04:40PM

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Just warn him that you throw him out, even though I don't see the problem, you still get it.

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#8 03-09-2007 04:41PM

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This should be here no ?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=38

Anyway ! What the others said turf him out minus his deposit !

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#9 03-09-2007 04:41PM

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If you had a proper lease, none of this would crop up as you'd know exactly what your rights would be as the landlord.

Unless of course you're not declaring the income...

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#10 03-09-2007 04:44PM

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bronte wrote:

My parents are going through the exact same thing with tenants we've got.
The have to be the worst EVER!
Rent has never been on time and we've heard every excuse in the book at this stage.
The sick part is that they can legally stay for 6 months rent free if we decide to evict them.
:mad:

Ps. meant to say you're well within your right to get rid.. another landlord would feck him out at the first hint of trouble..I think you've gone very easy on him.
Has he signed an tenancy agreement?

That can't be right, can it? Could you of misunderstood something, in that it's only if there's no grounds for eviction, or something?

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#11 03-09-2007 04:46PM

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Sh*t in his bed.

It will make you feel better.

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#12 03-09-2007 04:48PM

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chopperbyrne wrote:

Make him set up a standing order. That way, you get paid anyway and his bank account can go into a minus for all you care. He can deal with the bank.

does it though?

I thought if the money isn't there, a standing order doesn't go.

That's why you would have to setup an overdraft if you want to be able to into the red?

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#13 03-09-2007 04:49PM

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You mean that fact that they can stay for 6 months humanji?

I will check and make sure, but as far as I understand, they can claim they have nowhere else to go and stay for that time period.
The law very much protects the tenant
Will double check though

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#14 03-09-2007 04:50PM

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Maybe some banks are like that. I'm with Permanent TSB and any standing orders or direct debits will come out and then the bank charge me about €5 when I'm in the green again.

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#15 03-09-2007 04:51PM

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bronte: To the best of my knowledge you can kicked someone out in a week if you can prove that ur property is at risk by that person being there.

mikedragon32: AFASK, the rent thats being paid to me is under the threshold for declaration as it is my primary residence

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#16 03-09-2007 04:57PM

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It's fairly normal.

I've been subletting a room in the apartment I live in for 6 years. Only two tenants out of six ever made any effort to pay their rent on time. The others waited for me to remind them, or blamed the bank, or some other ****.

Humans are stupid, emotional creatures and most are terrifically selfish.

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#17 03-09-2007 04:57PM

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Let this farce continue if you like getting rode up the arse, if you find getting rode up the arse a bit intrusive then tell him to get the fcuk out.

It all depends on your feelings of arse riding to be honest.

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#18 03-09-2007 05:01PM

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Seriously, get rid of him. It's not worth the hassle. I'm in the process of getting rid of my tenant now. My bf and I share our apartment with her. We've been miserable about for the last 8 months and have only just done something about it. She's leaving in 2 weeks. Basically she was bringing strange men home at 4am on a weeknight and they were smashing up the sitting room and waking us up about 3 nights a week, and we both work 9-5 jobs. She was having friends over and smoking, leaving an ashtray out in the sitting room when it is strictly a non-smoking apartment and the place would reek of smoke, including all our furniture. She also hated sharing the sitting room and would plonk herself down and lie full length on the couch so we couldn't fit and watch crappy tv all night. She had no respect for us. It sounds like your tenant is the same. He just doesn't give a ****. i feel like a weight is off my shoulders now she's leaving. Don't live with someone like that. There's a shortage of accommodation out there, you'll get someone else to take it no probs. If he's no lease you can just ask him to leave.

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#19 03-09-2007 05:01PM

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Thanks dan, didn't know that.
I'm not sure we could prove the property is in any kinda of danger though.
These people really tick me off..we have to pay the bloomin mortgage on the place and they don't care if it's out of our pocket instead of the rent money.

I myself can't stand that feeling of being in debt to anyone..even if it's a fiver I borrowed off a friend , I'll always pay in back.

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#20 03-09-2007 05:03PM

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chopperbyrne wrote:

Maybe some banks are like that. I'm with Permanent TSB and any standing orders or direct debits will come out and then the bank charge me about €5 when I'm in the green again.

wow, I've never being in the green before.

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#21 03-09-2007 05:03PM

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Haven't read all the replies, but if he's been there more than 6 months it'll be nearly impossible to get rid of him. You have to be selling the apartment or getting a family member to move in...

