I like transexual girls, but im a bit confused

LegacyUser · 27-06-2007 08:42PM #1

Ok so I wouldnt consider myself gay, I dont have an interest in men, Im 17. But I really like transexual girls, really femenine girls with penises. I look up that sort of porn a lot. Anoyone else like this ? does it make me gay or what ?

Also anyone know where i can meet these sort of women. Im aware its probably an embarrasing secret for most but im sure theres somewhere to meet women like this

PhantomBeaker · 28-06-2007 02:26PM

Yeah... there are a good few guys like that. They don't consider themselves gay but do like trans girls.

Trans people might call them TFs for Trans-Fanciers or Trans-Fans (or less polite meanings for F) or Chasers. The way I find most guys describe themselves is as "Admirers", although some other people use that term for non-sexual purposes.

You're definitely not alone though, it seems there are a good many of you out there.

I'll leave it to someone else to say where to find them, although I've seen a number of personals on gaire. After that, I haven't the faintest.

Best of luck,
Aoife

azezil · 28-06-2007 03:05PM

This may be of some use to you

Anthony_1980 · 30-06-2007 11:56PM

doesnt make u gay , i think its just a kinky thing , im a 100 % straight man and wouldnt go as far as saying i like trannies , but the ones who look very very feminem theres just something kinky about that or some reason , ive always been open minded about sex and trying anything with a woman , and im only into women

PhantomBeaker · 01-07-2007 11:49PM

Now, I apologise if I'm stirring things slightly, but I have to say, I've been curious about this for a long time...

How come so many guys who like the trannycock say "But I'm not gay" and really press the point on this? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm glad that they're not, because then there's a slim chance that you might be seen as a girl and not as some sexual curiosity to be fetishised, or just as a messed up guy... but, I'm always amazed at how often people find the need to prefix everything with that.

I mean, why not just say "Hi, I'm <insert name here>, and I like the girlcock." and not have every second sentence be some rehash of "I'm really, really straight! No really, totally straight! I'm not gay!", which generally just reminds me of one of the scenes from the Local Shop (tm) in the League of Gentlemen: "We didn't burn him!"

Like I said, I'm not trying to stir or anything, I'm just genuinely curious.

Aoife

Rev Hellfire · 02-07-2007 07:41AM

I must say I'm equally curious. The very fact that they are looking for someone with a 'cock' puts squarely in the area of male looking for male.

As for the OP I would say that in my opinion that it means you certainly have inclination to homosexual behaviour since its males you're looking for.

BuffyBot · 02-07-2007 08:54AM

I think your seeing a sexuality as a black/white option. It's more a sliding scale and an and/or.

Louisevb · 02-07-2007 10:47AM

As the webmistress of the above linked Tranniehaven.com, I find all your remarks quite normal.
I am a transexual woman on hormones, living and working 24/7 m2f
Where I think there is a difficulty, is in the way Irish men behave towards a TS. Many want to " experiment" and they treat me as such. I find this very insulting, as I am a human being first, by accident I happen to be TS.
Hopefully as people become more used and accepting of the transexual then attitudes will change. Currently I find Irish men in particular, to be unsure of what they want, to be unable to meet in public, and to think of the TS in terms of perverted sex.
Until such times as Irish men lighten up and treat me as the female I am, I will not be seeing anyone to "experiment"

Rev Hellfire · 02-07-2007 10:57AM

Louisevb wrote:

As the webmistress of the above linked Tranniehaven.com, I find all your remarks quite normal.
I am a transexual woman on hormones, living and working 24/7 m2f
Where I think there is a difficulty, is in the way Irish men behave towards a TS. Many want to " experiment" and they treat me as such. I find this very insulting, as I am a human being first, by accident I happen to be TS.
Hopefully as people become more used and accepting of the transexual then attitudes will change. Currently I find Irish men in particular, to be unsure of what they want, to be unable to meet in public, and to think of the TS in terms of perverted sex.
Until such times as Irish men lighten up and treat me as the female I am, I will not be seeing anyone to "experiment"

That my friend is a whole different story.

Here the OP is not looking for a woman (or even a man who thinks he's a woman), rather he's looking for a man who happens to have some of the dominate characteristics of a woman but and here's the rub is still identifiably male. Its that last clause which makes me say its a homosexual fantasy with a fetish aspect to it.

Anthony_1980 · 02-07-2007 08:12PM

when i said there was something kinky i didnt mean i like looking at cock

as soon as u see cock u turn away and its gross and turns u right off etc

just amazed at how woman like some people can be its weird

Boston · 02-07-2007 08:16PM

A penis is a penis mate, it's no more gross the anything else.

