Pighead Vs Iraq

Terry · 14-08-2007 06:34PM #1

indough wrote:

That's the real reason why coalition forces are in Iraq IMO, to stop the Iraqi genocide of it's own people, so what exactly is your point? I hope you weren't trying to connect the mass graves with anyone other than the Iraqi people themselves, because that would just be ridiculous. But of course the war is all about oil and nothing to do with defending our way of life.
As for not having a presence in Iraq, you're right, we don't. But if you fail to realize that they are fighting the war on the behalf of the entire western democratic world then I don't know what to tell you.

Hehe.
That cheered me right up.

Split from the mad maddie mega merge thread.

indough · 14-08-2007 06:38PM

Was that sarcasm or agreement now?

indough · 14-08-2007 08:02PM

I notice the kid who was 'looking to buy a tank' a while back deleted his wonderful contribution to the thread.

Orange69 · 14-08-2007 08:44PM

indough wrote:

As for not having a presence in Iraq, you're right, we don't. But if you fail to realize that they are fighting the war on the behalf of the entire western democratic world then I don't know what to tell you.

What the hell are you on about? I bet if Ireland was sitting on a few trillion barrels of oil and wasn't forthcoming with it they would be exporting some democracy over here..

Just out of interest why do you think they are fighting the "war" over there?

indough · 14-08-2007 09:05PM

Orange69 wrote:

What the hell are you on about? I bet if Ireland was sitting on a few trillion barrels of oil and wasn't forthcoming with it they would be exporting some democracy over here..

Just out of interest why do you think they are fighting the "war" over there?

Have I been unclear in anything i've said then or do you have some form of visual impairment that stops you from being able to read my posts?

This whole anti-US thing has been played out, its a cliche, you need to find some new material for your jokes.

If you really think that the coalition forces are going about things the wrong way then why don't you take it upon yourself to go over to Iraq in an unarmed capacity and talk peacefully with some militia members. I guarantee that the parts of you they find will be shipped back home in a body bag.

Of course I forgot the war was all about oil. Global politics really are just that simple. It's just like, i'll go to the cupboard to find some food, if there's not enough there to last me for the next year then i'll break into my neighbours house, murder them then steal their food.

Why not ask yourself why would the US spend up to $4,000 a day per soldier to support their army in the desert for some oil, thats not to mention the cost of weaponry which probably amounts to more than they're making from the oil anyway, all the while they are losing men who could be back home working and supporting the economy, when they have a reserve in Alaska sufficient enough to support their entire country for over 100 years.

Aren't the energy companies the only ones benefitting from the oil there anyway? I suppose you probably believe that the US government is engaged in a great conspiracy with them though, all the while managing to somehow keep the people ignorant to the machinations of the upcoming new world order. Perhaps they're using mass mind control? Just to be sure you should probably stick on your tin-foil hat round about now.

Orange69 · 14-08-2007 09:10PM

indough wrote:

Have I been unclear in anything i've said then or do you have some form of visual impairment that stops you from being able to read my posts?

This whole anti-US thing has been played out, its a cliche, you need to find some new material for your jokes.

If you really think that the coalition forces are going about things the wrong way then why don't you take it upon yourself to go over to Iraq in an unarmed capacity and talk peacefully with some militia members. I guarantee that the parts of you they find will be shipped back home in a body bag.

Of course I forgot the war was all about oil. Global politics really are just that simple. It's just like, i'll go to the cupboard to find some food, if there's not enough there to last me for the next year then i'll break into my neighbours house, murder them then steal their food.

Why not ask yourself why would the US spend up to $4,000 a day per soldier to support their army in the desert for some oil, thats not to mention the cost of weaponry which probably amounts to more than they're making from the oil anyway, all the while they are losing men who could be back home working and supporting the economy, when they have a reserve in Alaska sufficient enough to support their entire country for over 100 years.

Aren't the energy companies the only ones benefitting from the oil there anyway? I suppose you probably believe that the US government is engaged in a great conspiracy with them though, all the while managing to somehow keep the people ignorant to the machinations of the upcoming new world order. Perhaps they're using mass mind control? Just to be sure you should probably stick on your tin-foil hat round about now.

Wipe the rabid foam from your chin and answer my question...

