Anyone else driven fvcking demented...

cooperguy · 23-07-2007 11:04AM

asti_mivec wrote:

Not a big poster at all, but while reading this I felt compelled to reply to enlighten some people who seem to love making generalisations about certain groups of people with little or no knowledge of what they are talking about.

Firstly, I agree with most in disliking people driving aggressively or dangerously especially in residential areas and so do not condone any of that. I don't particularly like the lairy, cap wearing, neon light sporting modified car thing but each to their own, as long as they don't offend other road users.

BUT, I don't really think that banning modified cars would solve a whole lot of problems, because there are plenty of other drivers who act like complete ignorant twats around our roads without falling into the above group. Plenty of people who think they own the road and who pay much less insurance and cause far more problems (to me anyway).

The second point I'd like to make is that there are an awful lot of people who drive "modified" cars that do not behave like that and who spend most of their time driving normally, using tracks for driving fast, but who still get treated with disdain by alot of other road users, and who the gardai love to hassle. I feel attitudes like those posted in this thread are giving plenty of good people who love cars a really bad name and maybe some people should be a bit better informed before devising such well thought out plans such as "ban all modified cars"!

Most of us pay well over the odds for insurance anyway, and abide by the law as much as the next person so just try to think before making such judgements...please.

Apologies for the long post btw.

I agree.

If you want to ban anything then it should be exausts that make noise over a certain decibel level.

MarkR · 23-07-2007 11:14AM

Modified car does not always mean boy racer. But some people just like sweeping generalisations I suppose. The loudest exhausts I hear are on motorbikes, but very few complaints on that for some reason. Actually, the very loudest one I heard was from a goldwing with loads of orange leds on it. Old fellah on it too.

In short, don't hate the game, hate the player.

My car isn't particularly modified right now, but I have some nice alloy wheels in the shed that I will be putting back on later, the windows are lightly tinted. Nothing strange and my insurance company was notified.

Some people drive like w*nkers, but try to learn a bit before you damn everyone.

Mrs_Doyle · 23-07-2007 11:35AM

I hate the nasty speed bumps even more then I hate the boy racers.

I dunno about anyone else, but when I'm driving through a residential estate that has loads of them I actually start to feel a bit after the third or fourth bump.

By the time I have climbed over the tenth speed bump I'm actually heaving.

I never suffered from car sickness before, but those yokes kill me.

thebman · 23-07-2007 11:51AM

cooperguy wrote:

I agree.

If you want to ban anything then it should be exausts that make noise over a certain decibel level.

There are laws against noise pollution and I'm sure it falls under that which is why a lot of those exhausts are probably illegal to use at night after certain hours (mostly the hours they are driving probably).

Canis Lupus · 23-07-2007 12:53PM

I try not to judge boyracers too harshly... I mean, everyone has a passion... Theirs is just.... Odd... I can't see the fascination of buying a ford fiesta and then adding bits to it and driving with the seat so far back that I can't understand how they see out the windscreen, take offs need to actually be take offs with so much rubber burnt and so on and so forth...

Back in my hometown in Kerry we have a high number of boyracers and we have one main street. At night they drive up the street..... 2 seconds later they drive the other way and then back again and so on and so forth for hours at a time and I'm just lost for words as to the point of it all....

But then, I suppose it keeps them off the streets..... err.....

blow69 · 23-07-2007 11:45PM

^^^That is all they do.Drive up and down or around the town.I can only assume they are cruising for other wasters to race with and endanger their lives!

magpie · 24-07-2007 04:34PM

the problem would be easily solved if the insurance companies or garda enforced the 'declare all modifications', especially engine mods, part of the policies. if you have a mod, you have no insurance, so you're done for it.

Bingo. I've been saying this for years. Just do a month long blitz, get them all up in court for driving without insurance (owing to undeclared mods), get them all off the road quick sharp.

lemansky · 24-07-2007 04:41PM

If the guards pull them over in their mod cars or catch them in the act of being prícks, they should just smash the windows in with their batons. It works and it shuts the scummers up fairly quickly. I winessed it once, and my god it was great! If they do that, then the message will slowly circulate-be a prick and face the consequences. Perhaps a tad harsh, but then again, they brought it on themselves, because after years of putting up with their crap, people are now sick of them.

There is a video of this on youtube,actually there was an argument about it here not so long ago.....i'll see if I can't find it.Thats how you deal with them.Once you overcome the do-gooders inevitable reaction to it, it works!

lemansky · 24-07-2007 04:43PM

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=BfotQEnQRLw

A bit of swearing

tallus · 24-07-2007 04:58PM

lemansky wrote:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=BfotQEnQRLw

A bit of swearing

Interesting Video, pity about the quality heh.

lemansky · 24-07-2007 05:01PM

I know, I would've liked to have been there! Fantastic atmosphere, you could just feel it.

tallus · 24-07-2007 06:08PM

lemansky wrote:

I know, I would've liked to have been there! Fantastic atmosphere, you could just feel it.