Anthony_1980 · 02-07-2007 08:25PM

yes but thats not what im into

never had homophobic tendancies ok

ive 2 gay mates and id never swing the other way doesnt appeal to me at all

plus the ts its just how woman like people can be , id never want to meet 1

im straight and just always been into trying diff things with women

im simply just giveing my opinion , doesnt mean ur gay unless u want to be shagged by one or be with one

neither applies to me

Rev Hellfire · 02-07-2007 09:21PM

Anthony_1980 wrote:

yes but thats not what im into

never had homophobic tendancies ok

ive 2 gay mates and id never swing the other way doesnt appeal to me at all

plus the ts its just how woman like people can be , id never want to meet 1

im straight and just always been into trying diff things with women

im simply just giveing my opinion , doesnt mean ur gay unless u want to be shagged by one or be with one

neither applies to me

I kind of confused here, unless you're the original poster (which I'm assuming you're not) then no one has said anything to imply you "like looking at cock".
The topic refers to pre-op trans and the OP's kink for 'women' with additional dangly bits.

Anthony_1980 · 02-07-2007 09:43PM

i know i was just saying that if u like them doesnt automatically mean u gay thats the point i was saying

if u saying u want a ts to shag or shag u or whatever tickles peoples fancy then u gay

Karl Hungus · 02-07-2007 09:50PM

Anthony_1980 wrote:

i know i was just saying that if u like them doesnt automatically mean u gay thats the point i was saying

if u saying u want a ts to shag or shag u or whatever tickles peoples fancy then u gay

Wow. Grammar is screaming in agony right now.

Louisevb · 03-07-2007 07:32PM

Guys labels labels
I'm m2f transexual...and see myself as straight female, and into guys, but I can also be with a women as long as there is a mental connection... so am I bisexual or a lesbian?
If I was Filippino, I'd see myself as gay, because that's the way it is in their culture..
Forget the labels... just take the product

MojoMaker · 03-07-2007 07:41PM

Louise, I hope this question doesn't offend in any way, have you had gender reassignment surgery or are you just getting into the new role gradually?

Ok, basically, do have an innie or an outie?

Sorry, I'm pretty lost with this stuff...and have not met someone who has had this, or going to...

Boston · 03-07-2007 08:41PM

The terms you're looking for are pre-op and post-op.

aidan24326 · 04-07-2007 05:09PM

I honestly think guys who are overly quick to drop in the 'but I'm not gay I'm 100% straight really etc.' are clearly on the defensive and either have some gay tendencies or are just very uncomfortable with the idea.

To me nobody is 100% anything, the person who said it's on a sliding scale is pretty much spot on. I would consider myself straight but wouldn't bother emphasising the 100% bit.

To the OP I would say this is nothing to worry about. You like what you like. Big deal if you're into transgender. It doesn't mean you're necessarily gay. I just wouldn't be expecting to do much about it unless you're comfortable with the idea of dating such a person, as louise said a ts person doesn't want to be a guinea pig for you or anybody else. If it's just a sexual fetish then maybe you need a holiday in Thailand or something.

Anthony_1980 wrote:

i know i was just saying that if u like them doesnt automatically mean u gay thats the point i was saying

if u saying u want a ts to shag or shag u or whatever tickles peoples fancy then u gay

Thanks for that wonderful insight Anthony.

Anthony_1980 · 04-07-2007 05:32PM

its not a sexual reason why i like em

just weird at how woman like a man can be

i wouldnt **** at it or want to be with a ts , doesnt turn me on at all its more a observation thats all

Louisevb · 04-07-2007 10:40PM

That picture is of a good friend of mine...Probably one of the classiest girls in town. Like myself she is Ts pre op. We are both into guys, because we see ourselves as female.
What any guy sees is a woman... nothing more... nothing less.
The problem arises when the prospect of a relationship forms, not with either of us but with the guys... What will my mates think? What will my family think? What will the people at work think?
The above is the thinking process of the average Irish guy.
Thinking outside the box ( if you will forgive the expression) doesn't enter the average guys head.. Look at the person, look at the personality, treat them with courtesy and respect. Forget what the priest told you, forget what your mam told you.... go with the flow. We are human beings, and we feel like everyone else. Being TS is not a lifestyle choice, it's a treatable clinical condition.. all we have done is to accept it and face up to it, so that we may lead a happy life. end of rant

Nevyn · 05-07-2007 04:22AM

Anthony_1980 wrote:

its not a sexual reason why i like em

just weird at how woman like a man can be

i wouldnt **** at it or want to be with a ts , doesnt turn me on at all its more a observation thats all

That's nice that you know what does and not turn you on but y'know what
whoop dee doo this thread is not about you.