Why do you think they are fighting the "war" over there?

indough · 14-08-2007 09:23PM

I'd imagine its for a combination of reasons really:

a)Finishing the job they cocked up the last time
b)The disgusting human rights violations in the state of Iraq
c)Islamic extremism is the new communism
d)Islam and Christianity haven't always bedded well together
e)Saddam tried to kill George dubya Bush's daddy
f)Islamic terrorist attacks on the US, didn't you get the memo?

I guess the oil is part of the reason, but it's definitely not as cut and dry as you believe. Remember that the money spent on war would have been much more beneficial to the US oil reserve if it had been spent on resource exploration. If I can realize this then you can be pretty sure that some advisor to the US government will have too.

Now is that good enough for you or should I type in braille?

Terry · 14-08-2007 09:38PM

indough wrote:

I'd imagine its for a combination of reasons really:

a)Finishing the job they cocked up the last time

Not a good enough reason to destabilise world peace.

b)The disgusting human rights violations in the state of Iraq

The death sentence in the U.S. and Guantanamo bay where prisoners have no rights.

c)Islamic extremism is the new communism

Green is the new blue.
Seriously, that just bollox.

d)Islam and Christianity haven't always bedded well together

Do you know anything about the crusades? I suggest you look it up if you don't. This is not a reason to go to war.

e)Saddam tried to kill George dubya Bush's daddy

That's because he ****ing invaded Iraq. What did he expect?

f)Islamic terrorist attacks on the US, didn't you get the memo?

I got the memo. The people involved were mostly from Saudi Arabia and were based out of Afghanistan.

I guess the oil is part of the reason, but it's definitely not as cut and dry as you believe. Remember that the money spent on war would have been much more beneficial to the US oil reserve if it had been spent on resource exploration. If I can realize this then you can be pretty sure that some advisor to the US government will have too.

Now is that good enough for you or should I type in braille?

You can type in whatever form you want. It won't make it true.

This war has nothing to do with Islam. It has to do with greed. Just like every war before it.

Pighead · 14-08-2007 09:45PM

Terry wrote:

Not a good enough reason to destabilise world peace.

The death sentence in the U.S. and Guantanamo bay where prisoners have no rights.

Green is the new blue.
Seriously, that just bollox.

Do you know anything about the crusades? I suggest you look it up if you don't. This is not a reason to go to war.

That's because he ****ing invaded Iraq. What did he expect?

I got the memo. The people involved were mostly from Saudi Arabia and were based out of Afghanistan.

You can type in whatever form you want. It won't make it true.

This war has nothing to do with Islam.

And nothing to do with Maddie. Warning to Terry for violently veering off topic. Unless you can prove that Maddy's in Iraq or is of the Islamic faith.

Mr. Presentable · 14-08-2007 09:46PM

Pighead wrote:

And nothing to do with Maddie. Warning to Terry for violently veering off topic. Unless you can prove that Maddy's in Iraq or is of the Islamic faith.

Hey Piggie, would you "do" Kate? I would

indough · 14-08-2007 09:54PM

Terry wrote:

Not a good enough reason to destabilise world peace.

I really think the guys in charge are a little more qualified to make that decision now in fairness!

Terry wrote:

The death sentence in the U.S. and Guantanamo bay where prisoners have no rights.

Hardly the same as killing thousands of their own people with VX gas now is it? Having said that I don't agree with their policy here

Terry wrote:

Do you know anything about the crusades? I suggest you look it up if you don't. This is not a reason to go to war.

Yes I do, i'm a qualified historian in fact. I don't have to lok too far back into history to realize that it was an Islamic group who declared jihad, however. I have nothing against the Muslim world, the stability of the freedoms we enjoy is my only concern in politics.

Terry wrote:

Green is the new blue.
Seriously, that just bollox.

Yeah that was just a lame joke tbh, sorry

Terry wrote:

That's because he ****ing invaded Iraq. What did he expect?

Because Iraq invaded Kuwait.

Terry wrote:

You can type in whatever form you want. It won't make it true.

This war has nothing to do with Islam. It has to do with greed. Just like every war before it.