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#22 03-09-2007 05:04PM

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danindublin wrote:

bronte: To the best of my knowledge you can kicked someone out in a week if you can prove that ur property is at risk by that person being there.

Not true.

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#23 03-09-2007 05:06PM

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monkeyfudge wrote:

Sh*t in his bed.

It will make you feel better.

Very helpful!!!!

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#24 03-09-2007 05:18PM

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monkeyfudge wrote:

Sh*t in his bed.

It will make you feel better.

Hell yeah. And widdle on his towels.

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#25 03-09-2007 05:19PM

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danindublin wrote:

Just a quick one to see if anyone has been in the same boat. (possibly in the wrong section also)

I rent a two bed apt in the cc and sublet one of my rooms to a guy who out of the past 6 months he's lived there has only once paid his rent on time. Last month it was 11 days late and this month I still havent seen a penny (rent is due by the first of the month). On top of this I'm still owed for an ESB bill which I paid back in July! Every time I meet him I just seem to get an empty string of promises. At this stage I think its time to tuff him out. Am I a) to relax, sure twill be paid eventually or b) within my right to give him the boot?

Tell him that you're being evicted for non-payment of rent. If that doesn't make any difference to him, he's obviously incurable.

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#26 03-09-2007 05:24PM

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Orlee wrote:

Very helpful!!!!

Its AfterHours luv

Just fart on his pillow (bare bum) and he'll get pink eye from the shit particles! I saw it in Knocked Up so it must be true.

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#27 03-09-2007 05:30PM

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If you're subletting, then the other tenant has no agreement with the landlord, meaning that you can turf him out without notice. He's essentially a lodger under your roof. Lodger's rights and tenants rights are a million miles apart.

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#28 03-09-2007 05:33PM

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6th!! that's a mental image that will haunt me forever! :eek:

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#29 03-09-2007 06:01PM

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First of all, this should be in the accommodation forum.

Second of all:

dublindude wrote:

Not true.

Sorry bud, true.
The length of notice depends on the length of the tenancy.
Length of tenancy -Notice by landlord
Less than 6 months -4 weeks (28 days)
6 months to a year -5 weeks (35 days)
1 – 2 years -6 weeks (42 days)
2 – 3 years -8 weeks (56 days)
3 – 4 years -12 weeks (84 days)
4 years or more -16 weeks (112 days)

Landlords can give less notice if the tenants are not keeping their obligations (28 days) or if there is serious anti-social behaviour (7 days). Anti-social behaviour includes violence, threats or intimidation as well as any persistent behaviour that interferes with neighbours.

Thirdly:

bronte wrote:

The law very much protects the tenant

My hole it does. Tenants rights in Ireland are so far behind the rest of Europe that its not even funny.

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#30 03-09-2007 08:31PM

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SimpleSam06 wrote:

Sorry bud, etc etc.

Wrong. You only copied and pasted the bits that suit your argument.

Those notice periods ONLY apply to the following -

* If the tenant does not comply with the obligations of the tenancy.
* If the property is no longer suited to the tenants’ needs (e.g. overcrowded).
* If the landlord needs the property for him/herself or for an immediate family member.
* If the landlord intends to sell the property.
* If the landlord intends to refurbish the property.
* If the landlord plans to change the business use of the property (e.g. turn it into offices).

None of them apply in this case.

Also, the tenant is not being seriously anti-social. Being late at paying your rent is not a valid reason to kick someone out.

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#31 03-09-2007 08:48PM

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watna wrote:

Seriously, get rid of him. It's not worth the hassle. I'm in the process of getting rid of my tenant now. My bf and I share our apartment with her. We've been miserable about for the last 8 months and have only just done something about it. She's leaving in 2 weeks. Basically she was bringing strange men home at 4am on a weeknight and they were smashing up the sitting room and waking us up about 3 nights a week, and we both work 9-5 jobs. She was having friends over and smoking, leaving an ashtray out in the sitting room when it is strictly a non-smoking apartment and the place would reek of smoke, including all our furniture. She also hated sharing the sitting room and would plonk herself down and lie full length on the couch so we couldn't fit and watch crappy tv all night. She had no respect for us. It sounds like your tenant is the same. He just doesn't give a ****. i feel like a weight is off my shoulders now she's leaving. Don't live with someone like that. There's a shortage of accommodation out there, you'll get someone else to take it no probs. If he's no lease you can just ask him to leave.

And she lasted 8 months!

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