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Orange69 · 15-06-2007 01:51PM

They should hit the drink drivers where it hurts, their car should be confiscated and sold at auction and then maybe another 5k fine on top of that for good measure..

I cant believe people still do this..

_feedback_ · 15-06-2007 01:53PM

invincibleirish wrote:

of course im going to get flamed but i say it anyway: all this self righteous pontificating about what a scumbag he is, people wishing he crashed into a wall etc.?!!,the guy made a mistake,drink drivers are not automatically evil people,lots of people have drink and driven,it doesnt matter whether its legal or not, remember the two will do campaign? chances are mommy daddy have drink and driven,so save it!!

Mommy & Daddy lived in a very different Ireland compared to most of us.

I've never driven after taking any drink. If I'm at home and I have a bottle of beer, I will not drive. Next morning after a night out, I will not drive.

Now I'm not saying that I'm fantasic and should be somebody who everyone else should model themselves on. What I am saying is that I believe that most of the people who replied with strong views on this thread, probably do have a similar way of thinking to me regarding the issue of drink driving.

Maybe you haven't been affected by the aftermath of a road accident, but really, saying that the guy just made a mistake is ridiculous.

In my opinion, any muppet that drinks and drives should have their license taken from them and get a jail sentence.

The government are somewhat to blame though, they need to get their act together and provide proper public transport, especially in rural areas , where a large proportion of the drinking and driving takes place.

invincibleirish · 15-06-2007 01:57PM

im in agreement with windwalker,the guy in question is and will be dealt with by the law,my point though is the puritanical spirit in which people are wishing he is executed,flogged and that he crashes into a wall.how is the original poster supposed to react when he sees this being said about his friend?its completly over the top and the kind of reaction i doubt they would give if these people had their own friends and family caught for the same offence,all im saying is its too easy to judge and say stupid things...

invincibleirish · 15-06-2007 02:03PM

elviscostello wrote:

Mommy & Daddy lived in a very different Ireland compared to most of us.

i dont buy this,the way this thread has gone its been suggested that if you drink and drive then you should be executed or flogged,if mommy and daddy have drunk and drove then why shouldnt they be subject to the suggested punishments?it doesnt matter if it was in 1977 or last week,the way certain posters have reacted it doesnt matter, all i say is have a bit of cop on.if my friend was caught drink driving, yes i would be disappointed in them,yes i would probably scold them,but if some strangers started saying he deserves to be executed etc. i would certainly react accordingly

_feedback_ · 15-06-2007 02:14PM

invincibleirish wrote:

elviscostello wrote:

Mommy & Daddy lived in a very different Ireland compared to most of us.

i dont buy this,the way this thread has gone its been suggested that if you drink and drive then you should be executed or flogged,if mommy and daddy have drunk and drove then why shouldnt they be subject to the suggested punishments?it doesnt matter if it was in 1977 or last week

There was a thread in Motors recently (can't be arsed looking for it

) a couple of people mentioned how their parents started driving. My own Dad was 16, had no license & no idea how to drive. His employer gave him a van and sent him off to figure out how to deliver groceries all round the area.
That was a very different Ireland. I'm sure he probably did drink and drive , but would never dream of it now because of increased awareness over the past number of years.

In short: There was drink. Cars came along. People drank and people drove these new things with wheels. It was never pin-pointed as a major problem.

LundiMardi · 15-06-2007 02:15PM

invincibleirish wrote:

i dont buy this,the way this thread has gone its been suggested that if you drink and drive then you should be executed or flogged,if mommy and daddy have drunk and drove then why shouldnt they be subject to the suggested punishments?it doesnt matter if it was in 1977 or last week,the way certain posters have reacted it doesnt matter, all i say is have a bit of cop on.if my friend was caught drink driving, yes i would be disappointed in them,yes i would probably scold them,but if some strangers started saying he deserves to be executed etc. i would certainly react accordingly

some things need to be taken with a pinch of salt... If you think people are being serious when they say that drink drivers should be executed then you have issues.

Wing Walker · 15-06-2007 02:19PM

invincibleirish wrote:

its completly over the top and the kind of reaction i doubt they would give if these people had their own friends and family caught for the same offence,all im saying is its too easy to judge and say stupid things...

Really?

If that member of my family was finally caught, I would actually be happy. Strange reaction you might think, but he deserves nothing less. It seems that nothing I or anyone else says to him matters. So whether it's the cops or some wall that puts him off the road, at least he won't be a danger to others any more.

Perhaps saying he should be "executed" or the like is a bit excessive but that's people's reaction to it. At least it's not the old "sure it'll be grand, I only have to drive down the road" mentality we had in this country for years.

Godforbid, but maybe you'll have a different view should anything happen to a member of your family at the hands of some drunken driver.

invincibleirish · 15-06-2007 02:29PM

point taken wing walker!

Q_Ball · 15-06-2007 03:20PM

elviscostello wrote:

Mommy & Daddy lived in a very different Ireland compared to most of us.

I dont think it was meant as an excuse, more an observation of older peoples mentality towards drink driving.

I wouldnt wish anyone smashing into a wall but strict sentences i'm all for

FunkZ · 15-06-2007 03:25PM

ats wrote:

all for public flogging myself in these situations, there's a nice big spike in O'COnnell street tie him to it and every passed by gets one last of the whip at him. by lunch time i guess he'd learn his lesson a hell of a lot quicker than taking his license away.

Ha, and at least the government will get the 3 million euro's worth out of The Spire!

_feedback_ · 15-06-2007 03:41PM

Q_Ball wrote:

I dont think it was meant as an excuse, more an observation of older peoples mentality towards drink driving.

I wouldnt wish anyone smashing into a wall but strict sentences i'm all for

Not sure if I get what ya mean 100% , as in older people nowadays drink driving?! If that's what you mean you'd definately be right. Leads to my previous point re rural drink driving too .....

looking at my previous post again:

elviscostello wrote:

There was a thread in Motors recently (can't be arsed looking for it ) a couple of people mentioned how their parents started driving. My own Dad was 16, had no license & no idea how to drive. His employer gave him a van and sent him off to figure out how to deliver groceries all round the area.
That was a very different Ireland. I'm sure he probably did drink and drive , but would never dream of it now because of increased awareness over the past number of years.

It mightn't actually be so different nowadays..... the provisional system??!

Q_Ball · 15-06-2007 04:09PM

elviscostello wrote:

Not sure if I get what ya mean 100% , as in older people nowadays drink driving?! If that's what you mean you'd definately be right. Leads to my previous point re rural drink driving too .....

Yup. Older people (not gonna generalize, but I'm judging this on personal experience) seem to think that having a pint or two (or 2+) and driving home is acceptable. Its the "I've always done it, I can handle the drink and am a great driver" attitude. Whereas if I have even half a bottle of beer i wont get behind the wheel. I'd say its more generational than rural/urban tho.

But I understand why its so prevalent in rural areas. There needs to be a viable, sustainable alternative for people to go to and fro, campaigns to promote designated drivers (like that free coke campaign) and strict minimum sentencing for drink drivers who are caught.

I've been told there is a judge currently serving in court who is an alcoholic. They recently handed down a €250 fine to a man who was in court for the fourth time for drink driving. This comes from someone who was actually sitting in the court at the time.

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