Purely opinion

Why has noone bothered to answer my question from my previous post?

indough wrote:

Why not ask yourself why would the US spend up to $4,000 a day per soldier to support their army in the desert for some oil, thats not to mention the cost of weaponry which probably amounts to more than they're making from the oil anyway, all the while they are losing men who could be back home working and supporting the economy, when they have a reserve in Alaska sufficient enough to support their entire country for over 100 years.

In conclusion, I find it quite ironic that the latest poster child for the anti-war movement started a thread not long ago about getting a tattoo of an AK47. The mind boggles :rolleyes:

indough · 14-08-2007 09:56PM

Pighead wrote:

And nothing to do with Maddie. Warning to Terry for violently veering off topic. Unless you can prove that Maddy's in Iraq or is of the Islamic faith.

How dare you, don't you know that Maddie is involved in the higher echelons of an international conspiracy against the peace loving Iraqi militia?

Orange69 · 14-08-2007 10:12PM

indough wrote:

Yes I do, i'm a qualified historian in fact.

Woah!.. stand back everyone.. this guys packin' an arts degree..

Terry · 14-08-2007 10:14PM

indough wrote:

I really think the guys in charge are a little more qualified to make that decision now in fairness!

More qualified?
Not by much.
It's their advisers who are the more qualified ones.

Hardly the same as killing thousands of their own people with VX gas now is it? Having said that I don't agree with their policy here

So it's not right if they kill their own people, but it's ok if the coalition of the willing kill them?
You know, just in case they pick up a gun and start killing Americans.

Yes I do, i'm a qualified historian in fact. I don't have to lok too far back into history to realize that it was an Islamic group who declared jihad, however. I have nothing against the Muslim world, the stability of the freedoms we enjoy is my only concern in politics.

Yes, but it was the Christians who took the war to the Muslims.

Because Iraq invaded Kuwait.

China invaded Tibet.
Where was the coalition of the willing when that happened?[/QUOTE]

Kiith · 14-08-2007 10:15PM

So Pighead isnt actually going to go and fight international terrorism in the middle east? I'm telling you...he'd do a better job then anyone else has.

indough · 14-08-2007 10:16PM

Orange69 wrote:

Woah!.. stand back everyone.. this guys packin' an arts degree..

Do you really want to subject yourself to further embarrassment? I merely stated that because it was asked of me if I knew about the crusades.

I would ask you what it is you're packing, but then it doesn't really matter because you're firing blanks either way.

indough · 14-08-2007 10:20PM

Terry wrote:

Yes, but it was the Christians who took the war to the Muslims.

Did you sleep through September 11th?

Terry wrote:

China invaded Tibet.
Where was the coalition of the willing when that happened?

To send an invasion force up against a nation of potentially over a billion enemy combatants with nuclear capability would be foolish to say the least. Especially considering that they were closely allied with Soviet Russia, the US' greatest adversary at the time. They learned their lessons there from the mistakes of the Korean War.

Pighead · 14-08-2007 10:20PM

Kiith wrote:

So Pighead isnt actually going to go and fight international terrorism in the middle east? I'm telling you...he'd do a better job then anyone else has.

Too right buddy. And Pighead would do it all by himself as well. Just give me a headband and an AK 47 and Pighead shall become HAMBO.

Iraq.....I'm coming to get you.

Orange69 · 14-08-2007 10:21PM

Kiith wrote:

So Pighead isnt actually going to go and fight international terrorism in the middle east? I'm telling you...he'd do a better job then anyone else has.

No the theme of this thread is Indough (Who has an arts degree btw) versus the world..

Ill stop now before i get banned..

indough · 14-08-2007 10:25PM

Orange69 wrote:

No the theme of this thread is Indough (Who has an arts degree btw) versus the world..

Ill stop now before i get banned..

Hows that tattoo going for you, you great big peace lover you

By the way, I also have a degree in Software Engineering & Computer Networking (in which I achieved a distinction), an A+ Certificate and i'm a CCNP. If we want to go the whole hog then I also have a certificate in media studies, achieved high enough grades in my Leaving Cert, I workout at the Gym 4 days a week, and I produce music and study sound engineering in my spare time.

I don't really see why I should have to defend my educational achievements to some anonymous poster on an internet forum who can't win an argument based entirely on its own merits

Would you care to list your own achievements?