Pub07 · 24-07-2007 08:51PM

IF YOU MODIFY A PIECE OF SH1TE IT IS STILL A PIECE OF SH1TE. I get great satisfaction driving by these tools in my (unmoddified) beast of a machine knowing as they look on that their cars are a total joke and that them being scangers precludes them from ever owning a serious set of wheels.

MarkR · 24-07-2007 09:48PM

Pub07 wrote:

IF YOU MODIFY A PIECE OF SH1TE IT IS STILL A PIECE OF SH1TE. I get great satisfaction driving by these tools in my (unmoddified) beast of a machine knowing as they look on that their cars are a total joke and that them being scangers precludes them from ever owning a serious set of wheels.

And what if you modify a car that isn't a piece of shíte? One that was 10% beastier then yours but with nicer wheels, or a better stereo?

Btw, what do you drive? I'd be curious to know which beast of a car is eating all those skylines I see for breakfast?

Raiser · 24-07-2007 10:09PM

...........best I've seen was the twat that has two bits of hacksawed orange wavin pipe bolted to his front bumper - I think the plan was to "No More Nails" in fog lights later in his lifetime...........

arybvtcw0eolkf · 25-07-2007 12:13AM

MarkR wrote:

And what if you modify a car that isn't a piece of shíte? ?

Then you turn it into a piece of sh*te, simple.

Btw, just finished training tonight and got a phone call. A neighbour's dog was knocked down and killed by a fvck a$$ boy racer in a poxy Civic, so what you might ask...

Well this was in a cul-d-sac inside the estate and if it hadn' been a dog it could have easily been a child. I'd have choked the life out of the fvcker had I been there.

Another thing. If Nissan, Fiat, Toyota etc spend million's on research and development on a particular model, you think Anto or Jacinta can do a better and safer job with a few hundred Euro?..

Car modificaions, ie engine remapping, load exhausts, non-standard size wheels and tires etc should be illegal. I also believe a car radio should only be allowed play to a standard Db level, anything after which should be deemed to make the car unsafe to drive and so an illegal Mod.

Terry · 25-07-2007 12:20AM

FFS.
Just do what my neighbour does.
Boy racer boots it up the estate. Neighbour signals to him to pull over.
Neighbour pulls him out of the car through the rolled down tinted window. Neighbour hits him a few slaps and tells him never to come in her again. Boy racer tells all his friends what happened. No boy racers for a few more years.
Take note that there are a lot of children in my neighbourhood and these dicks doing 60mph up the road are putting the lives of those kids in danger.

ctc_celtic · 25-07-2007 01:03AM

modded cars will never be illegal, and thats a good thing. people have the right to add to there car and make it different.
but, non standard exhaust should be illegal, cause most are only bought to be a nuisance.
i have a magnex exhaust on my car, and its the quiets that i can get, however i would have no problem taking it off should the law change. ps. its declared on my insurance.

all this talk wont change chav's from driving like as3holes, which is what kills people, not the mods.

magpie · 25-07-2007 10:23AM

I also believe a car radio should only be allowed play to a standard Db level, anything after which should be deemed to make the car unsafe to drive and so an illegal Mod.

Correct.

people have the right to add to there car and make it different.

A Celtic Fan and a modified car driver? What are the odds?

furtzy · 25-07-2007 10:54AM

Mairt wrote:

Another thing. If Nissan, Fiat, Toyota etc spend million's on research and development on a particular model, you think Anto or Jacinta can do a better and safer job with a few hundred Euro?..

Agree totally. These muppets think that adding bigger wheels and a K&N air filter you gain 10's of bhp......they are absolute twats.

We should look at the New Zealand model where only modifications declared and agreed by qualified engineers are allowed....any else and you're off the road

Have a look here

http://www.aa.co.nz/motoring/practicalmotoringtips/Pages/Vehiclemodifications.aspx

layke · 25-07-2007 11:28AM

Pub07 wrote:

IF YOU MODIFY A PIECE OF SH1TE IT IS STILL A PIECE OF SH1TE. I get great satisfaction driving by these tools in my (unmoddified) beast of a machine knowing as they look on that their cars are a total joke and that them being scangers precludes them from ever owning a serious set of wheels.

I drive a modded Civic, would you call that a peice of sh1te? What do you drive? The reason why people buy civics is beacuse up to a 1.6 they have the most power from an n/a engine, easy to mod without blowing it up and one of the best handeling available. The Type-R Civic is known as the "1.6 king". Oh and it's not even what you would considered modified.

Now that car has to do me for a while as i'm off to Oz in January, I will be purchasing a 2.2 Litre Honda Prelude upon my return. Will I have your respect then (well until I begin modding it)?

Pub07 wrote:

IF YOU MODIFY A PIECE OF SH1TE IT IS STILL A PIECE OF SH1TE. I get great satisfaction driving by these tools in my (unmoddified) beast of a machine knowing as they look on that their cars are a total joke and that them being scangers precludes them from ever owning a serious set of wheels.

What do you drive?

Mairt wrote:

Then you turn it into a piece of sh*te, simple.

Btw, just finished training tonight and got a phone call. A neighbour's dog was knocked down and killed by a fvck a$$ boy racer in a poxy Civic, so what you might ask...

