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Why do the British Media constantly refer to Irish people as british!

  • 06-07-2007 02:12PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭


    This is just something that annoys me about the British media. I just read a link on the BBC website here, and it says "She also said it had been "a hell of an achievement" to keep the cast of all the Potter films British.".

    Now the only reason this annoys me is because I have seen numerous article that the new cast member is Irish as seen here

    Now I would like to think that J.K Rowling just forgot about this but I doubt it very much considering she supposedly helped cast her. This has been done many times in the past especially regarding music. Anyone else annoyed by it, or am I just imagining these things.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    They own us.

    What's your problem?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    They own us.

    I must have missed the memo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Shiva


    Richard Harris was in the first couple too, wasn't he ?

    Maybe if we offer to give them Bono they'll stop trying to steal the rest of 'em ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭xabi


    Shiva wrote:
    Maybe if we offer to give them Bono they'll stop trying to steal the rest of 'em ?

    Cant we just give Bono to the Brits, maybe Ryan Tubridy and Martin King also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Shiva


    Oh...and Gerry Ryan. We dont need him either.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 668 ✭✭✭karen3212


    I know what you mean and I have been peeved by that once or twice, but the thing is though, Ireland is one of the British Isles. So perhaps in some way they may think that is what they are saying, but I doubt it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Shiva


    karen3212 wrote:
    I know what you mean and I have been peeved by that once or twice, but the thing is though, Ireland is one of the British Isles. So perhaps in some way they may think that is what they are saying, but I doubt it.

    Actually....you may be on to something there.

    So, I have an idea - Lets invade.
    We'll take over, change the name to the Irish Isles, and steal all their celebrities.

    But we'll have to give Jade Goody to the Germans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Dancor


    They have already taken Bono and Bob Geldolf, Bono was added to a list of the ''100 Greatest brits'' They are just glory seekers and would claim anyone once they were doing well, Movies music sport etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Binomate


    Rule Britannia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Reminds me of the few times when Eddie Irvine was successful in formula 1, he was British all of a sudden. When he was sh1te he was Irish again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    dancor wrote:
    They have already taken Bono and Bob Geldolf, Bono was added to a list of the ''100 Greatest brits'' They are just glory seekers and would claim anyone once they were doing well, Movies music sport etc.

    I just looked at that list..

    Diana princess of wales is rated above Charles Darwin and William Shakespeare.. :confused:

    Can someone tell me what she did that was so great? I missed it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Orange69 wrote:
    Can someone tell me what she did that was so great? I missed it...
    Lots of people cried when she died.

    Also, she did a great service to British florists and card-makers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Sure yesterday on RTE an American was being interviewed and said Britain when talking of Ireland, its catching.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Well, during the 6 nations, while reporting from inside Croker, the BBc's John Inverdale reffered to England as "The Mainland", as if we were some sort of off-shore territory of some big important place.

    </rant>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    obl wrote:
    Well, during the 6 nations, while reporting from inside Croker, the BBc's John Inverdale reffered to England as "The Mainland", as if we were some sort of off-shore territory of some big important place.

    </rant>
    :rolleyes:

    He didn't refer to England as the mainland, he was referring to the island of Great Britain, incorporating England, Wales and Scotland.

    He was right too, it's the biggest island in the archipelago.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Ah yes, here is me on the way to the match.
    http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.image?id=2155
    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭eve


    If they are mentioning us for a good reason, we are british. If it's a bad reason, we're Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Shiva wrote:
    So, I have an idea - Lets invade.

    Heh, we'd last aprrox. 12 minutes. I hate it too when Irish people are referred to as Brits. I read in Total Film they referred to Cillian Murphy as British. Eddie Irvine "was" British though that changed in the British newspapers:

    If he won / done good:
    British driver Irvine does good in race

    If he lost / done shíte:
    Irish driver Irvine does crap in race


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    most of Dublin seems to call soccer 'football'

    It is football dammit!

    Mike.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Sure what else would it be boyo?
    Saying ' Want to go play some soccer?' just sounds wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Stephen wrote:
    Reminds me of the few times when Eddie Irvine was successful in formula 1, he was British all of a sudden. When he was sh1te he was Irish again.

    Going back further, the same thing happened in the 80s with Barry McGuigan. When he was boxing well he was 'GB' on BBC league tables, then when his career started to fade, he was 'NI' He's not even from the 6 counties


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 338 ✭✭Tony Danza


    Because nobody likes British people and everybody likes Irish people? I'd say really it's just because they are c*nts!

    Remember this a while ago, fair play to Samuel!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,974 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Duggy747 wrote:
    Heh, we'd last aprrox. 12 minutes. I hate it too when Irish people are referred to as Brits. I read in Total Film they referred to Cillian Murphy as British. Eddie Irvine "was" British though that changed in the British newspapers:

    If he won / done good:
    British driver Irvine does good in race

    If he lost / done shíte:
    Irish driver Irvine does crap in race

    I think you'll find that the shift with Eddie Irvine happened when Loyalist paramilitaries threatened to murder his parents for having the Irish flag flown. Prior to his presence on the podium he was officially referred to as Irish because his racing license was Irish. He claimed that this was because it was cheaper to obtain when he started racing.

    Once he started making the podium there was a threat to his family and the FIA made the decision that, as Northern Ireland is officially part of the UK, the Union Flag would be flown and GSTQ played.

    Strictly speaking "British" and "Great Britain" are geographical terms and not a political one and Ireland is part of Britain, as is Brittany.

    The country you refer to is most likely the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    Finally, I don't think Eddie shared your concerns about what his nationality was defined as. He requested that a green shamrock on a white background and the Londonderry Air be played for an anthem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,974 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    daveirl wrote:
    This post has been deleted.

    "Soccer" is a shortened form of association football. I'd say you could argue the same thing about simply calling it "football".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    Why do the British Media constantly refer to Irish people as british!

    what r u on about....the british media aren't "constantantly" refer to the irish as british

    and if they did, so what its probably just a simple mistake on they're part...its not like they're saying to themselves.."oh lets p*ss off the paddies today"....anyway i bet it doesn't stop you from watching BBC, ITV, SKY etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    hey this works both ways,
    some clown in the daily mirror once claimed west life were british:mad:
    anything that is any way good that comes from england is automatically noted as british but when its bad its defo the english!! and another thing when scotland or wales win something, ladies curling gold? i think, scots go crazy claiming that back for the scots. the only reason i see for calling things british if they all go together for something like eurovision;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    I remember hearing somewhere that the term Britain came from a French/Belgian Celtic tribe called the Pritani (from which "Britain" is derived) who moved to the British Isle and Ireland, and that these then virtually disappeared in England with future invasions but remained in the other "Celtic" areas, technically making the Irish truer "Britons" than the English.

    Don't know how true it is cos another time I heard that there never was a Celtic invasion of Ireland and it was instead the Celtic art and technology being adopted by indigenous Irish.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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