Just beacuse it is not your things and you can't understand how it could be your thing then that does not mean it is not for anyone else or that them finding it a turn on is wrong.

Hmm_Messiah · 05-07-2007 10:39AM

Louisevb wrote:

What any guy sees is a woman... nothing more... nothing less.
The problem arises when the prospect of a relationship forms, not with either of us but with the guys... What will my mates think? What will my family think? What will the people at work think?
The above is the thinking process of the average Irish guy.
Thinking outside the box ( if you will forgive the expression) doesn't enter the average guys head.. Look at the person, look at the personality, treat them with courtesy and respect. Forget what the priest told you, forget what your mam told you.... go with the flow. We are human beings, and we feel like everyone else. Being TS is not a lifestyle choice, it's a treatable clinical condition.. all we have done is to accept it and face up to it, so that we may lead a happy life. end of rant

Louisevb, that wasn't a rant

I liked the thinking outside th "box" bit.
But I am not sure its true that what any guy sees is a woman nothing more/ less.... a small example would be hands which often are clearly masculine and so suddenly more/less than a woman is seen.

Personally I don't think I'd have any problem with family/friends etc if seeing a post-op m2f(btw that too is a label - they tend to be convenient thats why people use them) . I'd only have difficult with...I dunno..... seeing a woman who also had male bits....I like women, I like men....just not in the same person. Not only the physicality but I think my mind would keep triggering questions or conflicts.

I think its a brave thing to go so far in indentifying with what you understand as your true gender. I would almost envy your commitment and strength if its brought you happiness and contentment. But I think the emphasis should e taken off the sexaul/physical, what peopel would find difficult I think is simply the difference. My partner is non-irish, considerably younger, and erm a guy. The being with a guy bit is probably the least difficult bit (in that there are any difficulties)

Some day hopefully what you have experienced will be seen as corrective rather than anyway deviant or wrong. But being a small minority in a world that sturggles with diversity, there will always be challenges.

Louisevb · 05-07-2007 01:34PM

Hmm_Messiah
Thanks for that.
The thing about the hands, is that the hormones, will change that, over a short time maybe three months and they will also feminise facial skin etc. Eventually some of us will go for full surgery, as in a pre op state on hormones we are neither male or female...
What people in general don't realise is that if you have a mental connection with someone, then the sexual bit will come after, whether that someone is male or female...subject of course to being able to break the taboos, of religion, family and social pressures etc.
I'm living 24/7 and coming up against having to " educate" people on gender issues in relation to being TS. When I transitioned I did not anticipate I'd have to start overcoming other people's prejudices and misconceptions, but sadly that seems to be the case and will be an ongoing work in progress.

Nevyn · 05-07-2007 01:55PM

I would be of the opinion that it is more the the physical attributes that a person is attracted to in another person and when you are interested in them then you will want to please and pleasure them and see them in orgasmic after glow and that can and does transcend what you are willing to do to them and for them never mind what physical parts they have or don't have.

Anthony_1980 · 05-07-2007 06:07PM

another thing besides the hands is an adams apple u cant get rid off and deep voice

Nevyn · 05-07-2007 06:14PM

Both can be altered via surgery and the voice can also be altered with voice coaching/training.

Anthony_1980 · 05-07-2007 08:21PM

ud never see ts like u see on film in dub

always just a man with a wig

Rev Hellfire · 05-07-2007 08:37PM

Anthony_1980 wrote:

always just a man with a wig

I guess its like anything in life, some people will pull of a better impression of a woman than others.

Nevyn · 05-07-2007 09:46PM

There is a good chance Anthony_1980 that you have passed by m2f people on the street and never noticed or for a second considered that their genetics are XY.

Oh any by the way please use the keyboard and not textspeak and it is hard for those who have dyslexia.

Morrigan · 06-07-2007 04:04PM

Louisevb wrote:

We are both into guys, because we see ourselves as female.

I find this point of view interesting. It is possible to be into guys, and not see yourself as female, right?

Also, I noticed the use of the term "transgender", seemlying interchanged with "transsexual", but in my experience is very different from "transsexual". Gender is to do with the mind, sexual to do with the body. They are not always mutually inclusive.

I like transexual girls, but im a bit confused

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