My mother ran over a cat once in her Renault Magane. Even I did that coming out from the alley at the back of my house. Dog ran out saw me coming, and frose. I was on gravel so the car couldn't stop quick enough. Dog was ok btw but had a limp for a while.

Another thing. If Nissan, Fiat, Toyota etc spend million's on research and development on a particular model, you think Anto or Jacinta can do a better and safer job with a few hundred Euro?..

If there's sufficiant money spent on brakes & suspention yes. I would have thought that's common knowlege. Also please change a "few hundred" to "few thousand".

Car modificaions, ie engine remapping, load exhausts, non-standard size wheels and tires etc should be illegal. I also believe a car radio should only be allowed play to a standard Db level, anything after which should be deemed to make the car unsafe to drive and so an illegal Mod.

Why exactly? For example, a Golf TDI has 110bhp the TDI has 130bhp. The difference? A remapped chip and you pay oodles for it off a dealer, if you diy it though the cost plummets. I'm not sure what you mean by non standard size wheels, like alloys? Just an FYI, I've never seen a car that's 'unsafe' because of a few mods. More likely the driver is unsafe, e.g poweing up to 140mph on the motorway or some dingy country road. Driver error is at fault, and don't think for a second you need a modded car to drive fast in unsafe areas.

layke · 25-07-2007 11:30AM

furtzy wrote:

Agree totally. These muppets think that adding bigger wheels and a K&N air filter you gain 10's of bhp......they are absolute twats.

We should look at the New Zealand model where only modifications declared and agreed by qualified engineers are allowed....any else and you're off the road

Have a look here

http://www.aa.co.nz/motoring/practicalmotoringtips/Pages/Vehiclemodifications.aspx

I have a lot of mates from NZ. They say there are modded cars everywhere over there. Also they don't require insurance over there either to be on the road. ALSO again, they have huge 5L engines in all their cars. Good system thye have there.

furtzy · 25-07-2007 11:53AM

It seems its the silly loud exhausts that people have the main problem with. Also the tendancy to red line through every gear so people can hear their loud exhausts....don't get it myself do they have some sort of complex so as to need this attention?

Do they not realise that people are laughing at them or do they think they're thinking "Wow how cool are they....wish I had a racing car like them"

layke · 25-07-2007 11:58AM

Agreed, but as i've said that's down to the driver not the car. You have to rev an exhaust for it to scream so to speak. Hondas are particularly bad for this as all the power kicks in after 4000k.

furtzy · 25-07-2007 12:13PM

But why do you need the loud exhaust? The reason they have them is to be heard. Its not for performance.....sticking on a 6" exhaust is going to do nothing for performance. Whats a massive rear spolier going to do for a front wheel drive car....they're idiots and anyone with any car knowledge is laughing at them.

Every day I see people in standard cars driving like twats but its the "notice me" boy racer with his wannabe gangsta music and loud exhaust that gets remembered.

Its a fact that the vast majority of people think they are twats and its their own fault. Its by their own actions that this is the case

Terry · 25-07-2007 12:34PM

I had a car once.
It got me from A to B and back again.
That was pretty much all I needed it to do.

layke · 25-07-2007 12:40PM

I buy an exhaust for the performance it gives the noise is a side effect. That said I love the sound of an engine purring away. I agree some cars look tacky when overly done, but in fairness I think were pretty good in Ireland for not adding too much to our cars, just look at the US and compare. Also while i'd agree a large spoiler is not everyone's taste some like it.

Every day I see people in standard cars driving like twats but its the "notice me" boy racer with his wannabe gangsta music and loud exhaust that gets remembered.

That's one of the better comments iv'e read here. Everyone des it, just the modded car owners get noticed more. It's true, but it reinforces the fact that they are a much easier target.

Its a fact that the vast majority of people think they are twats and its their own fault. Its by their own actions that this is the case

All of us, or those who Rev their engines and hit corners at 70?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 25-07-2007 01:27PM

layke wrote:

I buy an exhaust for the performance it gives the noise is a side effect.

From my understanding of it these exhausts give minimal if any performance increase. And if they do, its another reason why your insurance should be loaded.

And whats up with having to take exhausts off to get through the NCT and bang them back on afterwards?... And dont' say that doesn't happen, it does.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 25-07-2007 01:29PM

Can't find the post to qoute from it.

But I love putting these idiots back in the box when they put it up to me at the lights, and I'm driving just two modest car's.

furtzy · 25-07-2007 01:32PM

layke wrote:

I buy an exhaust for the performance it gives the noise is a side effect. That said I love the sound of an engine purring away.

All of us, or those who Rev their engines and hit corners at 70?

Fair enough if you like the sound of an engine but nobody else needs to hear it. Thats what people find annoying. If I decided to go around and around a town all night with a frigging jack hammer people would think I was an idiot so the same applies with the "cruisers" who do this night after night in a lot of towns across the country.

I don't know if you are the typical boy racer with the rear spoiler, bonnet scoop without the turbo etc etc or you are a car enthuasiast who generally enjoys their car without inflicting it on others with the loud exhaust but you have to acknowledge that most people find the boy racers, or whatever you want to call them, as annoying idiots.

Anyone else driven fvcking demented...

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