Kiith · 14-08-2007 10:31PM

God didn't make Pighead, I made him!

And i love these kind of threads. Always entertaining.

You Suck! · 14-08-2007 10:32PM

Did you sleep through September 11th?

Did you sleep through post soviet Afghanistan? And Might i ask if you slept through any lectures you may have received on contemporary middle eastern history?

The rise of wahibism, and its subsequent funding during the soviet/afghan of the conflict is the root of the current conflict and the troubles we as "the west"(:rolleyes: an ambiguous title if ever there was one) now perceive. In any case, Saudi has never been taken to task for its formenting of a violent form of islam that has usurped more moderate forms esp in the central asian republics. And further to that, when these extremists were perceived to be of use, the us and other's in "the west" were glad to bankroll them regardless of future implication, human rights or any of that other fluff "the west" pretends to hold dear. Of course as a historian you no doubt already know this.

In any case Pigheads interpretation holds truer.

Orange69 · 14-08-2007 10:42PM

indough wrote:

Hows that tattoo going for you, you great big peace lover you

By the way, I also have a degree in Software Engineering & Computer Networking (in which I achieved a distinction), an A+ Certificate and i'm a CCNP. If we want to go the whole hog then I also have a certificate in media studies, achieved high enough grades in my Leaving Cert, I workout at the Gym 4 days a week, and I produce music and study sound engineering in my spare time.

I don't really see why I should have to defend my educational achievements to some anonymous poster on an internet forum who can't win an argument based entirely on its own merits

Would you care to list your own achievements?

I have a BSc and and SSc...

Bronze swimming certificate
Silver swimming certificate

_blank_ · 14-08-2007 10:43PM

What the hell is up with this thread?

It just starts in the middle of an argument.

Very confusing.

Terry · 14-08-2007 10:45PM

indough wrote:

Did you sleep through September 11th?

I finished work early, watcxhed it unfold on tv and took an afternoon nap.

When I said the christians took the war to the muslims, I was referring to the crusades.

To send an invasion force up against a nation of potentially over a billion enemy combatants with nuclear capability would be foolish to say the least. Especially considering that they were closely allied with Soviet Russia, the US' greatest adversary at the time. They learned their lessons there from the mistakes of the Korean War.

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and sorry I could not travel both.

Down one road is a small guy whose ass I would easily kick. Down the other road is a gang of people who would kick my ass if I started anything.
I'm a bully, so I'll take the first road.

whiskeyman · 14-08-2007 10:46PM

Pighead wrote:

Unless you can prove that Maddy's in Iraq

She's hiding with the WMDs...

Terry · 14-08-2007 10:46PM

It was split from the mad maddie mega merge thread.
I should probably edit the first post to make that clear.

Orange69 · 14-08-2007 10:47PM

DesF wrote:

What the hell is up with this thread?

It just starts in the middle of an argument.

Very confusing.

Its a argumentative tangent from the mad maddie mega monster manic merge thread...

Orange69 · 14-08-2007 10:49PM

Terry wrote:

It was split from the mad maddie mega merge thread.
I should probably edit the first post to make that clear.

Be sure and mention Indough's credentials and that he studies sound engineering in his spare time!!

Ok seriously thats it, im done... Its too easy..

indough · 14-08-2007 10:57PM

Orange69 wrote:

Be sure and mention Indough's credentials and that he studies sound engineering in his spare time!!

Ok seriously thats it, im done... Its too easy..

What was easy, did I miss something? You were the one who started bringing up my credentials in a failed effort to be funny by bashing the arts degree, let's not forget. I only mentioned that I am a historian to make it clear that I wasn't basing my arguments on pure conjecture but actually had the knowledge to back it up.

indough · 14-08-2007 10:59PM

Terry wrote:

I finished work early, watcxhed it unfold on tv and took an afternoon nap.

When I said the christians took the war to the muslims, I was referring to the crusades.

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and sorry I could not travel both.

Down one road is a small guy whose ass I would easily kick. Down the other road is a gang of people who would kick my ass if I started anything.
I'm a bully, so I'll take the first road.

Yeah in primary school its known as bullying you're correct, I believe in this type of situation it's known as military tactics and strategy though.

Pighead Vs Iraq

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