Gypsies stealing shopping from cars... (And other anti social behaveour)

AFAIK, a large art of their culture (that no one seems to talk about), is that they are smarter than the non-gypsies. This originates from the historical fact that during the midde ages and so on, they were a good deal more travelled than the average peasant or shopkeeper, and so actually could run rings around them.

When that gypsy woman was grinning at you Karl, she was thinking haha, this poor dumb schmuck, I wonder will he manage to wipe the drool off his gaping mouth before I stroll out of here. Thats what they assume about every non-gypsy, and is really the only way you could justify a culture like theirs even existing.

Of course nowadays we're living in the information age, so the reverse is true. Its the gypsies who have become the thicko peasants and most of the middle class in the countries they visit who are fairly appalled by their primate-like antics.

Here are more of their beliefs:

• the existence of Del (God)
• the existence of beng (Satan)
• the existence of bibaxt (bad luck) and of muló (supernatural spirits or ghosts).
• he power of good luck charms, amulets and talismans
• the power of curses
• the power of healing rituals
• Marimé is a state of impurity brought on a person by the violation of a purity taboo. It also means a "sentence of expulsion imposed for violation of purity rules or any behavior disruptive to the Roma community." Some Roma consider the part of a woman's body below the waist to be dirty or polluted, because it is associated with menstruation. 1 In many tribes, women wear long skirts, the bottoms of which must not touch a man other than her husband.
• A pregnant woman is considered unclean. She must not give birth in the family home because it would then become impure. Sometimes knots are ritually untied as the birth approaches. This is believed to assure that the umbilical cord will not be tangled. After birth, anything that the new mother touches is later destroyed. This quarantine continues at least until the baptism of the baby.
• Newborns are baptized, usually in running water, when they are a few weeks old. Often, the infant is massaged with oil; this is believed to make it strong.
• A Roma typically has three names. The first is known only by the mother; it is given at the time of birth. Its purpose is to confuse evil spirits by keeping the real name of the child from them. The second name is conferred at the time of baptism, and is the commonly used name within the tribe. A third, different name may be given when the child is re-baptized in a Christian church. It has little importance, except when dealing with non-Roma.
• In the past, people were typically married between the ages of 9 to 14. This tradition has changed in many tribes due to the influence of the surrounding culture. Pre-marital sex is very strongly forbidden. Marriages to outsiders are heavily discouraged. The wedding ceremony is usually simple. In some tribes, the bride and groom join hands in front of the chief or an elder and promise to be true to each other. In ancient times, they used be married by jumping over a broomstick in the presence of their families.
• When a person dies, relatives and friends gather around and ask for forgiveness for any bad deeds that they have done to that person. They are concerned that if such grievances are not settled, then the dead person might come back as an evil spirit and cause trouble. In the past, the widow might commit suicide when her husband died so that she could accompany him during the afterlife. Sometimes, the deceased's nostrils are plugged with wax so that evil spirits cannot enter and occupy the body. Clothing, tools, eating utensils, jewelry, and money may be placed in the coffin in order to help the deceased in the next world. The deceased's possessions are burned, broken or sold to non-Roma.
• They believe that a person can be reincarnated as another human or animal. Alternatively, they might appear as a muló or "living dead", seeking revenge on anyone who harmed him during his life on earth.
• Many Roma rules of behavior relate to the use of water. They normally wash in running water, as in a shower. Baths are not used. Women's and men's clothes are washed separately, because of the impurities of a woman's body. Clothes of a pregnant or menstruating woman are washed furthest downstream from the camp, to avoid contamination.
• Women must not expose their legs. They wear long, multi-colored skirts.
• Out of respect for the importance of the horse in assuring Roma mobility, the eating of horse meat is prohibited in some tribes.
• Many Roma women, called drabardi practice fortune telling. But fortunes are only read for non-Romas.
• Other women are are called drabarni or drabengi and practice natural healing techniques.

biko wrote:

Just have to hope karma actually works.
Sometimes karma needs a little push.

a little push by a very big man followed by the scumbag being repeatedly kicked by said big man

Karma does work .... they are scumbags ... people look at them and think what a f*cking scummer i hope some guy kicks the s*it outta him and continues to think so as long as they continue to be scumbags ...

Wossack wrote:

I think it was a subtle hint for me to answer the door to the next one looking for money/steal stuff from the porch, wearing a sheet over my head like a ghost, and rasping 'unclean...UNCLEAN!!' at her

Legend! Seriously though, you do kind of hit the point I was trying to make, if you want to deal with something, you need to understand it first. Their behaviour seems to be completely nutso until you understand what exactly makes them behave like that. Once you know why, its not so baffling, and you can make a plan what to do about it.

Maybe we should start making used maxipad amulets or something, like those bottles of water people leave in their gardens to keep out dogs...

Karl Hungus wrote:

Ok, vent time...

So there I was, walking back from town, I was passing a house where I saw something quite maddening. A middle aged woman was being hassled in her drive way by a gypsy woman, and I saw two kids sneak up to her car (The boot was open, facing the street, and had a lot of shopping bags in it) and grab some of the bags.

I just shouted "Hey!" at the kids, and they bolted up the street towards town. The woman who was being distracted looked at me, and I said to her "They're stealing your shopping!" and she darted round to the back of her car and slammed the boot, then ran back to her house and slammed her front door.

The wierdest thing then was the fact that the gypsy woman just walked off so calmly, and as she passed me, gave me this huge grin as if to say "What are you going to do about it?" and headed up to where her kids were waiting further up the street.

Feckin' hell tbh... I was rather shocked.

Sweet Jesus. If thats real, and I've little doubt it is I'm going to be extra careful with those fvckers.

jaysus if i caught one of them tryin to steal my shoppin i'd kick the ****e outa them , man or woman